Changing Rooms

[Mark van der Eynden]

Rod's mention of changing rooms got to me.

All this hoo ha about people using Video phones in Changing
rooms.......

What if a changing room was enclosed in a 'Faraday Shield'?

Could an effective 'Faraday Shield' be made into 'wall paper' and
pasted on the walls of the changing rooms (and any other rooms for
that matter)?

QED?

Please send all royalties to me!?

Cheers,

Mark

 

[Phil Allison]

"Mark van der Eynden" <mvandere@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
news:48ed3358.0311051258.2ee49ef9@posting.google.com...

Rod's mention of changing rooms got to me.

All this hoo ha about people using Video phones in Changing
rooms.......

** Cannot the image from the camera can be stored for later transmission
?

If not in all models surely with some.

Kinda makes shielding a waste of effort.




........... Phil

 

[Rod Speed]

Mark van der Eynden <mvandere@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message news:48ed3358.0311051258.2ee49ef9@posting.google.com...

Rod's mention of changing rooms got to me.

You one of those perverts, boy ?

All this hoo ha about people using
Video phones in Changing rooms.......

What if a changing room was enclosed in a 'Faraday Shield'?

Presumably a properly designed mobile phone handset
would just keep the MMS and send it when it could
talk to the base again, outside the faraday cage.

Could an effective 'Faraday Shield' be made into
'wall paper' and pasted on the walls of the changing
rooms (and any other rooms for that matter)?

Yes, its not hard to ensure that a mobile phone
cant get a good enough signal in a particular area.

Happens all the time by accident in basements particularly.

QED?

WGYGAGF

Please send all royalties to me!?

Request denied. Your have been dobbed in to
the authoritys on your perverted behaviour tho.

I did mention that you're a moslem too.

 

[Arpit]

On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:39:55 +1100, "Phil Allison"
<philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

"Mark van der Eynden" <mvandere@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
news:48ed3358.0311051258.2ee49ef9@posting.google.com...
Rod's mention of changing rooms got to me.

All this hoo ha about people using Video phones in Changing
rooms.......


** Cannot the image from the camera can be stored for later transmission
?

If not in all models surely with some.

Kinda makes shielding a waste of effort.

PRecisely, i believe they are stored, and sending them is only an

option. Plus, what frequency do those thhings run at? what would the
amz perforation size in the shield be?

.......... Phil

 

[Arpit]

On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:56:11 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Mark van der Eynden <mvandere@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message news:48ed3358.0311051258.2ee49ef9@posting.google.com...

Rod's mention of changing rooms got to me.

You one of those perverts, boy ?

All this hoo ha about people using
Video phones in Changing rooms.......

What if a changing room was enclosed in a 'Faraday Shield'?

Presumably a properly designed mobile phone handset
would just keep the MMS and send it when it could
talk to the base again, outside the faraday cage.

Could an effective 'Faraday Shield' be made into
'wall paper' and pasted on the walls of the changing
rooms (and any other rooms for that matter)?

Yes, its not hard to ensure that a mobile phone
cant get a good enough signal in a particular area.

Happens all the time by accident in basements particularly.

yeah, i can get my phone down a few 'reception notches' by covering

the antenna in my hands

QED?

WGYGAGF

Please send all royalties to me!?

Request denied. Your have been dobbed in to
the authoritys on your perverted behaviour tho.

I did mention that you're a moslem too.

 

[The Real Andy]

I noticed in a paper somewhere the other day that phones have been banned in
public swimming pools cause the kiddy fidlers have been using them to take
happy snaps.


"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bocgr2$185vpt$1@ID-69072.news.uni-berlin.de...

Mark van der Eynden <mvandere@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
news:48ed3358.0311051258.2ee49ef9@posting.google.com...

Rod's mention of changing rooms got to me.

You one of those perverts, boy ?

All this hoo ha about people using
Video phones in Changing rooms.......

What if a changing room was enclosed in a 'Faraday Shield'?

Presumably a properly designed mobile phone handset
would just keep the MMS and send it when it could
talk to the base again, outside the faraday cage.

Could an effective 'Faraday Shield' be made into
'wall paper' and pasted on the walls of the changing
rooms (and any other rooms for that matter)?

Yes, its not hard to ensure that a mobile phone
cant get a good enough signal in a particular area.

Happens all the time by accident in basements particularly.

QED?

WGYGAGF

Please send all royalties to me!?

Request denied. Your have been dobbed in to
the authoritys on your perverted behaviour tho.

I did mention that you're a moslem too.

 

[amstereo - matt2]

Ultra bright IR Spot lights to wash the picture out will work. until they
put IR filters on the lense

 

[Alex Gibson]

"Mark van der Eynden" <mvandere@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message news:48ed3358.0311051258.2ee49ef9@posting.google.com...

