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Bret Cahill

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Not that anyone ever believed our confederacy of dunces ever did
anything . . .


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New Report: 30 Million Service Jobs May Be Shipped Overseas


by James Parks, Jan 23, 2009


Recent telecommunications advances, especially the Internet, could
theoretically put more than 30 million U.S. jobs at risk of being
exported overseas. Services previously needed to be performed
domestically theoretically can be done anywhere in the world through
the Internet, four U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) analysts say
in an article appearing in the agency’s Monthly Labor Review
(subscription required).


The 160 occupations considered capable of being performed in other
countries account for some 30.3 million workers, one-fifth of total
U.S. employment and cover a wide array of job functions, pay rates
and
educational levels.


More than half of the vulnerable jobs in the BLS study are
professional and related occupations, including computer and
mathematical science occupations and architecture and engineering
jobs, and many office and administrative support occupations also are
considered susceptible.


Since 2000, corporations have shipped more than 525,000 white-collar
overseas, according to the AFL-CIO Department for Professional
Employees (DPE). Some estimates say up to 14 million middle-class
jobs
could be exported out of our nation in the next 10 years.
Accountants,
software engineers, X-ray technicians, all are losing their jobs as
corporations look for low-wage workers in countries such as India and
China.


Meanwhile, the jobs being created in the United States often are low-
wage jobs that don’t offer health coverage or ensure retirement
security. Nearly one-quarter of the nation’s workers labor in jobs
that generally pay less than the $8.85 hourly wage the U.S.
government
says it takes to keep a family of four out of poverty. Sixty percent
of such workers are women, and many are people of color.


Among the occupations most susceptible to being sent overseas, the
BLS analysts say, are those that produce information and do not
require “face-to-face” contact. Among the most vulnerable are office
and administrative support jobs, with relatively low education or
training requirements, including telephone operators, payroll and
timekeeping clerks, and word processors and typists.


Another 11 of the highest ranked jobs are professional and related
occupations, which generally possess higher educational requirements.
They include pharmacists, computer programmers, biochemists and
biophysicists, architectural and civil drafters, financial analysts,
paralegals and legal assistants.


Among the occupations least likely to be shipped overseas are
financial managers, food scientists and technologists, front-line
retail sales managers, and training and development specialists.


http://blog.aflcio.org/2009/01/23/new-report-30-million-service-jobs-...
 
Bret Cahill wrote:
Not that anyone ever believed our confederacy of dunces ever did
anything .
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Not one word to back up your use of "Better" in the subject line, because
it's simply not true. Product quality is garbage now.

My daughters bouncer collapsed when she was using it. At the time, she
weighed 35 pounds and the max weight stated by the manufacturer was 50
pounds. Yet, somehow, the the thing litterally broke over the front "legs".
The "importer" (you can't really call them a manufacturer if they don't
really make anything) never heard of such a problem, but they sure don't
seem to sell that model anymore. They were nice enough to offer us
WHOLESALE cost if we'd send them the evidence. Payable after they receive
the product back. Not very generous considering that she could have really
hurt herself by smacking her face on something other than the carpeted
floor.

She also owns a cool math toy that never fails to speak the wrong answers,
glad I noticed before she developed psychological problems from it. Amazon
ate that one and just sent another one to us without requiring a return.
They didn't even want it back. Both of these products were from a company
with a really big name. Big enough that I won't mention it as I have better
things to do with my life than to defend the truth in court.
 
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Not that anyone ever believed our confederacy of dunces ever did
anything . . .


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


New Report: 30 Million Service Jobs May Be Shipped Overseas


by James Parks, Jan 23, 2009


Recent telecommunications advances, especially the Internet, could
theoretically put more than 30 million U.S. jobs at risk of being
exported overseas. Services previously needed to be performed
domestically theoretically can be done anywhere in the world through
the Internet, four U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) analysts say
in an article appearing in the agency’s Monthly Labor Review
(subscription required).


The 160 occupations considered capable of being performed in other
countries account for some 30.3 million workers, one-fifth of total
U.S. employment and cover a wide array of job functions, pay rates
and
educational levels.


