Canon A420 camera

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I have a three year old Canon A420 which has been working perfectly
until last week. Now pictures are coming out grossly over-exposed,
although they look satisfactory on the LCD screen right up to the point
where the release button is pressed.

Moving from light to dark subjects, the system adjusts the image on the
screen to the changes in light level in a normal manner. Holding the
release button half way down 'freezes' a satisfactory picture, but then,
after pressing it the rest of the way, the stored result is whited-out.

The storage card appears to work normally and an external card reader
allows me to store and retrieve other images undamaged.

By deliberately choosing dark subject matter or something which needs
flash, I can force the correct exposure. The picture then appears to
have a fine horizontal line structure imposed on it.


I have re-set the camera by removing both power and memory batteriea,
and fitted new batteries, but it makes no difference.

The camera has not been dropped or exposed to damp, although it was
recently subjected to unusually cold conditions whilst taking snow
photographs. The rotary function selector switch became very stiff and
then eased-up suddenly just when the fault appeared - but I do not see
any obvious connection between the two events.

Does the switch have multiple contacts? Any other suggestions?

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On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 18:34:00 +0000, Adrian Tuddenham wrote:

I have a three year old Canon A420 which has been working perfectly
until last week. Now pictures are coming out grossly over-exposed,
although they look satisfactory on the LCD screen right up to the point
where the release button is pressed.

Moving from light to dark subjects, the system adjusts the image on the
screen to the changes in light level in a normal manner. Holding the
release button half way down 'freezes' a satisfactory picture, but then,
after pressing it the rest of the way, the stored result is whited-out.

The storage card appears to work normally and an external card reader
allows me to store and retrieve other images undamaged.

By deliberately choosing dark subject matter or something which needs
flash, I can force the correct exposure. The picture then appears to
have a fine horizontal line structure imposed on it.


I have re-set the camera by removing both power and memory batteriea,
and fitted new batteries, but it makes no difference.

The camera has not been dropped or exposed to damp, although it was
recently subjected to unusually cold conditions whilst taking snow
photographs. The rotary function selector switch became very stiff and
then eased-up suddenly just when the fault appeared - but I do not see
any obvious connection between the two events.

Does the switch have multiple contacts? Any other suggestions?
Click to expand...
Find someone who can repair it for less than a new camera would cost.



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Is this in all modes - Auto, Program, etc?



"Adrian Tuddenham" <adrian@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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I have a three year old Canon A420 which has been working perfectly
until last week. Now pictures are coming out grossly over-exposed,
although they look satisfactory on the LCD screen right up to the point
where the release button is pressed.

Moving from light to dark subjects, the system adjusts the image on the
screen to the changes in light level in a normal manner. Holding the
release button half way down 'freezes' a satisfactory picture, but then,
after pressing it the rest of the way, the stored result is whited-out.

The storage card appears to work normally and an external card reader
allows me to store and retrieve other images undamaged.

By deliberately choosing dark subject matter or something which needs
flash, I can force the correct exposure. The picture then appears to
have a fine horizontal line structure imposed on it.


I have re-set the camera by removing both power and memory batteriea,
and fitted new batteries, but it makes no difference.

The camera has not been dropped or exposed to damp, although it was
recently subjected to unusually cold conditions whilst taking snow
photographs. The rotary function selector switch became very stiff and
then eased-up suddenly just when the fault appeared - but I do not see
any obvious connection between the two events.

Does the switch have multiple contacts? Any other suggestions?

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On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 18:34:00 +0000, adrian@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Adrian Tuddenham) wrote:

I have a three year old Canon A420 which has been working perfectly
until last week.
Click to expand...
The warranty on the Canon A420 is 3 years. You might check with Canon
if it's still under warranty and can be fixed for free.
<http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/support/consumer/digital_cameras/powershot_a_series/powershot_a420>
<http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer?pageKeyCode=repairLanding>


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On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 14:01:23 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 18:34:00 +0000, adrian@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Adrian Tuddenham) wrote:

I have a three year old Canon A420 which has been working perfectly
until last week.

