China Tiger.....

[Doug Taylor]

Welcome to the new world of Globalization.....

Where the number one import from China to North America is computers
and computer parts. Second is Video equipment.(VCR's DVD's Etc)

North America is de-industrializing.... has been for some time...
but China is really going to push the limits.
There goes millions of more jobs!

But hey! You can buy a VCR at Walmart for $50.
I can remember when I paid $950 for a new VCR in the early '80's.
Still, this adds to the problem we as electronic enthusiast's are
confronted with.
How can we survive when the cost of a VCR is the cost of 1 hr. labour.
It's the end of the repair game, except for us who do it for education
and entertainment 8*)

Well , I like to see the glass as half full(optimist).
I can now buy computer parts from a Chiniese supplier for dirt cheap.
Hey finally I can have fun with my hobby, without spending a fortune.
Can build a system for $500. that used to cost $3000.

But, what about the economics and what it spells for us as workers.
How can we compete on the world stage, when we work for $20 Hr.
and they work for $1 Hr.

I see huge storm clouds ....
There's going to be big problems.

Unless your highly educated, your future is bleak.

New technology and its spilloff increased productivity is our only
salvation.

But I live in a country(Canada) where people are still techno-phobic.
Resistance to change here is still deeply engrained.
Has something to do with our Canadian, conservative attitudes.
People are stubborn and averse to rapid change and will suffer
as a consequence.

What do you think?
Are we headed for impoverization!



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[Bob Shuman]

Doug,

Don't be so quick to believe that education and high technology are the
answers to the global labor rate disparity.

Where I work my company is (and has been for several years now) moving a
significant number of its development (hardware and software) jobs to "low
cost regions" where they can buy a highly educated developer for slightly
less than a quarter of what they pay in the US. Adding insult to injury,
the US workers are training their replacements from China, India, Brazil,
Poland, Russia, etc. with the knowledge that once they succeed, the vast
majority will be let go. Given the current job market, most of those
already laid off are now working in services jobs that pay considerably
less.

This is deja vu for me since I saw this same phenomenon in the 1980's as
manufacturing went offshore to chase low labor rates. I expect that the
future will hold lowering paying jobs in the US and a devalued US dollar
while the labor rates, prices, inflation increase in the developing
countries. I am an electrical engineer and information technology worker by
education and experience, but I would not recommend my children to pursue
this career unless they were going to be in some type of technical sales or
support roles where proximity to the customer is required.

Bob

"Doug Taylor" <techno2nospam@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:slrnbhvmji.ln.techno2nospam@localhost.localdomain...

Welcome to the new world of Globalization.....

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But, what about the economics and what it spells for us as workers.
How can we compete on the world stage, when we work for $20 Hr.
and they work for $1 Hr.

I see huge storm clouds ....
There's going to be big problems.

Unless your highly educated, your future is bleak.

New technology and its spilloff increased productivity is our only
salvation.

 

[A E]

Doug Taylor wrote:

Welcome to the new world of Globalization.....

Where the number one import from China to North America is computers
and computer parts. Second is Video equipment.(VCR's DVD's Etc)

North America is de-industrializing.... has been for some time...
but China is really going to push the limits.
There goes millions of more jobs!

Yes, as I like to tell people, we are a post-technological society. We (the
West) have led the way for technology and industrialisation for a while, we
showed the rest of the world how to do it. Now, let's let them have their
chance, we now have to be able to build a society that can cope with the effects
of this technology. We will become suppliers of university education and social
models.

Too bad if you happen to be a hands-on hardware type. Maybe you can move to the
so-called 'second world', such as south america.