Command line in Windows?

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Jake Janovetz

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What do you folks use as a command line shell in Windows? I know
several people are working outside of Project Navigator (Xilinx) for
builds and it Windows is just not a very comforting environment for
shell folks. What 'make' utility do you use?

Jake
 
I don't use the Navigator. I just make little batch files and execute them
from the command line. I'm told that the Cygwin environment is very nice;
it allows Unix-like shells on Windows, but I haven't tried it.
-Kevin

"Jake Janovetz" <jakespambox@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d6ad3144.0312030941.60ffcc97@posting.google.com...
What do you folks use as a command line shell in Windows? I know
several people are working outside of Project Navigator (Xilinx) for
builds and it Windows is just not a very comforting environment for
shell folks. What 'make' utility do you use?

Jake
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Jake Janovetz wrote:
What do you folks use as a command line shell in Windows? I know
several people are working outside of Project Navigator (Xilinx) for
builds and it Windows is just not a very comforting environment for
shell folks. What 'make' utility do you use?
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Consider adding linux with dual boot for windows.
Then you can use any shell you like
and the real make.

-- Mike Treseler
 
What do you folks use as a command line shell in Windows? I know
several people are working outside of Project Navigator (Xilinx) for
builds and it Windows is just not a very comforting environment for
shell folks. What 'make' utility do you use?
Click to expand...
CygWin is OK, but it's large and slow. For a faster and smaller unix-like
shell you can consider Msys (from www.mingw.org) or actually Services for
Unix from MS (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/sfu/default.asp). I myself
use GNU make under plain vanilla CMD.EXE. It works fine for me, though it's
a bit annoying that Xilinx changes the command-line options in every single
release of their toolchain.

Regards,
Andras Tantos
 
In article <3FCE28FD.7000408@flukenetworks.com>,
Mike Treseler <mike.treseler@flukenetworks.com> wrote:
Jake Janovetz wrote:
What do you folks use as a command line shell in Windows? I know
several people are working outside of Project Navigator (Xilinx) for
builds and it Windows is just not a very comforting environment for
shell folks. What 'make' utility do you use?

Consider adding linux with dual boot for windows.
Then you can use any shell you like
and the real make.
Click to expand...
Also, cygwin is not that bad.


--
Nicholas C. Weaver nweaver@cs.berkeley.edu
 
CygWin is OK, but it's large and slow. For a faster and smaller unix-like
shell you can consider Msys (from www.mingw.org) or actually Services for
Unix from MS (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/sfu/default.asp). I myself
use GNU make under plain vanilla CMD.EXE. It works fine for me, though
it's
a bit annoying that Xilinx changes the command-line options in every
single
release of their toolchain.
Click to expand...
What does 'make' do for you that batch files to run the tools doesn't?

Not being aggressive - just curious in case I am missing out on some labour
saving functionality!

Cheers,

Ken


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Ken wrote:
What does 'make' do for you that batch files to run the tools doesn't?
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Nothing, if you don't use a program that generates makefiles.

Modelsim and emacs-vhdl-mode can generate makefiles
to recompile just
the right files in just the right order after
you edit a few.

But it requires having "make" in the path.


-- Mike Treseler
 
CygWin is OK, but it's large and slow. For a faster and smaller
unix-like
shell you can consider Msys (from www.mingw.org) or actually Services
for
Unix from MS (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/sfu/default.asp). I
myself
use GNU make under plain vanilla CMD.EXE. It works fine for me, though
it's
a bit annoying that Xilinx changes the command-line options in every
single
release of their toolchain.

What does 'make' do for you that batch files to run the tools doesn't?

Not being aggressive - just curious in case I am missing out on some
labour
saving functionality!
Click to expand...
Not much, since xilinx tools need a complete rebuild of the project if a
single source-file changes. (Due to the 'flattening' of the design.) It buys
some degree of platform independence though. When I gave Linux a try it was
much easier to port my design flow to that platform.

Regards,
Andras Tantos
 
Jake Janovetz wrote:
What do you folks use as a command line shell in Windows? I know
several people are working outside of Project Navigator (Xilinx) for
builds and it Windows is just not a very comforting environment for
shell folks. What 'make' utility do you use?

Jake
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Cygwin. I can't live with a Windows machine without Cygwin installed. It
has everything a Unix shell has, including tab-completion, history, ...

Gernot
 
On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 11:24:43 +0100, "Gernot Koch (remove digits from
user)" <g1er3not.k5och88@micronas.com> wrote:

Jake Janovetz wrote:
What do you folks use as a command line shell in Windows? I know
several people are working outside of Project Navigator (Xilinx) for
builds and it Windows is just not a very comforting environment for
shell folks. What 'make' utility do you use?

Jake

Cygwin. I can't live with a Windows machine without Cygwin installed.
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Ditto.

... including tab-completion, history, ...
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The windows command shell also has these features (at least in
contemporary versions of windows).

Tab-completion is disabled by default. Use regedit to change the
value of
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Command Processor\CompletionChar
from 0 to 9 to enable it.
It's not the same as tab-completion in bash, but it's better than
nothing.

Regards,
Allan.
 
For one, it buys me time -- I don't have to learn cheesy Windows batch
files and can use something that is far more flexible and platform
independent. Two, it buys integration with the rest of a project. I
can run a complete build that includes FPGA stuff (several variants,
for example), the C code on an embedded processor, and the C code for
Windows/Linux interfaces that may accompany a project.

Unfortunately, most of the Xilinx project has to be rebuilt for any
change anyhow, so you gain less in terms of incremental build as you
do in C projects.

Jake


"Ken" <aeu96186@NOSPAM.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:<retzb.16505$lm1.134567@wards.force9.net>...
What does 'make' do for you that batch files to run the tools doesn't?

Not being aggressive - just curious in case I am missing out on some labour
saving functionality!

Cheers,

Ken
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Yes, I've used Cygwin extensively for years and like it very much. I
was curious if there was a tolerable 100%-Windows environment.


"Kevin Neilson" <kevin_neilson@removethiscomcast.net> wrote in message news:<2mpzb.292233$275.1013866@attbi_s53>...
I don't use the Navigator. I just make little batch files and execute them
from the command line. I'm told that the Cygwin environment is very nice;
it allows Unix-like shells on Windows, but I haven't tried it.
-Kevin
Click to expand...
 
Mike Treseler <mike.treseler@flukenetworks.com> wrote in message news:<3FCE28FD.7000408@flukenetworks.com>...
Consider adding linux with dual boot for windows.
Then you can use any shell you like
and the real make.
Click to expand...
Yes, with the new tools usable under Linux, I've considered moving
back there. I use Linux under VMWare for a lot of stuff, I just
haven't moved my FPGA work back. Maybe that's what I should do...
 
"Jake Janovetz" <jakespambox@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d6ad3144.0312030941.60ffcc97@posting.google.com...
What do you folks use as a command line shell in Windows? I know
several people are working outside of Project Navigator (Xilinx) for
builds and it Windows is just not a very comforting environment for
shell folks. What 'make' utility do you use?
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For Window$ Explorer sustitution: Windows Commander (can't live without it)

Cheers

Klaus
 
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