The warranty on the Canon A420 is 3 years. You might check with Canon
if it's still under warranty and can be fixed for free.
http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/support/consumer/digital_cameras/powershot_a_series/powershot_a420
http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer?pageKeyCode=repairLanding
Click to expand...
Never mind. The original Canon warranty is only 1 year. Some dealers
offered 3 year warranties if you buy from them. Sorry for the
misinformation.


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John Keiser <john.keiser2@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

Is this in all modes - Auto, Program, etc?
Click to expand...
It seems to be.

Even using it with the manual exposure at its darkest setting gives
over-exposure and a coarse 'raster' effect.

I have now noticed that the display has a slight flicker which I don't
remember seeing before.


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"Adrian Tuddenham"

I have re-set the camera by removing both power and memory batteriea,
Click to expand...

** The camera has no memory battery.

Any other suggestions?
Click to expand...

** Try resetting the camera to all defaults.

See P28 of the "Advanced Use Guide".



..... Phil
 
"Adrian Tuddenham"

I have now noticed that the display has a slight flicker which I don't
remember seeing before.
Click to expand...

** The LCD display flickers when pre-viewing a scene lit by fluoro lamps or
other light source with mains frequency intensity variations.



..... Phil
 
On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 22:33:02 +0000, adrian@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Adrian Tuddenham) wrote:

John Keiser <john.keiser2@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

Is this in all modes - Auto, Program, etc?

It seems to be.

Even using it with the manual exposure at its darkest setting gives
over-exposure and a coarse 'raster' effect.
Click to expand...
Possibly the sudden freeing up of the mode switch is the clue. It may
be "detached" and stuck in an inappropriate mode.

Basically with the cost of these device dropping continuously you will
find - as we have - that repair is not a cost-effective alternative to
replacement. That said, you have littlle to lose by disassembling it
(not trivial) and exploring the internals with special attention to
the mode switch.

I have now noticed that the display has a slight flicker which I don't
remember seeing before.
Click to expand...
 
who where <noone@home.net> wrote:

On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 22:33:02 +0000, adrian@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Adrian Tuddenham) wrote:

John Keiser <john.keiser2@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

Is this in all modes - Auto, Program, etc?

It seems to be.

Even using it with the manual exposure at its darkest setting gives
over-exposure and a coarse 'raster' effect.

Possibly the sudden freeing up of the mode switch is the clue. It may
be "detached" and stuck in an inappropriate mode.
Click to expand...
It seems to switch between modes normally, so at least one section of
the switch is working - but I agree it does seem the first place to
look.

I have found two other references on the Web from people who have
experienced the same fault - but neither of them appeared to have found
a solution.

Basically with the cost of these device dropping continuously you will
find - as we have - that repair is not a cost-effective alternative to
replacement. That said, you have littlle to lose by disassembling it
(not trivial) and exploring the internals with special attention to
the mode switch.
Click to expand...
That's going to be my first plan of action. I notice there is a camera
repair shop in London which claims to do economically-priced repairs on
this model.

My problem with buying a new camera is that I may not be able to get a
suitable card reader which works with my current Mac OS 8.6 system - and
I cannot change the OS because all my business software runs on it.


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Adrian Tuddenham wrote:
My problem with buying a new camera is that I may not be able to get a
suitable card reader which works with my current Mac OS 8.6 system - and
I cannot change the OS because all my business software runs on it.
Click to expand...
Can you be more specific? That would place it as a late Power Mac, or an early
G3.

This is going to become more and more of a problem, as your 10 year old plus
computer starts to fail and parts are no longer available. Besides keeping
lots of backups, you should investigate either alternate hardware or spares.

I was given a beige G3 the other day, cleaned it up and gave it to a friend
who uses one for his daily writing. His is starting to fail and now he has a
"hot spare". The cost was zero to him, and the owner was glad to see it not
end up in the recycle bin.