Rod's mention of changing rooms got to me.

All this hoo ha about people using Video phones in Changing
rooms.......

What if a changing room was enclosed in a 'Faraday Shield'?

Could an effective 'Faraday Shield' be made into 'wall paper' and
pasted on the walls of the changing rooms (and any other rooms for
that matter)?

QED?

Please send all royalties to me!?

Cheers,

Mark

well the next thing is watch phones.
Being prototyped at the moment
(from the messages in comp.arch.embedded look for some of Lewin's posts).
Transmit via bluetooth or ir to other device.

you idea doesn't stop people saving the photos on to a device and sending them later.

Also blocking one frequency wouldn't work.
You would have to block all mobile phone and bluetooth frequencies.
And bluetooth has a range up to 100m depending on the device and antenna used.
Most phones and pda's have a bluetooth range of 10m.
Add on for computers and embedded boards up to 100m with small antenna.
Using directional antennas give around double that.

Having a door would defeat a faraday cage.
Or a more tunnel like entrance could act like a wave guide

Alex

 

[Rod Speed]

Alex Gibson <alxx/*nospam*/@@/*nospam*/ihug./*nospam*/com./remove/au>
wrote in message news:bof7p9$j0n$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...

Mark van der Eynden <mvandere@iprimus.com.au> wrote

Rod's mention of changing rooms got to me.

All this hoo ha about people using
Video phones in Changing rooms.......

What if a changing room was enclosed in a 'Faraday Shield'?

Could an effective 'Faraday Shield' be made into
'wall paper' and pasted on the walls of the changing
rooms (and any other rooms for that matter)?

QED?

Please send all royalties to me!?

well the next thing is watch phones.
Being prototyped at the moment
(from the messages in comp.arch.embedded look for some of Lewin's posts).
Transmit via bluetooth or ir to other device.

Concealable digital cameras have been around for a long time now.

They dont need to be able to transmit the picture
by RF to be useful in that particular situation.

you idea doesn't stop people saving the
photos on to a device and sending them later.

In fact that would normally be automatic.

Also blocking one frequency wouldn't work.
You would have to block all mobile phone and bluetooth frequencies.

A faraday cage would do that adequately.

Doesnt stop them being sent after you have left the cage tho.

And bluetooth has a range up to 100m depending on the device and
antenna used. Most phones and pda's have a bluetooth range of 10m.
Add on for computers and embedded boards up to 100m with
small antenna. Using directional antennas give around double that.

You dont need to bother with any of that with decent digital
cameras. Just take the pics, plug it into the PC after you leave etc.

Having a door would defeat a faraday cage.

Not necessarily with mobile phones. Plenty of places dont have
an adequate signal level inside them and they do have doors.

Or a more tunnel like entrance could act like a wave guide

Fantasy at those freqs.

 

[Mark van der Eynden]

mvandere@iprimus.com.au (Mark van der Eynden) wrote in message news:<48ed3358.0311051258.2ee49ef9@posting.google.com>...

What if a changing room was enclosed in a 'Faraday Shield'?

Okay, so the photos can be saved for later trasmission.

What if we put a micro(nano?) cell inside our 'Faraday Shield' with
the following programming....

Phone registered in cell?
Ring it
Goto Ring it
(You get the idea)

That will force the mongrels to turn their phones off. As an added
bonus, if they don't, everyone in the room will be aware there is a
phone around.

I suspect cells have a 'call all' facility for emergencies and what
not, if so this would enable an even more stripped down cell to be
used.

Cheers,

Mark

 

[Rod Speed]

Mark van der Eynden <mvandere@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message news:48ed3358.0311121255.47b794b9@posting.google.com...

mvandere@iprimus.com.au (Mark van der Eynden) wrote

What if a changing room was enclosed in a 'Faraday Shield'?

Okay, so the photos can be saved for later trasmission.

And any decent electronic camera that has nothing to do
with a mobile phone at all can always be used instead.

Completely trivial.

What if we put a micro(nano?) cell inside our
'Faraday Shield' with the following programming....

Anyone wanting to get some pics of naked
flesh etc will just use a digital camera, stupid.

Phone registered in cell?
Ring it
Goto Ring it
(You get the idea)

Pity it would be completely illegal and wouldnt work anyway.

That will force the mongrels to turn their phones off.

It would just force them to use a digital camera instead.

As an added bonus, if they don't, everyone in
the room will be aware there is a phone around.

Someone is absolutely guaranteed to dob you in to the ACA.

I suspect cells have a 'call all' facility
for emergencies and what not,

They dont.

if so this would enable an even more stripped down cell to be used.

Wouldnt achieve a damned thing, they'd just use a digital camera instead.

Wouldnt be hard to disable the mobile phone/camera
RF frontend while you're in the changing room either.
Just take the sim out would work just as well.