Cheap AA cells

[Mike Harding]

We had a bit of a discussion about AA alkaline cell
costs on here a few weeks ago. Farnell are currently
offering a pack of 500 Varta AA alkalines for about
$230 inc. GST and del. which works out at 46c per
cell - which is _cheap_. Varta are a good make and
I guess would have a capacity similar to Duracell
et al.

So if you use _lots_ of AA cells or can split the box
with 3 or 4 mates these could be a goof buy.

Farnell cat #7779-9493

Mike Harding

 

[Trevor Wilson]

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We had a bit of a discussion about AA alkaline cell
costs on here a few weeks ago. Farnell are currently
offering a pack of 500 Varta AA alkalines for about
$230 inc. GST and del. which works out at 46c per
cell - which is _cheap_. Varta are a good make and
I guess would have a capacity similar to Duracell
et al.

So if you use _lots_ of AA cells or can split the box
with 3 or 4 mates these could be a goof buy.

Farnell cat #7779-9493

**Jaycar's are cheaper. And you only have to buy 24. Dunno if they're
better, though.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

 

[Phil Allison]

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"Mike Harding" <mike_harding1@nixspamhotmail.com> wrote in message
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We had a bit of a discussion about AA alkaline cell
costs on here a few weeks ago. Farnell are currently
offering a pack of 500 Varta AA alkalines for about
$230 inc. GST and del. which works out at 46c per
cell - which is _cheap_. Varta are a good make and
I guess would have a capacity similar to Duracell
et al.

So if you use _lots_ of AA cells or can split the box
with 3 or 4 mates these could be a goof buy.

Farnell cat #7779-9493

**Jaycar's are cheaper. And you only have to buy 24. Dunno if they're
better, though.

** Using a plug pack adaptor is 1000 times cheaper than either.





............. Phil

 

[Justin Thyme]

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** Using a plug pack adaptor is 1000 times cheaper than either.
When i'm out bushwalking and want to use my digital camera, I find the 10km

of extension leads to power my plugpack a bit heavy, plus the cost added up
pretty quick.

So I got some rechargeables instead.

............ Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

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** Using a plug pack adaptor is 1000 times cheaper than either.

When i'm out bushwalking and want to use my digital camera, I find the
10km
of extension leads to power my plugpack a bit heavy, plus the cost added
up
pretty quick.

So I got some rechargeables instead.

** WTF have rechargeables got to do with my point above ???????





............ Phil

 

[Trevor Wilson]

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"Mike Harding" <mike_harding1@nixspamhotmail.com> wrote in message
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We had a bit of a discussion about AA alkaline cell
costs on here a few weeks ago. Farnell are currently
offering a pack of 500 Varta AA alkalines for about
$230 inc. GST and del. which works out at 46c per
cell - which is _cheap_. Varta are a good make and
I guess would have a capacity similar to Duracell
et al.

So if you use _lots_ of AA cells or can split the box
with 3 or 4 mates these could be a goof buy.

Farnell cat #7779-9493

**Jaycar's are cheaper. And you only have to buy 24. Dunno if they're
better, though.




** Using a plug pack adaptor is 1000 times cheaper than either.

**And 2,000 times better for the environment. AA batteries are alleged, in
production, to cost 2,000 times the energy they produce over their life.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

 

[Justin Thyme]

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** Using a plug pack adaptor is 1000 times cheaper than either.


When i'm out bushwalking and want to use my digital camera, I find the
10km
of extension leads to power my plugpack a bit heavy, plus the cost added
up
pretty quick.

So I got some rechargeables instead.




** WTF have rechargeables got to do with my point above ???????
You obviously missed the point - hardly surprising - plugpacks aren't always

a suitable replacement for batteries because of the requirement to have
mains power available. So, in a lot of circumstances, rechargeables are a
better solution.

........... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

"Justin Thyme"

** WTF have rechargeables got to do with my point above
???????

You obviously missed the point

** Since there was not one.


- hardly surprising - plugpacks aren't always

a suitable replacement for batteries because of the requirement to have
mains power available. So, in a lot of circumstances, rechargeables are a
better solution.

** Hey - fuckhead .

My point was about the massive energy inefficiency of alkalines.

You have nothing to say on that point - so shut up.






........... Phil

 

[Mike Harding]

On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 23:02:52 +1000, "Phil Allison"
<philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

"Justin Thyme"


** WTF have rechargeables got to do with my point above
???????

You obviously missed the point

** Since there was not one.


- hardly surprising - plugpacks aren't always
a suitable replacement for batteries because of the requirement to have
mains power available. So, in a lot of circumstances, rechargeables are a
better solution.



** Hey - fuckhead .

My point was about the massive energy inefficiency of alkalines.

You have nothing to say on that point - so shut up.