Cost of full refurbishement, which I did not do, would have been a $10
battery, and a new(er) floppy drive. Most just need to be taken apart, cleaned
and lubricated, but this one has an electrical problem too, so I would have
to get one from another less functional computer.

I do this as a "good deed" and I'm sure you could find someone who would be
able to help you in your area.

Note that there is a program called SheepShaver that will run on a modern
Mac and let you boot MacOS in a "virtual machine". You can boot your OS 8.6
under it and run your software.

While you are asking around for spares, you may want to ask about that too.

Geoff.

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Geoffrey S. Mendelson <gsm@mendelson.com> wrote:

Adrian Tuddenham wrote:
My problem with buying a new camera is that I may not be able to get a
suitable card reader which works with my current Mac OS 8.6 system - and
I cannot change the OS because all my business software runs on it.

Can you be more specific? That would place it as a late Power Mac, or an early
G3.
Click to expand...
The system runs on a collection of beige G3s linked by Appletalk. The
main business workhorse is ClarisWorks 4.

This is going to become more and more of a problem, as your 10 year old plus
computer starts to fail and parts are no longer available. Besides keeping
lots of backups, you should investigate either alternate hardware or spares.
Click to expand...
I have a shed full of spares and a lot of backup drives.


Cost of full refurbishement, which I did not do, would have been a $10
battery, and a new(er) floppy drive.
Click to expand...
You can use a stack of much cheaper coin cells if you machine up a brass
slug to fill the remaining space in the battery holder. These G3s have
ATA drives as well as the original SCSI ones. so replacements are no
problem.


Note that there is a program called SheepShaver that will run on a modern
Mac and let you boot MacOS in a "virtual machine". You can boot your OS 8.6
under it and run your software.
Click to expand...
I do have an Intel iMac which would take Sheepshaver, but I have been
told it still wouldn't allow me too use Pub&Sub, which is what links all
my sales software together. No only that, but the iMac won't work on an
Appletalk network, in the past I have had to transfer files to it using
FTP. It sits in a corner, switched off and effectively useless, while
the G3s do most of the work.

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Phil Allison <phil_a@tpg.com.au> wrote:

"Adrian Tuddenham"


I have re-set the camera by removing both power and memory batteriea,


** The camera has no memory battery.
Click to expand...
This one does, it is a 1220 coin cell in a little plastic clip at the
opposite end from the main battery door.


Any other suggestions?


** Try resetting the camera to all defaults.
Click to expand...
Tried it - no difference.

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who where <noone@home.net> wrote:

On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 22:33:02 +0000, adrian@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Adrian Tuddenham) wrote:

John Keiser <john.keiser2@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

Is this in all modes - Auto, Program, etc?

It seems to be.

Even using it with the manual exposure at its darkest setting gives
over-exposure and a coarse 'raster' effect.

Possibly the sudden freeing up of the mode switch is the clue. It may
be "detached" and stuck in an inappropriate mode.

Basically with the cost of these device dropping continuously you will
find - as we have - that repair is not a cost-effective alternative to
replacement. That said, you have littlle to lose by disassembling it
(not trivial) and exploring the internals with special attention to
the mode switch.
Click to expand...
I've taken it apart and discovered that the mode switch is a robust
single pole type with nothing to suggest a fault. The click mechanism
is outside the main casing underneath the operating knob and I suspect
that it became stiff when some dirt got into that part of it.

I have put the camera back together and it operate exactly as before.

Next step is to contact the camera repairers in London, when they come
back after the Bank Holiday, and ask for an estimate.


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"Adrian Tuddenham"


** The advice for your problem is that the shutter is stuck open causing
over exposure on bright subjects.



..... Phil
 
On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 11:28:40 +0000, adrian@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Adrian Tuddenham) wrote:

who where <noone@home.net> wrote:

On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 22:33:02 +0000, adrian@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Adrian Tuddenham) wrote:

John Keiser <john.keiser2@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

Is this in all modes - Auto, Program, etc?

