Convert Spice netlist to schematic view.

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Hello everybody who would like to help me,

I'm writing my Master's Degree Thezis now.
I have to convert the netlist view which describs schemas to
schematic view that is graphical ,
so it is understandable for reading .
The problem is with placing tranzistors, resistors and other elements
in the schematic view .

Could somebody help me, is there any programs or algorythms written
concerning this kind of converter.
I think that the problem is described understandable , if no , please
sorry .

Thanks a lot and Great Regards,
Employer.
 
It is called CDLin and you get it from file->import->CDL


David
pancy@list.ru wrote:
Hello everybody who would like to help me,

I'm writing my Master's Degree Thezis now.
I have to convert the netlist view which describs schemas to
schematic view that is graphical ,
so it is understandable for reading .
The problem is with placing tranzistors, resistors and other elements
in the schematic view .

Could somebody help me, is there any programs or algorythms written
concerning this kind of converter.
I think that the problem is described understandable , if no , please
sorry .

Thanks a lot and Great Regards,
Employer.
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But I need an example of such code which do the conversion .
How can I see it ? And what is CDL . Please describe if it is
possible.
Thanks.
Employer.


DReynolds wrote:
It is called CDLin and you get it from file->import->CDL


David
pancy@list.ru wrote:
Hello everybody who would like to help me,

I'm writing my Master's Degree Thezis now.
I have to convert the netlist view which describs schemas to
schematic view that is graphical ,
so it is understandable for reading .
The problem is with placing tranzistors, resistors and other elements
in the schematic view .

Could somebody help me, is there any programs or algorythms written
concerning this kind of converter.
I think that the problem is described understandable , if no , please
sorry .

Thanks a lot and Great Regards,
Employer.
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Have you heard of a company named 'Cadence' that sells tools for Electronic Design Automation ?

You're posting in that newsgroup right now !


From what I understand, you want to make schematics for displaying, in your thesis I suspect. If
that's the case, then I tell you right away : you'd better off drawing them by hand. No tool will
generate for you a schematic which looks nice enough.


Use any tool you like, xfig, xcircuit, visio, inkscape or a real schematic editor.

Stéphane


pancy@list.ru wrote:
But I need an example of such code which do the conversion .
How can I see it ? And what is CDL . Please describe if it is
possible.
Thanks.
Employer.


DReynolds wrote:
It is called CDLin and you get it from file->import->CDL


David
pancy@list.ru wrote:
Hello everybody who would like to help me,

I'm writing my Master's Degree Thezis now.
I have to convert the netlist view which describs schemas to
schematic view that is graphical ,
so it is understandable for reading .
The problem is with placing tranzistors, resistors and other elements
in the schematic view .

Could somebody help me, is there any programs or algorythms written
concerning this kind of converter.
I think that the problem is described understandable , if no , please
sorry .

Thanks a lot and Great Regards,
Employer.
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Hello ,
Yes I have heard of company 'Cadence'.
So if im not mistaken , it has tool which can take netlist file as the
input file and output schematic view of it
(.sch for example).
I think that some other tool may exist which do opposite operation ,
that is , outputs from schematic file a netlist.
I guess that it would be hard to create nice view of schematic
characterization of the schemma.
And please tell if this -- xfig, xcircuit, visio, inkscape editors are
available , and what do they do in more details?

Thanks,
Anna.



S. Badel wrote:
Have you heard of a company named 'Cadence' that sells tools for Electronic Design Automation ?

You're posting in that newsgroup right now !


From what I understand, you want to make schematics for displaying, in your thesis I suspect. If
that's the case, then I tell you right away : you'd better off drawing them by hand. No tool will
generate for you a schematic which looks nice enough.


Use any tool you like, xfig, xcircuit, visio, inkscape or a real schematic editor.

Stéphane


pancy@list.ru wrote:
But I need an example of such code which do the conversion .
How can I see it ? And what is CDL . Please describe if it is
possible.
Thanks.
Employer.


DReynolds wrote:
It is called CDLin and you get it from file->import->CDL


David
pancy@list.ru wrote:
Hello everybody who would like to help me,

I'm writing my Master's Degree Thezis now.
I have to convert the netlist view which describs schemas to
schematic view that is graphical ,
so it is understandable for reading .
The problem is with placing tranzistors, resistors and other elements
in the schematic view .

