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[Rod Speed]

jimp@specsol.com wrote:

In sci.physics Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
jimp@specsol.com wrote:
In sci.physics Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
jimp@specsol.com wrote:
In sci.physics Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
jimp@specsol.com wrote:
In sci.physics Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
jimp@specsol.com wrote:
In sci.physics Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
jimp@specsol.com wrote:
In sci.physics Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
jimp@specsol.com wrote:
In sci.physics Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
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Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
jmfbahciv wrote
jimp@specsol.com wrote:
Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote
Andy F. wrote

Or someone could invent a battery that charges up
quickly.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20126994.700-nanoball-batteries-could-recharge-car-in-minutes.html

"THE next generation of plug-in hybrid cars could
recharge in minutes, thanks to a new type of
battery.
This will also require much new electrical
infrastructure at local levels to handle the
electrical requirements.

Not to mention cables and connectors the size of your
leg.

That was the size of the cables our computers used
(mainframes in the 60s, 70s and early 80s).

No it wasnt.

There was a limit to how long they could be.

How odd that the street cables that thick can go for
miles.

How odd the babbling kook has no concept of Ohm's Law,
i squared r losses, or why the current ratings for wires
exist.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

Non sequitur, but what else would one expect from a
babbling kook.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

It seems the babbling kook can't work up new drool; so much
frothing at the mouth he's run out of spit?

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

Yep, out of new drool; must have fried what little brain he
had left trying to make a wind turbine that violates
conservation of energy.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

I love it when a drooling kook is at a loss for new insanity and
just reposts the same froth over and over.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

The other poster must be right; it is a bot caught in an error trap.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

Yep, nothing but the same, tired, grammatically challenged thing over and over.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

 

In sci.physics Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

jimp@specsol.com wrote:
In sci.physics Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
jimp@specsol.com wrote:
In sci.physics Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
jimp@specsol.com wrote:
In sci.physics Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
jimp@specsol.com wrote:
In sci.physics Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
jimp@specsol.com wrote:
In sci.physics Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
jimp@specsol.com wrote:
In sci.physics Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
jimp@specsol.com wrote:
In sci.physics Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
jimp@specsol.com wrote:
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
jmfbahciv wrote
jimp@specsol.com wrote:
Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote
Andy F. wrote

Or someone could invent a battery that charges up
quickly.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20126994.700-nanoball-batteries-could-recharge-car-in-minutes.html

"THE next generation of plug-in hybrid cars could
recharge in minutes, thanks to a new type of
battery.
This will also require much new electrical
infrastructure at local levels to handle the
electrical requirements.

Not to mention cables and connectors the size of your
leg.

That was the size of the cables our computers used
(mainframes in the 60s, 70s and early 80s).

No it wasnt.

There was a limit to how long they could be.

How odd that the street cables that thick can go for
miles.

How odd the babbling kook has no concept of Ohm's Law,
i squared r losses, or why the current ratings for wires
exist.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

Non sequitur, but what else would one expect from a
babbling kook.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

It seems the babbling kook can't work up new drool; so much
frothing at the mouth he's run out of spit?

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

Yep, out of new drool; must have fried what little brain he
had left trying to make a wind turbine that violates
conservation of energy.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

I love it when a drooling kook is at a loss for new insanity and
just reposts the same froth over and over.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

The other poster must be right; it is a bot caught in an error trap.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

Yep, nothing but the same, tired, grammatically challenged thing over and over.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

Or maybe it is a bot stuck in gibbering hillbilly mode.


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In sci.physics Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Nothing but kook babble.

<snip childish babble>

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[Rod Speed]

Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind
jimp@specsol.com desperately attempted to bullshit its way out
of its predicament and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.

 

[Rod Speed]

Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind
jimp@specsol.com desperately attempted to bullshit its way out
of its predicament and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.

 

In sci.physics Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind
jimp@specsol.com desperately attempted to bullshit its way out
of its predicament and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.

Your adolescent babbling has become extremely boring.

*PLONK*


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[Oscar]

Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind
jimp@specsol.com desperately attempted to bullshits way out
of its predicament and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.

 

In sci.physics Oscar <os@eju.com> wrote:

Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind
jimp@specsol.com desperately attempted to bullshits way out
of its predicament and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.

The babbling, adolescent kook seems to believe he can escape the
kill file through rather childesh obfuscation.

A hearty *PLONK* to all your split personalities.



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[Rob Dekker]

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind
jimp@specsol.com desperately attempted to bullshit its way out
of its predicament and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.

Rod, you are stuck in a subroutine...

 

[Helge]

On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 21:44:52 +0100, Baron
<baron.nospam@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote:

Since you don't know the gate specs of the device you have, you should
use the highest value that gives consistent triggering.

I do know. The thyristor is a 30TPS12. It can handle 1.5A on the gate,
so there should be plenty safety margin.

