Capacity of Duracell AA cell versus NiMH

[TokaMundo]

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 18:45:54 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
<dave@davenoise.co.uk> Gave us:

In article <hqd9g1h1uoavvmd313vqf5lcgp3526sten@4ax.com>,
TokaMundo <TokaMundo@weedizgood.org> wrote:
Tea is for intelligent folk. More than a cup of coffee a day can do
your body quite a bit of harm.

I should be dead, then, given I drink about 8 per day. And mugs, not cups.

My mom thought so too. The doc told her 6 a day was too much, and
she cut down to about two a day.

You won't be dead, but you probably stink pretty bad, and will lean
toward things like hiatal hernias and the like.

 

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article <2jv9g15dq3ppraghhc7dr62shrdlip71ie@4ax.com>,
TokaMundo <TokaMundo@weedizgood.org> wrote:

In article <hqd9g1h1uoavvmd313vqf5lcgp3526sten@4ax.com>,
TokaMundo <TokaMundo@weedizgood.org> wrote:
Tea is for intelligent folk. More than a cup of coffee a day can do
your body quite a bit of harm.

I should be dead, then, given I drink about 8 per day. And mugs, not
cups.

My mom thought so too. The doc told her 6 a day was too much, and she
cut down to about two a day.

You won't be dead, but you probably stink pretty bad, and will lean
toward things like hiatal hernias and the like.

This message brought to you by the 'tea bag in a cup corporation of the US
of A'.

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[Michael A. Terrell]

Baxter wrote:

Well, there's some of us Americans that appreciate good tea. Do note that
Portland (OR) has at least two tea companies creating their own blends of
tea (Tazo, The Tao of Tea), and several teahouses. (note that Starbucks now
owns and sells Tazo).

Personally, loose tea is better than tea bag tea - though there are some
very good bagged teas (like from Tazo). Twinnings tea is utter crap - on a
scale of 1 to 10, Twinnings Oolong is a -2.

Lipton loose black tea is ok for every-day use, but I can get just as good
black tea at a local Asian market for less than a quarter of the price of
Lipton.

have you ever tried Sassafras tea?

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after threats were telephoned to my church.

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Central Florida

 

[Baxter]

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:430563E6.597D5BF9@earthlink.net...

Baxter wrote:

Well, there's some of us Americans that appreciate good tea. Do note
that
Portland (OR) has at least two tea companies creating their own blends
of
tea (Tazo, The Tao of Tea), and several teahouses. (note that Starbucks
now
owns and sells Tazo).

Personally, loose tea is better than tea bag tea - though there are some
very good bagged teas (like from Tazo). Twinnings tea is utter crap -
on a
scale of 1 to 10, Twinnings Oolong is a -2.

Lipton loose black tea is ok for every-day use, but I can get just as
good
black tea at a local Asian market for less than a quarter of the price
of
Lipton.


have you ever tried Sassafras tea?

Yep. Reminds one of Root Beer. I think I have some in my cupboard - but

it's too old and has lost its flavor.

Have you tried Jasmine Pearls? I usually make a large pot - 40% Jasmine
Pearls, 60% loose black tea. Pour in the boiling water and watch the Pearls
unwind. Taste is at least twice as good as what you get at the best
oriental restaurant.

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[Michael A. Terrell]

Baxter wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:430563E6.597D5BF9@earthlink.net...

have you ever tried Sassafras tea?

Yep. Reminds one of Root Beer. I think I have some in my cupboard - but
it's too old and has lost its flavor.

For real sassafras tea you go out early in the morning with an ax,
and find the sassafras plant. You cut off some of the roots, rinse the
dirt off and use a very sharp knife to shave thin layers off, then boil
the root in a tea pot. It was one of the best things about visiting my
grandparent's farm as a kid. It was even beter when the sap was down in
the roots for winter, and the flavor was at its best. After that, I
have never really liked any other teas.

Have you tried Jasmine Pearls? I usually make a large pot - 40% Jasmine
Pearls, 60% loose black tea. Pour in the boiling water and watch the Pearls
unwind. Taste is at least twice as good as what you get at the best
oriental restaurant.