Could somebody help me, is there any programs or algorythms written
concerning this kind of converter.
I think that the problem is described understandable , if no , please
sorry .

Thanks a lot and Great Regards,
Employer.
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Anna, the previous post I gave you told you how to convert a
CDL(Component Descpription Language) netlist into a schematic. CDL is
close enough to spice that if you have spice netlists, then you are
all set (assuming you actually have cadence available)

I agree with the previous poster that the schematics will not be that
pretty, and you are better of drawing them. You never said how many
devices are in your schematics, if they have hierarchy or anything
like that which will influence how you need to draw them to make them
pretty.

David

David
On Mar 29, 7:31 am, p...@list.ru wrote:
Hello ,
Yes I have heard of company 'Cadence'.
So if im not mistaken , it has tool which can take netlist file as the
input file and output schematic view of it
(.sch for example).
I think that some other tool may exist which do opposite operation ,
that is , outputs from schematic file a netlist.
I guess that it would be hard to create nice view of schematic
characterization of the schemma.
And please tell if this -- xfig, xcircuit, visio, inkscape editors are
available , and what do they do in more details?

Thanks,
Anna.

S. Badel wrote:
Have you heard of a company named 'Cadence' that sells tools for Electronic Design Automation ?

You're posting in that newsgroup right now !

From what I understand, you want to make schematics for displaying, in your thesis I suspect. If
that's the case, then I tell you right away : you'd better off drawing them by hand. No tool will
generate for you a schematic which looks nice enough.

Use any tool you like, xfig, xcircuit, visio, inkscape or a real schematic editor.

Stéphane

p...@list.ru wrote:
But I need an example of such code which do the conversion .
How can I see it ? And what is CDL . Please describe if it is
possible.
Thanks.
Employer.

DReynolds wrote:
It is called CDLin and you get it from file->import->CDL

David
p...@list.ru wrote:
Hello everybody who would like to help me,

I'm writing my Master's Degree Thezis now.
I have to convert the netlist view which describs schemas to
schematic view that is graphical ,
so it is understandable for reading .
The problem is with placing tranzistors, resistors and other elements
in the schematic view .

Could somebody help me, is there any programs or algorythms written
concerning this kind of converter.
I think that the problem is described understandable , if no , please
sorry .

Thanks a lot and Great Regards,
Employer.
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On Mar 29, 3:40 pm, "DReynolds" <spurwinkt...@gmail.com> wrote:
Anna, the previous post I gave you told you how to convert a
CDL(Component Descpription Language) netlist into a schematic. CDL is
close enough to spice that if you have spice netlists, then you are
all set (assuming you actually have cadence available)

I agree with the previous poster that the schematics will not be that
pretty, and you are better of drawing them. You never said how many
devices are in your schematics, if they have hierarchy or anything
like that which will influence how you need to draw them to make them
pretty.

David

David
On Mar 29, 7:31 am, p...@list.ru wrote:

Hello ,
Yes I have heard of company 'Cadence'.
So if im not mistaken , it has tool which can take netlist file as the
input file and output schematic view of it
(.sch for example).
I think that some other tool may exist which do opposite operation ,
that is , outputs from schematic file a netlist.
I guess that it would be hard to create nice view of schematic
characterization of the schemma.
And please tell if this -- xfig, xcircuit, visio, inkscape editors are
available , and what do they do in more details?

Thanks,
Anna.

S. Badel wrote:
Have you heard of a company named 'Cadence' that sells tools for Electronic Design Automation ?

You're posting in that newsgroup right now !

From what I understand, you want to make schematics for displaying, in your thesis I suspect. If
that's the case, then I tell you right away : you'd better off drawing them by hand. No tool will
generate for you a schematic which looks nice enough.

Use any tool you like, xfig, xcircuit, visio, inkscape or a real schematic editor.

Stéphane

p...@list.ru wrote:
But I need an example of such code which do the conversion .
How can I see it ? And what is CDL . Please describe if it is
possible.
Thanks.
Employer.