.......... Phil

Phil, next time you whine on about how you have been
insulted without reason in a thread... just remember
this post.

Mike Harding

 

[Justin Thyme]

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"Justin Thyme"


** WTF have rechargeables got to do with my point above
???????

You obviously missed the point

** Since there was not one.
You still don't understand it after I explained it to you? you must be

stupid.

- hardly surprising - plugpacks aren't always
a suitable replacement for batteries because of the requirement to have
mains power available. So, in a lot of circumstances, rechargeables are
a
better solution.



** Hey - fuckhead .
resorting to base language so quickly? a sure sign of a poor intellectual

ability.

My point was about the massive energy inefficiency of alkalines.
Then why didn't you say that? you could have said "plugpacks are 1000 times

more energy efficient than batteries" or perhaps even "plugpacks are 1000
times more environmentally friendly than batteries", but instead you said
they are 1000 times cheaper. Perhaps you need to brush up on your english
language skills, because 1000 times cheaper is simply a statement regarding
their price, it makes absolutely no statement about energy efficiency. You
made a blanket statement about the cost of batteries vs plugpacks, to which
I countered with an extreme example of where plugpacks are not cost
effective to batteries.

You have nothing to say on that point - so shut up.
You didn't have anything to say on that point previously either. But now

suddenly you change tune and start talking energy efficiency instead of
cost. I think the term is "squirming" is it not? As you have so soundly
proven your lack of cerebral ability, and i'm sure you will have great
difficulty in understanding what I have written, due to the use of words
containing more than 3 syllables, I will temporarily lower myself to your
standards for a final insult that hopefully you will understand:
Phil Allison, you are a stupid dickhead.

.......... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

"Mike Harding" <

Phil, next time you whine on about how you have been
insulted without reason in a thread... just remember
this post.

** So you are such a **collosal fuckhead** you cannot see the insult ??

Autism, autism autism .....



............ Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

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"Justin Thyme"


** WTF have rechargeables got to do with my point above
???????

You obviously missed the point

** Since there was not one.

You still don't understand it after I explained it to you? you must be
stupid.

** Get stuffed.

- hardly surprising - plugpacks aren't always
a suitable replacement for batteries because of the requirement to
have
mains power available. So, in a lot of circumstances, rechargeables
are
a better solution.



** Hey - fuckhead .

resorting to base language so quickly?

** You resorted to insult way back.

My point was about the massive energy inefficiency of alkalines.

Then why didn't you say that?

** Cos the **thread** was all about cost and energy capacity .........



you could have said "plugpacks are 1000 times

more energy efficient than batteries" or perhaps even "plugpacks are 1000
times more environmentally friendly than batteries", but instead you said
they are 1000 times cheaper.

** Which they are BECAUSE of efficiency !!!!


Perhaps you need to brush up on your english

language skills,

** More insults ....


because 1000 times cheaper is simply a statement regarding

their price, it makes absolutely no statement about energy efficiency.

** See above - fuckhead.

You made a blanket statement about the cost of batteries vs plugpacks,

** I made a simple statement of fact - asshole.

to which I countered with an extreme example of where plugpacks are not
cost
effective to batteries.

** Did you imagine even one person alive was unaware a plug pack needs AC
power ?????

Do you know what the word "specious " means ?????

You have nothing to say on that point - so shut up.

You didn't have anything to say on that point previously either. But now
suddenly you change tune and start talking energy efficiency instead of
cost.

** The two things are clearly linked - YOU missed that.

As you have so soundly proven your lack of cerebral ability, .....

** Go fuck your dog - moron.




............. Phil

 

[Zebulon Blah]

We had a bit of a discussion about AA alkaline cell
costs on here a few weeks ago.

This month's issue of ESR magazine has a detailed examination of
economies and performance of various AA cells. Among other
things there is a table showing cents-per-minute operating
costs of various AA batteries. It appears that Duracell is best
value for money.

Zeb

 

[Phil Allison]

"Zebulon Blah" <wanker@myrealbox.com>

We had a bit of a discussion about AA alkaline cell
costs on here a few weeks ago.


This month's issue of ESR magazine has a detailed examination of
economies and performance of various AA cells. Among other
things there is a table showing cents-per-minute operating
costs of various AA batteries. It appears that Duracell is best
value for money.

** In that case the tests are a total fraud.

Cells like the Digitor and even Eveready Gold offer FAR better
mAh per $.






........... Phil

 

[amstereo - matt2]

"Phil Allison" <philallison@optusnet.com.au> while in public ashamed himself
with these replies in this thread and is now trying to save face - wotta
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"Justin Thyme"


** WTF have rechargeables got to do with my point above
???????

You obviously missed the point

** Since there was not one.


You still don't understand it after I explained it to you? you must be
stupid.