It seems to be.

Even using it with the manual exposure at its darkest setting gives
over-exposure and a coarse 'raster' effect.

Possibly the sudden freeing up of the mode switch is the clue. It may
be "detached" and stuck in an inappropriate mode.

It seems to switch between modes normally, so at least one section of
the switch is working - but I agree it does seem the first place to
look.

I have found two other references on the Web from people who have
experienced the same fault - but neither of them appeared to have found
a solution.

Basically with the cost of these device dropping continuously you will
find - as we have - that repair is not a cost-effective alternative to
replacement. That said, you have littlle to lose by disassembling it
(not trivial) and exploring the internals with special attention to
the mode switch.

That's going to be my first plan of action. I notice there is a camera
repair shop in London which claims to do economically-priced repairs on
this model.
Click to expand...
Good luck with that (sincerely). You may also be able to locate a
pre-loved A420/430 for the same sort of cost.

My problem with buying a new camera is that I may not be able to get a
suitable card reader which works with my current Mac OS 8.6 system - and
I cannot change the OS because all my business software runs on it.
Click to expand...
SD/MMC? Close to standard for very many cameras.

We have a couple of Canons here (A200 and A540), chosen for quick
point-n-shoot duty. They were selected because of key features on my
shopping list - AA batteries, macro, USB interfacing, etc etc - if you
start the hunt for a replacement with a "must-have" feature list
you'll surely have some success. (We don't read the card to retrieve
pics, we use ZB and the USB posts only).
 
"Adrian Tuddenham"

** The camera has no memory battery.

This one does, it is a 1220 coin cell in a little plastic clip at the
opposite end from the main battery door.
Click to expand...

** Then the camera was made prior to 2006.

Musta been old stock when you bought it.


.... Phil
 
On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 08:00:03 +0800, who where <noone@home.net> wrote:

(snip)
(We don't read the card to retrieve
pics, we use ZB and the USB posts only).
Click to expand...
posts -> ports
 
who where <noone@home.net> wrote:

On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 11:28:40 +0000, adrian@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Adrian Tuddenham) wrote:

...I notice there is a camera
repair shop in London which claims to do economically-priced repairs on
this model.

Good luck with that (sincerely). You may also be able to locate a
pre-loved A420/430 for the same sort of cost.
Click to expand...
I'll let you know how I get on.

My problem with buying a new camera is that I may not be able to get a
suitable card reader which works with my current Mac OS 8.6 system - and
I cannot change the OS because all my business software runs on it.

SD/MMC? Close to standard for very many cameras.

We have a couple of Canons here (A200 and A540), chosen for quick
point-n-shoot duty. They were selected because of key features on my
shopping list - AA batteries, macro, USB interfacing, etc etc - if you
start the hunt for a replacement with a "must-have" feature list
you'll surely have some success. (We don't read the card to retrieve
pics, we use ZB and the USB ports only).
Click to expand...
That was a problem I had with the A420, the Mac could see the USB port
on the camera but the camera wouldn't allow access to the data without
its own software running on the Mac OS - and the drivers supplied by
Canon didn't work on OS 8.6

I solved the problem with a cheap USB card reader.

A friend has recently bought a card reader to use with her Sony camera
on Mac OS 8.6 and discovered theat it won't work because they now put
the reader software in the computer, not in the reader and ...guess
what... the card software won't run on OS 8.6 !

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Adrian Tuddenham wrote:
A friend has recently bought a card reader to use with her Sony camera
on Mac OS 8.6 and discovered theat it won't work because they now put
the reader software in the computer, not in the reader and ...guess
what... the card software won't run on OS 8.6 !
Click to expand...
This may be of interest to you:

http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1238?viewlocale=en_US

It was the last USB update that will run on MacOS 8.6 and it states what will
and will not work.

Geoff.


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