DReynolds wrote:
It is called CDLin and you get it from file->import->CDL

David
p...@list.ru wrote:
Hello everybody who would like to help me,

I'm writing my Master's Degree Thezis now.
I have to convert the netlist view which describs schemas to
schematic view that is graphical ,
so it is understandable for reading .
The problem is with placing tranzistors, resistors and other elements
in the schematic view .

Could somebody help me, is there any programs or algorythms written
concerning this kind of converter.
I think that the problem is described understandable , if no , please
sorry .

Thanks a lot and Great Regards,
Employer.
xfig, xcircuit, visio, inkscape are general purpose figures drawing
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tools. The latter is one of Microsoft Office package.
I think as in posts above that you do it with hand, it will be much
easier and time saving..If you further plan to append in you thesis,
then i still prefer to extract it by hand, then just draw from your
hand drawings on Visio or whatever.

Regards,
Reotaro,
 
On Mar 28, 3:57 am, p...@list.ru wrote:
Hello everybody who would like to help me,

I'm writing my Master's Degree Thezis now.
I have to convert the netlist view which describs schemas to
schematic view that is graphical ,
so it is understandable for reading .
The problem is with placing tranzistors, resistors and other elements
in the schematic view .

Could somebody help me, is there any programs or algorythms written
concerning this kind of converter.
I think that the problem is described understandable , if no , please
sorry .

Thanks a lot and Great Regards,
Employer.
Click to expand...

Try google for SpiceVision. I don't think there's any software can
convert spice netlist to a readable schematic because you don't know
where to place the components. Only EDIF can but EDIF is very loose
standard and can have various issues on EDA tools.
 
www.concept.de Spicevision -- convert deck into schematic
view
www.quintics.com Vemo --- same, but not sure of quality or
features


On Mar 28, 3:57 am, p...@list.ru wrote:
Hello everybody who would like to help me,

I'm writing my Master's Degree Thezis now.
I have to convert the netlist view which describs schemas to
schematic view that is graphical ,
so it is understandable for reading .
The problem is with placing tranzistors, resistors and other elements
in the schematic view .

Could somebody help me, is there any programs or algorythms written
concerning this kind of converter.
I think that the problem is described understandable , if no , please
sorry .

Thanks a lot and Great Regards,
Employer.
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On 6 Apr., 01:13, mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mar 28, 3:57 am, p...@list.ru wrote:



Hello everybody who would like to help me,

I'm writing my Master's Degree Thezis now.
I have to convert the netlist view which describs schemas to
schematic view that is graphical ,
so it is understandable for reading .
The problem is with placing tranzistors, resistors and other elements
in the schematic view .

Could somebody help me, is there any programs or algorythms written
concerning this kind of converter.
I think that the problem is described understandable , if no , please
sorry .

Thanks a lot and Great Regards,
Employer.

Try google for SpiceVision. I don't think there's any software can
convert spice netlist to a readable schematic because you don't know
where to place the components. Only EDIF can but EDIF is very loose
standard and can have various issues on EDA tools.
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Newer versions of cadence >IC6.1 has a feature called SpiceIn. This
tool generates schematics from your spice netlist. There are some
issues if the multiplier factor is an indirect variable. (An issue
with TSMC) I had to do some hacking on the CDF with SKILL to solve
this. I find the resulting schematic discusting and confusing. It is
almost worse than nothing.

SpiceVision is a tool that I have used extencively to get an
impression what functionality is in a spice netlist. SV will export
you a skill file that you can load into cadence. You tell SV what
reference libraries you are using, and it will even stick the
analogLib symbols in there for you. You need an extra license for the
SKILL export, though.

--
Svenn
 
On Mar 28, 3:57 am, p...@list.ru wrote:
Hello everybody who would like to help me,

www.concept.de --- Spicevision --- I use it; works great.
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www.quintics.com ---- Vemo tool ---- don't know about it


I'm writing my Master's Degree Thezis now.
I have to convert the netlist view which describs schemas to
schematic view that is graphical ,
so it is understandable for reading .
The problem is with placing tranzistors, resistors and other elements
in the schematic view .

Could somebody help me, is there any programs or algorythms written
concerning this kind of converter.
I think that the problem is described understandable , if no , please
sorry .

Thanks a lot and Great Regards,
Employer.
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