Carrier Pidgeon beats Bigpond

[Phil Allison]

Hi to all,

who saw the ACA item tonight where a humble, grey, female pigeon with a
64MB memory chip tied to its leg was put in a race with Bigpond Dial Up
Internet to deliver that much data to a town 30 kilometres away ??

The pigeon won hands down.

ROTFLMAO.




.............. Phil

 

[Michael C]

lmao

"Phil Allison" <philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f684e2a$0$14560$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

Hi to all,

who saw the ACA item tonight where a humble, grey, female pigeon with
a
64MB memory chip tied to its leg was put in a race with Bigpond Dial Up
Internet to deliver that much data to a town 30 kilometres away ??

The pigeon won hands down.

ROTFLMAO.




............. Phil

 

[onestone]

Phil Allison wrote:

Hi to all,

who saw the ACA item tonight where a humble, grey, female pigeon with a
64MB memory chip tied to its leg was put in a race with Bigpond Dial Up
Internet to deliver that much data to a town 30 kilometres away ??

The pigeon won hands down.

ROTFLMAO.




............. Phil

I reckon a guy with a cleft stick could have beaten them, over an hour
before the message even started to download. Geez, Australia Post could
do better.

Al

 

[Tony Pearce]

"onestone" <onestone@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:nk1ab.108657$bo1.108603@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

I reckon a guy with a cleft stick could have beaten them, over an hour
before the message even started to download.

Which would of course have nothing to do with the dial up connection most of
us use even in the cities, not just Kyogle.
I wonder what they did before internet, let alone broad band?

TonyP.

 

[KLR]

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 13:38:03 +1000, "Tony Pearce"
<Tonyp@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

"onestone" <onestone@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:nk1ab.108657$bo1.108603@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
I reckon a guy with a cleft stick could have beaten them, over an hour
before the message even started to download.

Which would of course have nothing to do with the dial up connection most of
us use even in the cities, not just Kyogle.
I wonder what they did before internet, let alone broad band?

TonyP.


They would have sent stuff through the post on floppy or magnetic tape

- used the old 300 baud modems (if you were a real high tech
organisation) or used telex machine. For mail of course they would
just write/type it in a letter

 

[Tony Pearce]

"KLR" <kreed@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:29cimv4lkgk2smdn68vh3qpait2fk9hnil@4ax.com...

They would have sent stuff through the post on floppy or magnetic tape
- used the old 300 baud modems (if you were a real high tech
organisation) or used telex machine. For mail of course they would
just write/type it in a letter

Yep, but not those carrier pigeons?

TonyP.

 

[Clifford Heath]

Tony Pearce wrote:

I wonder what they did before internet, let alone broad band?

We used to say "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon
full of magtapes". I suppose now it'd be a 777 full of DVDs .
Yup, I did distributed software development by moving stuff over an
acoustic coupler, we used the compiler to do error detection

 

[Arpit]

Now just to fit a 100 spindle of cds over each leg.....

On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 22:06:45 +1000, "Phil Allison"
<philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

Hi to all,

who saw the ACA item tonight where a humble, grey, female pigeon with a
64MB memory chip tied to its leg was put in a race with Bigpond Dial Up
Internet to deliver that much data to a town 30 kilometres away ??

The pigeon won hands down.

ROTFLMAO.




............. Phil

 

[Franc Zabkar]

On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 18:01:55 GMT, onestone <onestone@bigpond.net.au>
put finger to keyboard and composed:

Phil Allison wrote:

Hi to all,

who saw the ACA item tonight where a humble, grey, female pigeon with a
64MB memory chip tied to its leg was put in a race with Bigpond Dial Up
Internet to deliver that much data to a town 30 kilometres away ??

The pigeon won hands down.

ROTFLMAO.




............. Phil



I reckon a guy with a cleft stick could have beaten them, over an hour
before the message even started to download. Geez, Australia Post could
do better.

