Cost of Network of Charging Stations v Electrified Highway S

[Bret Cahill]

The 100% increase in mpg from going hybrid-electric isn't going to
make up for a 700% increase in fuel costs.

The only way to maintain any semblance of a lifestyle is to power
hybrid electric off the grid as much as possible and just use fuel
where absolutely necessary.

There are two choices, either build a network of charging stations or
electrify highways.

When battery costs are added in the charging station option would cost
motorists three times more/mile than coming straight off the roadbed.

To justify these battery costs then the cost/mile of all the charging
stations would need to be much lower than the cost/mile of an
electrified highway system.


Bret Cahill

 

[Les Cargill]

Bret Cahill wrote:

The 100% increase in mpg from going hybrid-electric isn't going to
make up for a 700% increase in fuel costs.

The only way to maintain any semblance of a lifestyle is to power
hybrid electric off the grid as much as possible and just use fuel
where absolutely necessary.

There are two choices, either build a network of charging stations or
electrify highways.

When battery costs are added in the charging station option would cost
motorists three times more/mile than coming straight off the roadbed.

To justify these battery costs then the cost/mile of all the charging
stations would need to be much lower than the cost/mile of an
electrified highway system.


Bret Cahill

Who killed the electric car?

The Second Law of Thermodynamics, that's who.

--
Les Cargill

 

[Eeyore]

Bret Cahill wrote:

The 100% increase in mpg from going hybrid-electric isn't going to
make up for a 700% increase in fuel costs.

What drivel are you talking now ?

All the USA has to do is to get used to 1.4 - 2.3 litre turbo engines for
the average car like in Europe (that go FASTER) and fuel will be the last
of your problems.

Unfortunately 'Detroit' is about 30 years behind in the technology.

To come (and in some current production like in Japan) variable lift cams,
electric or hydraulic cams (relieving wasted energy in the engine with the
cam drive by about 10%), high power direct drive alternators removing the
belt drive losses to power fully electric steering, brake assistance and
even active energy recovering suspension (Lexus btw). Not mention you can
even have more efficient climate control. Belts are VERY inefficient drive
mechanisms btw.

The ICE is FAR from dead, in fact it's probably due a total renaissance.
Marine diesels can get ~ 70% efficiency with co-gen RIGHT NOW.

And how are you going to heat your car in winter with an electric drive ?
A paraffin stove ?

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

Les Cargill wrote:

Who killed the electric car?

The Second Law of Thermodynamics, that's who.

And the weight of batteries, or was that what you meant ?

Graham