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after threats were telephoned to my church.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su]

"Baxter" <lbax02.spamguard@baxcode.com> wrote in message
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"Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com
wrote
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"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4d9bd64a4cdave@davenoise.co.uk...
In article <11g5tq226929o86@corp.supernews.com>,
"Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun wrote:
But then most tea is bought in teabags, so teapots
seem to be getting rare...

You can still use tea bags in a teapot. The idea of putting one in
a
cup
is much newer than tea bags themselves, and a disgusting way of
making
proper tea.

Well, I get the feeling that anything having to do with tea here in
the
'states' hasn't agreed with Brits since we dumped it overboard into
the
Boston harbor. ;-)

Now the big kick here is to promote green tea as having healing
capabilities because of the antioxidants in it. As far as I can
see,
it'd take at least a gallon of it a day to do any good.

I don't drink either, but I also get the feeling that most 'Merkins
drink coffee and think that tea is for sissies.


Well, there's some of us Americans that appreciate good tea. Do note
that
Portland (OR) has at least two tea companies creating their own blends
of
tea (Tazo, The Tao of Tea), and several teahouses. (note that
Starbucks now
owns and sells Tazo).

Personally, loose tea is better than tea bag tea - though there are
some
very good bagged teas (like from Tazo). Twinnings tea is utter crap -
on a
scale of 1 to 10, Twinnings Oolong is a -2.

Lipton loose black tea is ok for every-day use, but I can get just as
good
black tea at a local Asian market for less than a quarter of the
price of
Lipton.

One of the ladies at work is from Hong Kong, and brought back a round
donut sized cake of tea from there. She gave it to me and I gave it to
my cow-orker, and told her that she should only use a pinch of it. She
didnm't listen, and used a more generous amount and learned her lesson.
It was waaaay too strong!

> --

 

[daestrom]

"Sammy" <noone@no-where.com> wrote in message
news:96B397B4678021A7D4@204.153.244.156...

How does the capacity of a Duracell-brand AA cell (Duracell ordinary
or Duracell ultra) compare to one of the high-capacity NiMH cells (eg
2100 mAh)?


I am assuming, of course, that any applicance using the cells would
work down to the 1.2 volts of the NiMH.

Well, all questions of 'tea' left aside, this is what I've found out from
research/usage.

If you compare two 'fresh' batteries, one alkaline and one NiMH, you'll find
that the NiMH has a much higher capacity. But the NiMH *also* have a much
higher self-discharge rate. If the application uses power at anything like
the 20-hour discharge rate, the NiMH will win hands down. But if the
application is on the order of 'several-month' rate, the self-discharge of
the NiMH will be a bigger 'draw' on the battery capacity than the
application. So the alkaline battery wins.

daestrom
P.S. of course NiMH are rechargable, whereas alkaline are not.

 

[Chris Jones]

Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover" wrote:
[snip]

I don't drink either, but I also get the feeling that most 'Merkins
drink coffee and think that tea is for sissies.
[snip]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkin

You learn something new every day!

 

[Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su]

"daestrom" <daestrom@NO_SPAM_HEREtwcny.rr.com> wrote in message
news:V_HNe.22521$Hx4.11934@twister.nyroc.rr.com...

"Sammy" <noone@no-where.com> wrote in message
news:96B397B4678021A7D4@204.153.244.156...
How does the capacity of a Duracell-brand AA cell (Duracell ordinary
or Duracell ultra) compare to one of the high-capacity NiMH cells
(eg
2100 mAh)?


I am assuming, of course, that any applicance using the cells would
work down to the 1.2 volts of the NiMH.

Well, all questions of 'tea' left aside, this is what I've found out
from
research/usage.

If you compare two 'fresh' batteries, one alkaline and one NiMH,
you'll find
that the NiMH has a much higher capacity. But the NiMH *also* have a
much
higher self-discharge rate. If the application uses power at anything
like
the 20-hour discharge rate, the NiMH will win hands down. But if the
application is on the order of 'several-month' rate, the
self-discharge of
the NiMH will be a bigger 'draw' on the battery capacity than the
application. So the alkaline battery wins.

daestrom
P.S. of course NiMH are rechargable, whereas alkaline are not.

Well, alkalines _are_ rechargeable, as you can see if you buy the
Rayovac Renewal rechargeable alkalines. They do recharge, but in my
experience, they don't get very many charges before the capacity is
greatly diminished.