Well, you must have a better postie than me. Mine has spatial
difficulties. For some reason she thinks that a mail article the size
of a Readers Digest can't fit through a 200mm x 30mm aperture.

As for Bigpond, I can't comment on their rural performance except to
say that a typical metropolitan dialup, with any decent ISP, would
give a throughput for compressed files of the order of 5KBps. Assuming
the 64MB chip was full, then an average dialup connection would
require about 3.6 hours to tranmsit this much data. This means that a
pigeon would need to fly at only 10kph to beat it.


- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 's' from my address when replying by email.

 

[Meg]

Tony Pearce wrote:

Which would of course have nothing to do with the dial up connection most of
us use even in the cities, not just Kyogle.
I wonder what they did before internet, let alone broad band?

I have joyful memories of posting disks about the place taped to bits of
cardboard and cassette tapes wrapped in alfoil as well. I could get a
disk to melbourne in 2 days but it took 3 days for a disk to make it
back to me.

It wasn't that difficult, things just happened more slowly and you
appreciated it a lot more when you got it.

CoCoOz and Austin Rainbow were just fantastic at the time.

Megan

 

[CyBorg 0091]

Clifford Heath wrote:

Tony Pearce wrote:

I wonder what they did before internet, let alone broad band?


We used to say "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon
full of magtapes". I suppose now it'd be a 777 full of DVDs .
Yup, I did distributed software development by moving stuff over an
acoustic coupler, we used the compiler to do error detection

this is what I do.
It is cheaper an faster to take a 40gig Hardrive 100km than transfer it
through any line.
It would be more easy if we could setup out own privite links but thanks
to the Communications act I must bye stuff off telstra or pay for
hardware that is not needed but standardised on Helstras network then
pay to intergrate my Hardware to their network hence get charged for
every Octet that goes into their pipes,which I would have to supply the
hole world with data and communications to be able to not be Bankcrupt
for transfering the 40gig.

I bumped into Microwave being used in the US large scale a while back
then found out recently we use Microwave here(thought it would be out
lawed) which can do 50mbps over 40miles between repeaters and now I am
really spinning out.(just the other day I found we had this used in
Australia and in some areas links in bigger scale )
The hole of Australia could have broadband(fast) if someone called
helstra did not write the communications act.

I have now a LARGE Sea traveling Optic cable 2km from my house and on
the other side a giant Microwave link less than 5 km away.
The area will never see broadband and there is not a thing I can do
about it.
Believe me I have tried for two years to open the full rural area to
1mbps residential connections in my state to try to suggest they were
all nutcases.
Its too easy,its been done in areas where there is room for competition
like the US.
I can do our area with my stuff for less than $25,000 excluding a link
into a data pipe.
250sq km of Broadband in the middle of the bush.
Costs helstra $25,000 to think about moving with all the cisco
consultants they have to hire.

 

On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 22:06:45 +1000, "Phil Allison"
<philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

Hi to all,

who saw the ACA item tonight where a humble, grey, female pigeon with a
64MB memory chip tied to its leg was put in a race with Bigpond Dial Up
Internet to deliver that much data to a town 30 kilometres away ??

The pigeon won hands down.

ROTFLMAO.

You even get a free meal with each download.

 

[tony.r]

yes the pigeon was pregnant also.

A pregnant, carrier pigeon beats Telstra, might get a job offer out of this
media stunt, wont download porn at work and will happily accept chicken feed
for pay.

Sounds like a perfect Exce Officer.
Teach the board the art of flight.

tony.r
plant the seed

 

[Franc Zabkar]

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:56:55 GMT, "tony.r" <tony.r@ncable.com.au> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

yes the pigeon was pregnant also.

A pregnant, carrier pigeon beats Telstra, might get a job offer out of this
media stunt, wont download porn at work and will happily accept chicken feed
for pay.

Sounds like a perfect Exce Officer.

Would the pigeon be entitled to maternity leave?

Teach the board the art of flight.

tony.r
plant the seed

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 's' from my address when replying by email.

