Car Battery Charger for long term storage

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Mike Davids

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Hi,

I have a car that stays is storage for the most part of the year, and would
like advice on preservation of the battery.

I use a 50 AH Sealed Lead Acid battery.

What I was after was advice on the best type of commercially available
charger, and where to purchase it.

Thanks,
Mike.
 
"Mike Davids" <mdavids@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bqmf6t$24mpqi$1@ID-214836.news.uni-berlin.de...
| Hi,
|
| I have a car that stays is storage for the most part of the year, and
would
| like advice on preservation of the battery.
|
| I use a 50 AH Sealed Lead Acid battery.
|
| What I was after was advice on the best type of commercially available
| charger, and where to purchase it.
|
| Thanks,
| Mike.
|
|

While I'm about it - what's the best for me to do when I get back home to a
flat battery from standing since middle of March this year.
In March I disconnected the battery and left it in the car - it's temperate
climate (20 ~ 25 C).

Should I just jump start the car so that I can use it straight away, and
then leave the charger on when I stop, and obviously when I store the car
again - or should I be patient and let it slow charge for a day or two?
 
Get a charger with a "Full/Float" switch. Charge on Full then switch to
Float and leave it on that setting all the time it's in store. On float the
voltage is reduced slightly which stops the electrolyte "boiling off" -
which it would do if left on Full all the time.

It's worth checking after a few days (a week?) that the battery isn't
fizzing away as sometimes the float voltage is set a shade too high. On my
charger there is an internal adjustment for the float voltage but you need
to take care because there are hazardous voltages inside. The proceedure for
adjusting is to reduce it slightly then wait a day ot two to see if the
battery has calmed down.

I have a 5 year old battery that has been on float charge most of those 5
years (and it still is now).

If your charger only has a "Trickle" setting check the manual. That might
not be the same as "Float".

My charger was about Ł28 ($37) in the UK - five years ago.

The battery you let go flat may well be dead or have much reduced capacity
The fastest way to kill a lead acid cell is to leave it flat for any length
of time. In which case it probably doesn't matter how you treat it now. I
would put in on a normal charge but perhaps someone else will tell us how to
recover a dead battery correctly.

Colin


"Mike Davids" <mdavids@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Mike Davids" <mdavids@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bqmf6t$24mpqi$1@ID-214836.news.uni-berlin.de...
| Hi,
|
| I have a car that stays is storage for the most part of the year, and
would
| like advice on preservation of the battery.
|
| I use a 50 AH Sealed Lead Acid battery.
|
| What I was after was advice on the best type of commercially available
| charger, and where to purchase it.
|
| Thanks,
| Mike.
|
|

While I'm about it - what's the best for me to do when I get back home to
a
flat battery from standing since middle of March this year.
In March I disconnected the battery and left it in the car - it's
temperate
climate (20 ~ 25 C).

Should I just jump start the car so that I can use it straight away, and
then leave the charger on when I stop, and obviously when I store the car
again - or should I be patient and let it slow charge for a day or two?
Click to expand...
 
"Mike Davids" <mdavids@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi,

I have a car that stays is storage for the most part of the year, and would
like advice on preservation of the battery.

I use a 50 AH Sealed Lead Acid battery.

What I was after was advice on the best type of commercially available
charger, and where to purchase it.

Thanks,
Mike.
Click to expand...
If the vehicle is stored where sunlight is available, one of the small solar
trickle chargers might be a good choice. The battery might not be at full
charge, but would be usable and the ongoing costs are zero ;-)

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In article <bqmf6t$24mpqi$1@ID-214836.news.uni-berlin.de>,
mdavids@yahoo.com mentioned...
Hi,

I have a car that stays is storage for the most part of the year, and would
like advice on preservation of the battery.

I use a 50 AH Sealed Lead Acid battery.

What I was after was advice on the best type of commercially available
charger, and where to purchase it.

Thanks,
Mike.
Click to expand...
SLA batteries are float charged. They lose their capacity to the
point where they have to be replaced after 5 years.