** Get stuffed.



- hardly surprising - plugpacks aren't always
a suitable replacement for batteries because of the requirement to
have
mains power available. So, in a lot of circumstances, rechargeables
are
a better solution.



** Hey - fuckhead .

resorting to base language so quickly?

** You resorted to insult way back.


My point was about the massive energy inefficiency of alkalines.


Then why didn't you say that?


** Cos the **thread** was all about cost and energy capacity .........



you could have said "plugpacks are 1000 times
more energy efficient than batteries" or perhaps even "plugpacks are
1000
times more environmentally friendly than batteries", but instead you
said
they are 1000 times cheaper.


** Which they are BECAUSE of efficiency !!!!


Perhaps you need to brush up on your english
language skills,


** More insults ....


because 1000 times cheaper is simply a statement regarding
their price, it makes absolutely no statement about energy efficiency.


** See above - fuckhead.


You made a blanket statement about the cost of batteries vs plugpacks,


** I made a simple statement of fact - asshole.


to which I countered with an extreme example of where plugpacks are not
cost
effective to batteries.



** Did you imagine even one person alive was unaware a plug pack needs
AC
power ?????

Do you know what the word "specious " means ?????




You have nothing to say on that point - so shut up.


You didn't have anything to say on that point previously either. But now
suddenly you change tune and start talking energy efficiency instead of
cost.


** The two things are clearly linked - YOU missed that.


As you have so soundly proven your lack of cerebral ability, .....


** Go fuck your dog - moron.




............ Phil

 

[amstereo - matt2]

and are still the only way of powering up a device remotely, in the dark
away from external power sources.

plugpacks (transformers / switchmode psu's) are next to usless unless there
is something to insert them in to (sorry phil, ur ass isn't good enough,
though you may very well have tried).

you can also use wind up power sources, but the out come may not weigh up
against the required interaction.


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"Mike Harding" <mike_harding1@nixspamhotmail.com> wrote in message
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We had a bit of a discussion about AA alkaline cell
costs on here a few weeks ago. Farnell are currently
offering a pack of 500 Varta AA alkalines for about
$230 inc. GST and del. which works out at 46c per
cell - which is _cheap_. Varta are a good make and
I guess would have a capacity similar to Duracell
et al.

So if you use _lots_ of AA cells or can split the box
with 3 or 4 mates these could be a goof buy.

Farnell cat #7779-9493

**Jaycar's are cheaper. And you only have to buy 24. Dunno if they're
better, though.




** Using a plug pack adaptor is 1000 times cheaper than either.

**And 2,000 times better for the environment. AA batteries are alleged, in
production, to cost 2,000 times the energy they produce over their life.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

 

[Brian Goldsmith]

"amstereo - matt2" wrote about either primary or secondary cells,I'm not
really sure.



and are still the only way of powering up a device remotely, in the dark
away from external power sources.

**** Absolute crap which you proceed to prove in your next para.

you can also use wind up power sources, but the out come may not weigh
up
against the required interaction.

***** Why do you shoot your self off in public every time you touch a
keyboard?


Brian Goldsmith.

 

[amstereo - matt2]

wind up isn't a power source, it's tourcha
"Brian Goldsmith" <brian.goldsmith@nospamecho1.com.au> wrote in message
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"amstereo - matt2" wrote about either primary or secondary cells,I'm not
really sure.



and are still the only way of powering up a device remotely, in the dark
away from external power sources.

**** Absolute crap which you proceed to prove in your next para.

you can also use wind up power sources, but the out come may not weigh
up
against the required interaction.

***** Why do you shoot your self off in public every time you touch a
keyboard?


Brian Goldsmith.

 

[Mark van der Eynden]

"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote in message news:<3f8fbf2c$1@news.comindico.com.au>...

**And 2,000 times better for the environment. AA batteries are alleged, in
production, to cost 2,000 times the energy they produce over their life.

Why do people continue to repeat such obvious drivel?

If it cost 2,000 times the energy they produce over their life to make
then the production cost would be AT LEAST 2,000 times the cost of the
batteries they are intended to replace, which clearly they do not.

Cheers,

Mark

 

[Rod Speed]

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Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
Phil Allison" <philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote

Using a plug pack adaptor is 1000 times cheaper than either.

And 2,000 times better for the environment.
AA batteries are alleged, in production, to cost
2,000 times the energy they produce over their life.

Why do people continue to repeat such obvious drivel?

Yours is the obvious drivel.

If it cost 2,000 times the energy they produce over their life
to make then the production cost would be AT LEAST 2,000
times the cost of the batteries they are intended to replace,

He's clearly talking about the energy cost to produce AA batterys, stupid.

which clearly they do not.

Duh.