California ships toxic waste out of state...

[Fred Bloggs]

Since 2010, nearly half of California’s hazardous waste has left the Golden State, according to figures the state released last summer.

Some of this estimated 10 million tons has gone to specialized facilities, but California government agencies and businesses have also transported much of it over the border to states with weaker environmental regulations and dumped it at regular municipal waste landfills, a CalMatters investigation has found.

News story:

https://news.yahoo.com/california-ships-toxic-waste-state-145725227.html

Investigative report:

California keeps sending toxic soil to out-of-state landfills — Newsom and legislators are slow to change course

https://calmatters.org/environment/2023/02/california-legislature-reviews-toxic-waste-disposal/

The hypocrisy of this is mind boggling. California politicians unfazed. And here they have that Proposition 65 warning stuck on every product sold in America.

 

[Ricky]

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 4:04:28 PM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:

Since 2010, nearly half of California’s hazardous waste has left the Golden State, according to figures the state released last summer.

Some of this estimated 10 million tons has gone to specialized facilities, but California government agencies and businesses have also transported much of it over the border to states with weaker environmental regulations and dumped it at regular municipal waste landfills, a CalMatters investigation has found.

News story:

https://news.yahoo.com/california-ships-toxic-waste-state-145725227.html

Investigative report:

California keeps sending toxic soil to out-of-state landfills — Newsom and legislators are slow to change course

https://calmatters.org/environment/2023/02/california-legislature-reviews-toxic-waste-disposal/

The hypocrisy of this is mind boggling. California politicians unfazed. And here they have that Proposition 65 warning stuck on every product sold in America.

Ok, to restate your premise, California is taking advantage of services that other states think are a good idea to offer in their state. Seems like a win-win to me!

Are you trying to say this is being forced on other states by California? Bad California, bad, bad, bad!

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[Ed Lee]

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 7:56:02 PM UTC-8, Ricky wrote:

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 4:04:28 PM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
Since 2010, nearly half of California’s hazardous waste has left the Golden State, according to figures the state released last summer.

Some of this estimated 10 million tons has gone to specialized facilities, but California government agencies and businesses have also transported much of it over the border to states with weaker environmental regulations and dumped it at regular municipal waste landfills, a CalMatters investigation has found.

News story:

https://news.yahoo.com/california-ships-toxic-waste-state-145725227.html

Investigative report:

California keeps sending toxic soil to out-of-state landfills — Newsom and legislators are slow to change course

https://calmatters.org/environment/2023/02/california-legislature-reviews-toxic-waste-disposal/

The hypocrisy of this is mind boggling. California politicians unfazed. And here they have that Proposition 65 warning stuck on every product sold in America.
Ok, to restate your premise, California is taking advantage of services that other states think are a good idea to offer in their state. Seems like a win-win to me!

Are you trying to say this is being forced on other states by California? Bad California, bad, bad, bad!

\"That includes more than 105,000 tons from the state’s cleanup of lead-contaminated soil in the neighborhoods around the old Exide battery recycling facility in Los Angeles County.\"

Where are the LA batteries coming from? Not just from the LA area. Most likely every other states.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 1:29:40 AM UTC-5, Ed Lee wrote:

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 7:56:02 PM UTC-8, Ricky wrote:
On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 4:04:28 PM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
Since 2010, nearly half of California’s hazardous waste has left the Golden State, according to figures the state released last summer.

Some of this estimated 10 million tons has gone to specialized facilities, but California government agencies and businesses have also transported much of it over the border to states with weaker environmental regulations and dumped it at regular municipal waste landfills, a CalMatters investigation has found.

News story:

https://news.yahoo.com/california-ships-toxic-waste-state-145725227.html

Investigative report:

California keeps sending toxic soil to out-of-state landfills — Newsom and legislators are slow to change course

https://calmatters.org/environment/2023/02/california-legislature-reviews-toxic-waste-disposal/

The hypocrisy of this is mind boggling. California politicians unfazed. And here they have that Proposition 65 warning stuck on every product sold in America.
Ok, to restate your premise, California is taking advantage of services that other states think are a good idea to offer in their state. Seems like a win-win to me!