More than half of the vulnerable jobs in the BLS study are
professional and related occupations, including computer and
mathematical science occupations and architecture and engineering
jobs, and many office and administrative support occupations also are
considered susceptible.


Since 2000, corporations have shipped more than 525,000 white-collar
overseas, according to the AFL-CIO Department for Professional
Employees (DPE). Some estimates say up to 14 million middle-class
jobs
could be exported out of our nation in the next 10 years.
Accountants,
software engineers, X-ray technicians, all are losing their jobs as
corporations look for low-wage workers in countries such as India and
China.


Meanwhile, the jobs being created in the United States often are low-
wage jobs that don’t offer health coverage or ensure retirement
security. Nearly one-quarter of the nation’s workers labor in jobs
that generally pay less than the $8.85 hourly wage the U.S.
government
says it takes to keep a family of four out of poverty. Sixty percent
of such workers are women, and many are people of color.


Among the occupations most susceptible to being sent overseas, the
BLS analysts say, are those that produce information and do not
require “face-to-face” contact. Among the most vulnerable are office
and administrative support jobs, with relatively low education or
training requirements, including telephone operators, payroll and
timekeeping clerks, and word processors and typists.


Another 11 of the highest ranked jobs are professional and related
occupations, which generally possess higher educational requirements.
They include pharmacists, computer programmers, biochemists and
biophysicists, architectural and civil drafters, financial analysts,
paralegals and legal assistants.


Among the occupations least likely to be shipped overseas are
financial managers, food scientists and technologists, front-line
retail sales managers, and training and development specialists.


http://blog.aflcio.org/2009/01/23/new-report-30-million-service-jobs-...

Personally I think we need to re-think free trade. I think it is fine at
some level but as it begins to undermine critical industries and professions
some level of protection is in order to insure the US maintains critical
skills and a robust standard of living. It's absurd to constantly be
running the race to the bottom so that Americans eventually live in shanties
like in China and India and make pauper wages. One solution might be tariffs
and taxes to give advantage to hiring American. A company would be free to
do what they wanted but to sell into the American market, they would have to
have a certain number of Americans in their work force. Those that did not
hire Americans would be taxed accordingly to sell here.

Many corporations do not even pay taxes these days because of loop holes
that allow moving their operations off shore. Under my scheme they would pay
taxes and or tariffs to sell into the American market regardless of
location. Certain non critical industries might be exempt from this while
other industries could bargain with reciprocal trade. Under this idea, we
would buy tariff free from them and they buy equal value tariff free from
us. Both would maintain their own labor forces.

It's time to rethink this idiotic notion that "free trade" is good for
everyone. That clearly is not the case.
 
news:cd794835-b94b-4794-aaad-ad6515505234@l39g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
Not that anyone ever believed our confederacy of dunces ever did
anything . . .

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

New Report: 30 Million Service Jobs May Be Shipped Overseas

by James Parks, Jan 23, 2009

Recent telecommunications advances, especially the Internet, could
theoretically put more than 30 million U.S. jobs at risk of being
exported overseas. Services previously needed to be performed
domestically theoretically can be done anywhere in the world through
the Internet, four U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) analysts say
in an article appearing in the agency’s Monthly Labor Review
(subscription required).

The 160 occupations considered capable of being performed in other
countries account for some 30.3 million workers, one-fifth of total
U.S. employment and cover a wide array of job functions, pay rates
and
educational levels.

More than half of the vulnerable jobs in the BLS study are
professional and related occupations, including computer and
mathematical science occupations and architecture and engineering
jobs, and many office and administrative support occupations also are
considered susceptible.

Since 2000, corporations have shipped more than 525,000 white-collar
overseas, according to the AFL-CIO Department for Professional
Employees (DPE). Some estimates say up to 14 million middle-class
jobs
could be exported out of our nation in the next 10 years.
Accountants,
software engineers, X-ray technicians, all are losing their jobs as
corporations look for low-wage workers in countries such as India and
China.