 

[Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su]

"Chris Jones" <lugnut808@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:11genpecpn9ncf5@corp.supernews.com...

Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover" wrote:
[snip]
I don't drink either, but I also get the feeling that most 'Merkins
drink coffee and think that tea is for sissies.
[snip]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkin

You learn something new every day!

Too late - that's already been brought to the attention of the readers a
number of times in the last few years.

 

[raden]

In message <hqd9g1h1uoavvmd313vqf5lcgp3526sten@4ax.com>, TokaMundo
<TokaMundo@weedizgood.org> writes

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 06:02:45 -0700, "Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, the
Dark Remover\"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> Gave us:


"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4d9bd64a4cdave@davenoise.co.uk...
In article <11g5tq226929o86@corp.supernews.com>,
"Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun wrote:
But then most tea is bought in teabags, so teapots
seem to be getting rare...

You can still use tea bags in a teapot. The idea of putting one in a
cup
is much newer than tea bags themselves, and a disgusting way of making
proper tea.

Well, I get the feeling that anything having to do with tea here in the
'states' hasn't agreed with Brits since we dumped it overboard into the
Boston harbor. ;-)

Now the big kick here is to promote green tea as having healing
capabilities because of the antioxidants in it. As far as I can see,
it'd take at least a gallon of it a day to do any good.

There are more antioxidants in chocolate. Red wine is a good one as
well.

ALSO... HEMP SEEDS! Quite a bit actually. Let's see...

Maybe, but the ones I scattered in the front garden of the magistrates'
court a couple of years ago failed to germinate

What a waste


--
geoff

 

[raden]

In message <2jv9g15dq3ppraghhc7dr62shrdlip71ie@4ax.com>, TokaMundo
<TokaMundo@weedizgood.org> writes

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 18:45:54 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
dave@davenoise.co.uk> Gave us:

In article <hqd9g1h1uoavvmd313vqf5lcgp3526sten@4ax.com>,
TokaMundo <TokaMundo@weedizgood.org> wrote:
Tea is for intelligent folk. More than a cup of coffee a day can do
your body quite a bit of harm.

I should be dead, then, given I drink about 8 per day. And mugs, not cups.

My mom thought so too. The doc told her 6 a day was too much, and
she cut down to about two a day.

You won't be dead, but you probably stink pretty bad, and will lean
toward things like hiatal hernias and the like.

I bet you wear eye protection when mixing NaOH too ...


--
geoff

 

[John Savage]

"daestrom" <daestrom@NO_SPAM_HEREtwcny.rr.com> writes:

"Sammy" <noone@no-where.com> wrote in message
news:96B397B4678021A7D4@204.153.244.156...
How does the capacity of a Duracell-brand AA cell (Duracell ordinary
or Duracell ultra) compare to one of the high-capacity NiMH cells (eg
2100 mAh)?

If you compare two 'fresh' batteries, one alkaline and one NiMH, you'll find
that the NiMH has a much higher capacity. But the NiMH *also* have a much
higher self-discharge rate. If the application uses power at anything like
the 20-hour discharge rate, the NiMH will win hands down. But if the

AA Batteries

ANS2300 - NiMH - 1.2V - 2300 mAh (Ansmann)

ANS2400 - NiMH - 1.2V - 2400 mAh (Ansmann)
RB102746 - NiMH - 1.2V - 2300 mAh (Uniross)

RB100880 - NiCd - 1.2V - 800 mAh (Uniross)
RB104358 - NiMH - 1.2V - 2500 mAh (Uniross)

4106 - Alkaline - 1.5V - 2600 mAh (Varta)
MN1500 - Alkaline - 1.5V - 2700 mAh (Duracell)

e2 lithium - 2900 mAh (Energizer)
alkaline copper top - 2850 mAh (Duracell)

NiMH are quickly catching up with alkaline primaries.
--
John Savage (my news address is not valid for email)

 

[Charlie+]

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 01:27:22 GMT, John Savage
<rookswood@suburbian.com.au> wrote as underneath my scribble :

Only in some applications, self discharge I think is about 20%
in the first 7 days for NiMh cells and is very temperature dependant
if you store them warm after charge you can lose 50% in 7 days quite
easily, and loss rate is higher for the higher capacity cells.
Charlie+

NiMH are quickly catching up with alkaline primaries.