Are you trying to say this is being forced on other states by California? Bad California, bad, bad, bad!
\"That includes more than 105,000 tons from the state’s cleanup of lead-contaminated soil in the neighborhoods around the old Exide battery recycling facility in Los Angeles County.\"

Where are the LA batteries coming from? Not just from the LA area. Most likely every other states.

That\'s no excuse for disposing of it recklessly. If the California legislature has resolved itself to being a responsible steward of environmental health, then out of state dumping in areas with less responsible regulations is an inconsistency of government. The responsible action is for California to develop its own hazardous waste disposal sites, or possibly build proper disposal sites out of state, and then handle the waste more responsibly. Much of the cost can charged to the entities responsible for the contamination, like the DoD. Exide is a different story:

On October 16, 2020, a federal bankruptcy court allowed Exide to divest itself of responsibilities for multiple waste sites including Exide\'s battery recycling plant in Vernon, CA, near Los Angeles. Okay so they need to charge the federal bankruptcy court for the cleanup there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exide

 

[Ricky]

On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 11:50:24 AM UTC-5, Fred Bloggs wrote:

On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 1:29:40 AM UTC-5, Ed Lee wrote:
On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 7:56:02 PM UTC-8, Ricky wrote:
On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 4:04:28 PM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
Since 2010, nearly half of California’s hazardous waste has left the Golden State, according to figures the state released last summer..

Some of this estimated 10 million tons has gone to specialized facilities, but California government agencies and businesses have also transported much of it over the border to states with weaker environmental regulations and dumped it at regular municipal waste landfills, a CalMatters investigation has found.

News story:

https://news.yahoo.com/california-ships-toxic-waste-state-145725227..html

Investigative report:

California keeps sending toxic soil to out-of-state landfills — Newsom and legislators are slow to change course

https://calmatters.org/environment/2023/02/california-legislature-reviews-toxic-waste-disposal/

The hypocrisy of this is mind boggling. California politicians unfazed. And here they have that Proposition 65 warning stuck on every product sold in America.
Ok, to restate your premise, California is taking advantage of services that other states think are a good idea to offer in their state. Seems like a win-win to me!

Are you trying to say this is being forced on other states by California? Bad California, bad, bad, bad!
\"That includes more than 105,000 tons from the state’s cleanup of lead-contaminated soil in the neighborhoods around the old Exide battery recycling facility in Los Angeles County.\"

Where are the LA batteries coming from? Not just from the LA area. Most likely every other states.
That\'s no excuse for disposing of it recklessly.

You are the only one saying it is disposed of \"recklessly\". But that\'s just your twisted logic. States set their own regulations. Each state determines what is and is not reckless in their state. If another state is happy to accept the waste, and deems the disposal, \"safe\", then who are YOU to doubt that, especially with no evidence?


> If the California legislature has resolved itself to being a responsible steward of environmental health, then out of state dumping in areas with less responsible regulations is an inconsistency of government. The responsible action is for California to develop its own hazardous waste disposal sites, or possibly build proper disposal sites out of state, and then handle the waste more responsibly. Much of the cost can charged to the entities responsible for the contamination, like the DoD. Exide is a different story:

Again, this is just your spin on the situation. Who are you to worry about how states regulate themselves?

On October 16, 2020, a federal bankruptcy court allowed Exide to divest itself of responsibilities for multiple waste sites including Exide\'s battery recycling plant in Vernon, CA, near Los Angeles. Okay so they need to charge the federal bankruptcy court for the cleanup there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exide

No the same issue at all. Exide is the company who created the mess, not the one who cleaned it up. Companies often are bankrupted by the environmental problems they create, because of a lack of regulation when the mess is being created. It\'s typically far too little, too late once the damage is done. The company doesn\'t have enough funds to fix the problem. I have heard of companies trying to divest themselves of the problem by transferring all the liability to a subsidiary and letting that company go through bankruptcy, which allows the parent company to retain their profits. But often courts don\'t allow this.

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Rick C.

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