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In article <W6Gzb.59878$Yy6.2051102@phobos.telenet-ops.be>,
colin.watters@pandoraBOX.be mentioned...
Get a charger with a "Full/Float" switch. Charge on Full then switch to
Float and leave it on that setting all the time it's in store. On float the
voltage is reduced slightly which stops the electrolyte "boiling off" -
which it would do if left on Full all the time.

It's worth checking after a few days (a week?) that the battery isn't
fizzing away as sometimes the float voltage is set a shade too high. On my
Click to expand...
Well, he said it's a SLA, and they're sealed, so I don't think you can
check the electrolyte.

charger there is an internal adjustment for the float voltage but you need
to take care because there are hazardous voltages inside. The proceedure for
adjusting is to reduce it slightly then wait a day ot two to see if the
battery has calmed down.

I have a 5 year old battery that has been on float charge most of those 5
years (and it still is now).

If your charger only has a "Trickle" setting check the manual. That might
not be the same as "Float".

My charger was about Ł28 ($37) in the UK - five years ago.

The battery you let go flat may well be dead or have much reduced capacity
The fastest way to kill a lead acid cell is to leave it flat for any length
of time. In which case it probably doesn't matter how you treat it now. I
would put in on a normal charge but perhaps someone else will tell us how to
recover a dead battery correctly.

Colin


"Mike Davids" <mdavids@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bqmk5s$23db7q$1@ID-214836.news.uni-berlin.de...

"Mike Davids" <mdavids@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bqmf6t$24mpqi$1@ID-214836.news.uni-berlin.de...
| Hi,
|
| I have a car that stays is storage for the most part of the year, and
would
| like advice on preservation of the battery.
|
| I use a 50 AH Sealed Lead Acid battery.
|
| What I was after was advice on the best type of commercially available
| charger, and where to purchase it.
|
| Thanks,
| Mike.
|
|

While I'm about it - what's the best for me to do when I get back home to
a
flat battery from standing since middle of March this year.
In March I disconnected the battery and left it in the car - it's
temperate
climate (20 ~ 25 C).

Should I just jump start the car so that I can use it straight away, and
then leave the charger on when I stop, and obviously when I store the car
again - or should I be patient and let it slow charge for a day or two?
Click to expand...

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"Watson A.Name - Watt Sun, Dark Remover" wrote:
In article <bqmf6t$24mpqi$1@ID-214836.news.uni-berlin.de>,
mdavids@yahoo.com mentioned...
Hi,

I have a car that stays is storage for the most part of the year, and would
like advice on preservation of the battery.

I use a 50 AH Sealed Lead Acid battery.

What I was after was advice on the best type of commercially available
charger, and where to purchase it.

Thanks,
Mike.

SLA batteries are float charged. They lose their capacity to the
point where they have to be replaced after 5 years.
Click to expand...

I have several dozen 2v, 5 AH cells made by Gates in the early 1970's
that are still in use. Dunno, quantitatively, how much time has
decreased their capacity but they do have spunk. For a while during the
NE blackout earlier this year I illuminated my livingroom with them and
an auto headlight pointed at the ceiling. I have three Gates 2v 25 AH
"Cyclon" cells that I got 2nd-hand back in the early 80's and they
continue to serve. Used to have 6 of them but three died after I let
them sit too long.
 
As I described in another recent message, I've had very good luck using a
24 hour appliance timer to control a standard battery charger. Set the
timer to turn the charger on for its minimum time (usually 15 minutes) every
day. It tops off the battery without overcharging it. Seems like it should
work for a SLA battery too.

I use this method to keep my garden tractor battery alive over the winter.
I think I'm on the 3rd winter for my current battery. Just have to check the
electrolyte level from time to time.

Neil Preston.

"Mike Davids" <mdavids@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bqmf6t$24mpqi$1@ID-214836.news.uni-berlin.de...
Hi,

I have a car that stays is storage for the most part of the year, and
would
like advice on preservation of the battery.

I use a 50 AH Sealed Lead Acid battery.

What I was after was advice on the best type of commercially available
charger, and where to purchase it.

Thanks,
Mike.
Click to expand...
 
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