 

[Baron]

Helge wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 21:44:52 +0100, Baron
<baron.nospam@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote:

Since you don't know the gate specs of the device you have, you should
use the highest value that gives consistent triggering.

I do know. The thyristor is a 30TPS12. It can handle 1.5A on the gate,
so there should be plenty safety margin.

That is the maximum gate current. According to the datasheet it
requires 60ma max to trigger it on and that value falls with increasing
temperature.

But you got it working, which is the main thing !

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Best Regards:
Baron.

 

[G Cornelius]

In sci.energy Borked Pseudo Mailed <nobody@pseudo.borked.net> wrote:

1. To sweeten things up private commuter EVs and hybrids won't be
metered for the electricity for the first 20 years -- whole new
meaning to the word "freeway." Only large trucks will pay in the
beginning.

2. Automakers only get federal money to build hybrids and EVs.

Bio fuel ain't gonna happen so why wait?

These guys [plug removed]

have a different model to spread the use of EVs, the Cell Phone
model. Charge very little for the cars themselves but charge
for "miles". Owners don't even have to worry about the batteries.
In the BetterPlace model, the company keeps the batteries and
swaps them out, as needed. If new battery technology comes along,
BetterPlace buys them and you get one popped in at your next fillup.

Another key part of their model is to install infrastructure
on "islands" or "regions" where people routinely just have to
travel less than ~300 miles, round trip, per fill up. (E.g.,
Israel, Denmark, Australia, Hawaii, San Fran Bay area, ...)

Why is this posted three different times to the "Slot Car..."
topic(s) with different mileage numbers each time?

Why should we consider this as anything else than a scam post
to try to drum up numbers at a web site or separate investors
from their funds?

--
George Cornelius gcornelius a t charter d o t net

 

[default]

On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 08:59:32 -0700 (PDT), Fibo <panfilero@yahoo.com>
wrote:

On Apr 21, 10:49 am, Jean-Christophe <5...@free.fr> wrote:
On Apr 21, 3:45 pm, Fibo <panfil...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Does anyone know how I could protect a load from exceeding two
different voltages...

I have a load that I want to keep within +1.6V and -0.6V.... I can't
exceed these values, and have to be within 200mV of them

I thought about putting a 1.6V zener across my load, that way in one
direction it wouldn't go over 1.6V and in the other direction it would
be limited to about 0.6V... but I can't find any 1.6V zeners...

Does anyone know another way I could pull this off?

Self-made 1.6V zener : two or three diodes in series.
Then a diode in reverse parallel and you have your limiter.

ahhh.... I like this 2 or 3 diode solution... sounds promising, thanks

my accuracy has to be within +/- 200mV

and my load will be pulling around 100uA

A " 'load' of 100 qua?" two silicon signal diodes and one germanium
should be 1.5 volts.

--

 

[Anonymous]

Why is this posted three different times to the "Slot Car..."
topic(s) with different mileage numbers each time?

That's my fault. I post using an anonymizer and wait around
12 hours to see if a post gets thru. When it doesn't, I try
again and wait another 12 hours but make a small change so I
can know which post made it. It took several tries to get the
recent post(s) thru but then it seems SEVERAL got thru after
different, random delay periods. I'm not a shill. Sorry.

The actual mileage isn't important. In Hawaii, they might
need a smaller number (cheaper batteries) since it's a smaller
commuting "island". The point is, their targets are places with
a relatively low-mileage round trip commute in a contained area.

Once the infrastructure grows, power / battery swap stations
might extend further and further out from the "islands".

I'm not a shill. I don't own any part of BetterPlace, I haven't
invested anything nor do I know anybody who has. I don't think
it's a scam but you'll have to figure that out some other way.

 

[Androcles]

"Anonymous" <cripto@ecn.org> wrote in message
news:20090422013016.746961A7A7A@www.ecn.org...

Why is this posted three different times to the "Slot Car..."
topic(s) with different mileage numbers each time?


That's my fault. I post using an anonymizer and wait around
12 hours to see if a post gets thru. When it doesn't, I try
again and wait another 12 hours but make a small change so I
can know which post made it. It took several tries to get the
recent post(s) thru but then it seems SEVERAL got thru after
different, random delay periods. I'm not a shill. Sorry.

The actual mileage isn't important. In Hawaii, they might
need a smaller number (cheaper batteries) since it's a smaller
commuting "island". The point is, their targets are places with
a relatively low-mileage round trip commute in a contained area.

Once the infrastructure grows, power / battery swap stations
might extend further and further out from the "islands".

I'm not a shill. I don't own any part of BetterPlace, I haven't
invested anything nor do I know anybody who has. I don't think
it's a scam but you'll have to figure that out some other way.

Ah, a paranoid shill... you don't want anyone to know you are really

Michelle Obama.

 

[G Cornelius]

Anonymous wrote:

I'm not a shill. I don't own any part of BetterPlace, I haven't
invested anything nor do I know anybody who has. I don't think
it's a scam but you'll have to figure that out some other way.