Meanwhile, the jobs being created in the United States often are low-
wage jobs that don’t offer health coverage or ensure retirement
security. Nearly one-quarter of the nation’s workers labor in jobs
that generally pay less than the $8.85 hourly wage the U.S.
government
says it takes to keep a family of four out of poverty. Sixty percent
of such workers are women, and many are people of color.

 Among the occupations most susceptible to being sent overseas, the
BLS analysts say, are those that produce information and do not
require “face-to-face” contact. Among the most vulnerable are office
and administrative support jobs, with relatively low education or
training requirements, including telephone operators, payroll and
timekeeping clerks, and word processors and typists.

Another 11 of the highest ranked jobs are professional and related
occupations, which generally possess higher educational requirements.
They include pharmacists, computer programmers, biochemists and
biophysicists, architectural and civil drafters, financial analysts,
paralegals and legal assistants.

Among the occupations least likely to be shipped overseas are
financial managers, food scientists and technologists, front-line
retail sales managers, and training and development specialists.

http://blog.aflcio.org/2009/01/23/new-report-30-million-service-jobs-...

Personally I think we need to re-think free trade. I think it is fine at
some level but as it begins to undermine critical industries and professions
some level of protection is in order to insure the US maintains critical
skills and a robust standard of living. It's absurd to constantly  be
running the race to the bottom so that Americans eventually live in shanties
like in China and India and make pauper wages. One solution might be tariffs
and taxes to give advantage to hiring American. A company would be free to
do what they wanted but to sell into the American market, they would have to
have a certain number of Americans in their work force. Those that did not
hire Americans would be taxed accordingly to sell here.

Many corporations do not even pay taxes these days because of loop holes
that allow moving their operations off shore. Under my scheme they would pay
taxes and or tariffs to sell into the American market regardless of
location. Certain non critical industries might be exempt from this while
other industries could bargain with reciprocal trade. Under this idea, we
would buy tariff free from them and they buy equal value tariff free from
us. Both would maintain their own labor forces.

It's time to rethink this idiotic notion that "free trade" is good for
everyone. That clearly is not the case.
If you don't like globalized communication / information / money
transfers you'll need to move to another . . . well . . . another
universe.

Even spiraling fuel prices will not stop globalization of products.
It costs $700 to ship a 20 ton container from China to Europe.

That's 0.00015 pennies/pound-mile

One third of a cent/ton mile

Our only hope is to start thinking outside the box.


Bret Cahill


There's going to be a leveling between rich and poor and between rich
and poor nations.

-- Louis Gerstner CEO of IBM
 
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Bret Cahill


There's going to be a leveling between rich and poor and between rich
and poor nations.

-- Louis Gerstner CEO of IBM

Uh Huh! And who is going to buy Mr. Gerstner's computers when we are all
living in shanties?
 
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Bret Cahill


There's going to be a leveling between rich and poor and between rich
and poor nations.

-- Louis Gerstner CEO of IBM

Uh Huh! And who is going to buy Mr. Gerstner's computers when we are all
living in shanties?
....even if it requires that the UN reduce the level of the "rich"
down to that of the "poor" to accomplish those ends, eh comrade?
 
snip...

Bret Cahill

There's going to be a leveling between rich and poor and between rich
and poor nations.

-- Louis Gerstner �CEO of IBM

Uh Huh! �And who is going to buy Mr. Gerstner's computers when we are all
living in shanties?
Gerstner's phraseology comes straight from the intro to _Democracy In
America_ where DeTocqueville told the remnants of the ancien regime
that it was impossible to fight the progress of equality. The best
that they could do was forget about fighting democracy and instead try
to preserve "what little freedom we have left."

The French live better now than in 1833 so it is good advice.

Gerstner told Congress that exactly 10 years ago and for a few days I
was optimistic that they would at least listen to the CEO of the
world's biggest tech firm. I don't believe anyone noticed Gerstner
anymore than some homeless guy on the corner of 14th and Florida in
the crack dist. of DC.

A decade and several trillions wasted on patriotic quagmires later and
maybe they'll listen.

It probably took the French a few years to listen to Tocqueville as
well.


Bret Cahill


"France is every American's second country."

-- Thomas Jefferson
 

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