China’s fake science industry: how ‘paper mills ’ threaten progress...

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Fred Bloggs

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Experts say that China’s impressive output masks systemic inefficiencies and an underbelly of low-quality and fraudulent research...

https://www.ft.com/content/32440f74-7804-4637-a662-6cdc8f3fba86
 
On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 2:45:02 AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
Experts say that China’s impressive output masks systemic inefficiencies and an underbelly of low-quality and fraudulent research...

https://www.ft.com/content/32440f74-7804-4637-a662-6cdc8f3fba86

As usual, China is adopting techniques that have been popular in the west for years.

https://effectiviology.com/sturgeons-law/

I don\'t know of much fraudulent research that got published jn the west - except for Diederik Stapel\'s

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/28/magazine/diederik-stapels-audacious-academic-fraud.html

but I do know of a lot that wasn\'t worth publishing.

You do have to read the scientific literature with a very critical eye. The literature review in my Ph.D. thesis was critical of a number of the papers I looked at and nobody found that odd or unexpected.

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Bill Sloman, Sydhney
 
On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 11:17:34 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 2:45:02 AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
Experts say that China’s impressive output masks systemic inefficiencies and an underbelly of low-quality and fraudulent research...

https://www.ft.com/content/32440f74-7804-4637-a662-6cdc8f3fba86
As usual, China is adopting techniques that have been popular in the west for years.

https://effectiviology.com/sturgeons-law/

I don\'t know of much fraudulent research that got published jn the west - except for Diederik Stapel\'s

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/28/magazine/diederik-stapels-audacious-academic-fraud.html

There was this idiot:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sch%C3%B6n_scandal

Here\'s another BIG one:

Lies and Rigged \'Star Wars\' Test Fooled the Kremlin, and Congress

https://www.nytimes.com/1993/08/18/us/lies-and-rigged-star-wars-test-fooled-the-kremlin-and-congress.html

When it comes down to big money, the U.S. government is \"misadvised\" ALL THE TIME.

but I do know of a lot that wasn\'t worth publishing.

You do have to read the scientific literature with a very critical eye. The literature review in my Ph.D. thesis was critical of a number of the papers I looked at and nobody found that odd or unexpected.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydhney
 
On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 11:17:34 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 2:45:02 AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
Experts say that China’s impressive output masks systemic inefficiencies and an underbelly of low-quality and fraudulent research...

https://www.ft.com/content/32440f74-7804-4637-a662-6cdc8f3fba86
As usual, China is adopting techniques that have been popular in the west for years.

https://effectiviology.com/sturgeons-law/

I don\'t know of much fraudulent research that got published jn the west - except for Diederik Stapel\'s

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/28/magazine/diederik-stapels-audacious-academic-fraud.html

but I do know of a lot that wasn\'t worth publishing.

You do have to read the scientific literature with a very critical eye. The literature review in my Ph.D. thesis was critical of a number of the papers I looked at and nobody found that odd or unexpected.

Another American Chinese ( I think ) fraud:

Scientist behind fake HIV breakthrough sentenced to prison after spiking results

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/jul/01/iowa-scientist-hiv-breakthrough-dong-pyou-han

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Bill Sloman, Sydhney
 
On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 11:17:34 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 2:45:02 AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
Experts say that China’s impressive output masks systemic inefficiencies and an underbelly of low-quality and fraudulent research...

https://www.ft.com/content/32440f74-7804-4637-a662-6cdc8f3fba86
As usual, China is adopting techniques that have been popular in the west for years.

https://effectiviology.com/sturgeons-law/

I don\'t know of much fraudulent research that got published jn the west - except for Diederik Stapel\'s

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/28/magazine/diederik-stapels-audacious-academic-fraud.html

but I do know of a lot that wasn\'t worth publishing.

You do have to read the scientific literature with a very critical eye. The literature review in my Ph.D. thesis was critical of a number of the papers I looked at and nobody found that odd or unexpected.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientific_misconduct_incidents


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Bill Sloman, Sydhney
 
On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 11:43:34 PM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 11:17:34 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 2:45:02 AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
Experts say that China’s impressive output masks systemic inefficiencies and an underbelly of low-quality and fraudulent research...

https://www.ft.com/content/32440f74-7804-4637-a662-6cdc8f3fba86
As usual, China is adopting techniques that have been popular in the west for years.

https://effectiviology.com/sturgeons-law/

I don\'t know of much fraudulent research that got published jn the west - except for Diederik Stapel\'s

That I knew about because a friend of ours ended up on the investigating committee. The point was to contrast active fraud - which does happen but not that often - somewhere you come up with a figure of 2% - with the 90% that Sturgeon\'s Law says isn\'t worth reading.

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/28/magazine/diederik-stapels-audacious-academic-fraud.html

but I do know of a lot that wasn\'t worth publishing.

You do have to read the scientific literature with a very critical eye. The literature review in my Ph.D. thesis was critical of a number of the papers I looked at and nobody found that odd or unexpected.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientific_misconduct_incidents

It\'s a long list but they are tolerably isolated incidents within system that works tolerably well. If we tried to tighten it up we wouldn\'t prevent much fraud (because there isn\'t much) and we\'d get less research done, and probably squeeze out more of the original and interesting research than of the tedious me-too junk.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney
 

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