Thanks for the clarification.

It is not clear why you would need an anonymizer anyway. Posting
to a newsgroup is automatically anonymous, expecially if you post
via a site which does not report your host IP in the news headers.
But I guess it's your choice.

I am quite suspicious of many (most) of the green energy
schemes that are brought up here, but I actually think battery
changing stations are a reasonable option, at least in an
urban setting.

P.S. Is it just me, or is this 'spiralling' concept being improperly
used? The term 'wage price spiral' describes a purported mechanism
by which inflation can occur, and was widely used for Ford and Carter
era inflation. My thinking is that it is entirely inappropriate to
describe an ordinary supply and demand price change as a spiral.
There is no spiral to be found!

--
George Cornelius gcornelius a t charter d o t net

 

[Bret Cahill]

�P.S. Is it just me, or is this 'spiralling' concept being improperly
�used? �The term 'wage price spiral' describes a purported mechanism
�by which inflation can occur, and was widely used for Ford and Carter
�era inflation. �My thinking is that it is entirely inappropriate to
�describe an ordinary supply and demand price change as a spiral.
�There is no spiral to be found!

I may drop it for other reasons -- too hackneyed, etc.


Bret Cahill

 

[Bret Cahill]

1. �To sweeten things up private commuter EVs and hybrids won't be
metered for the electricity for the first 20 years -- whole new
meaning to the word "freeway." ďż˝ Only large trucks will pay in the
beginning.

2. �Automakers only get federal money to build hybrids and EVs..

Bio fuel ain't gonna happen so why wait?

These guys [plug removed]
have a different model to spread the use of EVs, the Cell Phone
model. �Charge very little for the cars themselves but charge
for "miles". �Owners don't even have to worry about the batteries.
In the BetterPlace model, the company keeps the batteries and
swaps them out, as needed. �If new battery technology comes along,
BetterPlace buys them and you get one popped in at your next fillup.

Another key part of their model is to install infrastructure
on "islands" or "regions" where people routinely just have to
travel less than ~300 miles, round trip, per fill up. ďż˝(E.g.,
Israel, Denmark, Australia, Hawaii, San Fran Bay area, ...)

Why is this posted three different times to the "Slot Car..."
topic(s) with different mileage numbers each time?

Why should we consider this as anything else than a scam post
to try to drum up numbers at a web site or separate investors
from their funds?

It's hard to imagine it being a successful scam.

The first question any investor will ask is, "what will keep the
consumer from selling the inexpensive or free car for it's expensive
parts, i.e., the motors, batteries, tires, etc?"

A cell phone is priced just higher than the battery for the same
reason.

Transportation solutions by nature will necessarily require more than
just the garage / basement innovation that was so successful in
software, cell phone and other high tech start ups.

If individualists want to keep cheap individual transportation then
the "individualist this individualist that" mentality needs to be
placed on the ash heap of history along with all the rest of the
Reagan era nonsense.


www.bretcahill.com

 

[Nobody]

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:28:36 +1000, Sylvia Else wrote:

Mind you, I think the graph is wrong. When it's flowing, the current
into a capactor should be proportional to the rate of change of voltage.
So you should see a rapid rise once the input voltage goes above that
already on the capacitor, followed by a progressive reduction towards
zero (plus the load current) at the voltage peak.

That's what you get if the voltage ripple is large: a reverse sawtooth.

But if the voltage ripple is small, you need to allow for the fact that
a diode isn't a switch. Conduction will only start to occur at the very
peak of the voltage waveform, where dv/dt is small, so the transition
through the knee of the characteristic curve will be slow.

By the chain rule, d(i(v))/dt = di/dv*dv/dt. As the voltage increases to
the point where the characteristic curve becomes steep, dV/dt falls
even faster, so the increasing di/dv is counteracted by decreasing dv/dt.

I suppose you'd get
something closer to what's shown if there were an inductor in series
with the supply.

There's always some parasitic inductance, if only from the wires.
More significantly, linear supplies have the leakage inductance of the
transformer's secondary, and any switching supply will have an EMI filter.

Even with zero parasitic inductance, there's still the capacitor's ESR; if
you model the capacitor as a series R-C, the capacitor will still be
charging at (and slightly after) the voltage peak.

 

[Sjouke Burry]

Alubukhara wrote:

Please answer.

"Alubukhara" <garma@sarda.com> wrote in message
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Everybody knows you dont run heavy loads (Iron, AC etc) on batteries but
why?

A normal one ton Air Conditionar (AC) requires 1500 Watts so the current
(amps) required if the mains voltage is 220 should be 1500/220 = 6.8 Amp

A 100 Amp hour battery can provide 100 amperes for 1 hour right?

That means it should be able to run about 14 AC's (100/6.8) for one
hour??????????

I know its nonsense but what am I missing here?

Only if you use 220 volt ac batteries, which is rather unlikely.