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Since microchips are such a small part of a car, how can the chip
shortage be affecting them? Won\'t they just pay more for the chips and
get them before other uses? Tripling the chip price in a car is nothing
compared to the whole car price.
On 30-06-2023 06:24, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Since microchips are such a small part of a car, how can the chip
shortage be affecting them? Won\'t they just pay more for the chips and
get them before other uses? Tripling the chip price in a car is nothing
compared to the whole car price.
Well, you can\'t just pay more and get it, if other customers has put in
orders/forecast.
Even a single IC that costs nothing can stop an entire car from rolling
off the assembly line.
On a sunny day (Fri, 30 Jun 2023 12:02:08 +0200) it happened Klaus Vestergaard
Kragelund <klauskvik@hotmail.com> wrote in <u7m970$2grre$1@dont-email.me>:
On 30-06-2023 06:24, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Since microchips are such a small part of a car, how can the chip
shortage be affecting them? Won\'t they just pay more for the chips and
get them before other uses? Tripling the chip price in a car is nothing
compared to the whole car price.
Well, you can\'t just pay more and get it, if other customers has put in
orders/forecast.
Even a single IC that costs nothing can stop an entire car from rolling
off the assembly line.
And so can one big EMP.
And the world comes to a standstill.
Horses!
Donkeys?
On 30-06-2023 06:24, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Since microchips are such a small part of a car, how can the chip
shortage be affecting them? Won\'t they just pay more for the chips and
get them before other uses? Tripling the chip price in a car is nothing
compared to the whole car price.
Well, you can\'t just pay more and get it, if other customers has put in
orders/forecast.
Even a single IC that costs nothing can stop an entire car from rolling
off the assembly line.
On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 11:02:08 +0100, Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund <klau...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 30-06-2023 06:24, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Since microchips are such a small part of a car, how can the chip
shortage be affecting them? Won\'t they just pay more for the chips and
get them before other uses? Tripling the chip price in a car is nothing
compared to the whole car price.
Well, you can\'t just pay more and get it, if other customers has put in
orders/forecast.
Even a single IC that costs nothing can stop an entire car from rolling
off the assembly line.
Nonsense. I make 1 million chips, you buy 500K of them to make cars. Fred buys 500K of them to make graphics cards.
Now I can only make 500K chips. One of you loses out. You pay me double, Fred loses out, simple. You can more easily pay me double, because the chips are a far smaller percentage of the cost of a car than a graphics card.
On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 3:31:03â¯AM UTC+10, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 11:02:08 +0100, Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund <klau....@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 30-06-2023 06:24, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Since microchips are such a small part of a car, how can the chip
shortage be affecting them? Won\'t they just pay more for the chips and
get them before other uses? Tripling the chip price in a car is nothing
compared to the whole car price.
Well, you can\'t just pay more and get it, if other customers has put in
orders/forecast.
Even a single IC that costs nothing can stop an entire car from rolling
off the assembly line.
Nonsense. I make 1 million chips, you buy 500K of them to make cars. Fred buys 500K of them to make graphics cards.
Now I can only make 500K chips. One of you loses out. You pay me double, Fred loses out, simple. You can more easily pay me double, because the chips are a far smaller percentage of the cost of a car than a graphics card.
Bit it\'s also easier to redesign the car to use a different chip or several smaller chips - a graphics card is much more of a one-trick pony.
søndag den 2. juli 2023 kl. 13.31.13 UTC+2 skrev Anthony William Sloman:
On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 3:31:03â¯AM UTC+10, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 11:02:08 +0100, Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund <klau....@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 30-06-2023 06:24, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Since microchips are such a small part of a car, how can the chip
shortage be affecting them? Won\'t they just pay more for the chips and
get them before other uses? Tripling the chip price in a car is nothing
compared to the whole car price.
Well, you can\'t just pay more and get it, if other customers has put in
orders/forecast.
Even a single IC that costs nothing can stop an entire car from rolling
off the assembly line.
Nonsense. I make 1 million chips, you buy 500K of them to make cars. Fred buys 500K of them to make graphics cards.
Now I can only make 500K chips. One of you loses out. You pay me double, Fred loses out, simple. You can more easily pay me double, because the chips are a far smaller percentage of the cost of a car than a graphics card.
Bit it\'s also easier to redesign the car to use a different chip or several smaller chips - a graphics card is much more of a one-trick pony.
you don\'t just change to a different mcu in a car either
On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 7:59:55â¯AM UTC-4, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
søndag den 2. juli 2023 kl. 13.31.13 UTC+2 skrev Anthony William Sloman:
On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 3:31:03â¯AM UTC+10, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 11:02:08 +0100, Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund <klau...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 30-06-2023 06:24, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Since microchips are such a small part of a car, how can the chip
shortage be affecting them? Won\'t they just pay more for the chips and
get them before other uses? Tripling the chip price in a car is nothing
compared to the whole car price.
Well, you can\'t just pay more and get it, if other customers has put in
orders/forecast.
Even a single IC that costs nothing can stop an entire car from rolling
off the assembly line.
Nonsense. I make 1 million chips, you buy 500K of them to make cars.. Fred buys 500K of them to make graphics cards.
Now I can only make 500K chips. One of you loses out. You pay me double, Fred loses out, simple. You can more easily pay me double, because the chips are a far smaller percentage of the cost of a car than a graphics card.
Bit it\'s also easier to redesign the car to use a different chip or several smaller chips - a graphics card is much more of a one-trick pony.
you don\'t just change to a different mcu in a car either
That\'s exactly what Tesla did.
søndag den 2. juli 2023 kl. 20.34.45 UTC+2 skrev Ricky:
On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 7:59:55â¯AM UTC-4, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
søndag den 2. juli 2023 kl. 13.31.13 UTC+2 skrev Anthony William Sloman:
On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 3:31:03â¯AM UTC+10, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 11:02:08 +0100, Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund <klau...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 30-06-2023 06:24, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Since microchips are such a small part of a car, how can the chip
shortage be affecting them? Won\'t they just pay more for the chips and
get them before other uses? Tripling the chip price in a car is nothing
compared to the whole car price.
Well, you can\'t just pay more and get it, if other customers has put in
orders/forecast.
Even a single IC that costs nothing can stop an entire car from rolling
off the assembly line.
Nonsense. I make 1 million chips, you buy 500K of them to make cars. Fred buys 500K of them to make graphics cards.
Now I can only make 500K chips. One of you loses out. You pay me double, Fred loses out, simple. You can more easily pay me double, because the chips are a far smaller percentage of the cost of a car than a graphics card.
Bit it\'s also easier to redesign the car to use a different chip or several smaller chips - a graphics card is much more of a one-trick pony.
you don\'t just change to a different mcu in a car either
That\'s exactly what Tesla did.
I\'ve sure it wasn\'t \"just change\" unless it was some arm soc running the touch screen and UI