 

[Robert Backhaus]

Yes, a nice stunt.

However, if the task was to transfer 64MB between towns, I would consider
snail-
mailing a flash chip to be a reasonable choice. Personally, i would not
attempt it on dial-up.

but then I do download a FreeBSD .iso every few months....

Hi to all,

who saw the ACA item tonight where a humble, grey, female pigeon with
a
64MB memory chip tied to its leg was put in a race with Bigpond Dial Up
Internet to deliver that much data to a town 30 kilometres away ??

The pigeon won hands down.

ROTFLMAO.

 

[Tony Pearce]

"Robert Backhaus" <robbak@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f711a1f@news.comindico.com.au...

Yes, a nice stunt.

However, if the task was to transfer 64MB between towns, I would consider
snail-
mailing a flash chip to be a reasonable choice. Personally, i would not
attempt it on dial-up.

I usually just snail mail a CDRom. 700 Mbyte for $2 including disk, packing
and postage.

TonyP.

 

[Rod Speed]

Tony Pearce <Tonyp@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f713584$0$10355$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

Robert Backhaus <robbak@dodo.com.au> wrote

However, if the task was to transfer 64MB between towns,
I would consider snail-mailing a flash chip to be a reasonable
choice. Personally, i would not attempt it on dial-up.

I usually just snail mail a CDRom. 700 Mbyte
for $2 including disk, packing and postage.

You'll find they can be posted for 50c if you just
have a single bit of thickish cardboard on one side.

So a total cost of $1 is easy.

 

[Andrew Howard]

"Phil Allison" wrote in message...

Hi to all,

who saw the ACA item tonight where a humble, grey, female pigeon with
a
64MB memory chip tied to its leg was put in a race with Bigpond Dial Up
Internet to deliver that much data to a town 30 kilometres away ??

The pigeon won hands down.

Unfortunately, there are a couple of problems with this test. Sure it's good
for the fun value, but has no real worth.
Why couldn't you just strap a couple of dvds. Even cable, regardless of ISP,
would have trouble trying to download this much in the time that was not
specified.
Besides, the test could have been done with Optus, or whatever, with the
same results.

Andrew Howard

 

[Phil Allison]

"Andrew Howard" <andtfoot@hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:rVKnb.169584$bo1.120445@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

"Phil Allison" wrote in message...
Hi to all,

who saw the ACA item tonight where a humble, grey, female pigeon
with
a 64MB memory chip tied to its leg was put in a race with Bigpond Dial Up
Internet to deliver that much data to a town 30 kilometres away ??

The pigeon won hands down.

Unfortunately, there are a couple of problems with this test. Sure it's
good
for the fun value, but has no real worth.

** You did not see the item so cannot say.

Why couldn't you just strap a couple of dvds.

** Huh ? To a pigeon ?


Even cable, regardless of ISP,

would have trouble trying to download this much in the time that was not
specified.

** The memory module was not by any means full of data - just a few
emails IIRC.

Besides, the test could have been done with Optus, or whatever, with the
same results.

** Since there is only one set of phone lines in the area - naturally.



............ Phil

 

[CyBorg 0091]

Ya but Optus don't sit there stroking over how they have the whole of rural
Australia fucked right up with Government garbage.



"Andrew Howard" <andtfoot@hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:rVKnb.169584$bo1.120445@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

"Phil Allison" wrote in message...
Hi to all,

who saw the ACA item tonight where a humble, grey, female pigeon
with
a
64MB memory chip tied to its leg was put in a race with Bigpond Dial Up
Internet to deliver that much data to a town 30 kilometres away ??

The pigeon won hands down.


Unfortunately, there are a couple of problems with this test. Sure it's
good
for the fun value, but has no real worth.
Why couldn't you just strap a couple of dvds. Even cable, regardless of
ISP,
would have trouble trying to download this much in the time that was not
specified.
Besides, the test could have been done with Optus, or whatever, with the
same results.

Andrew Howard