Brother laser and transfer PCBs

[Ian Macmillan]

Does anyone know if using a recycled toner cartridge can solve the problems
of using toner transfer with Brother printers?

All the best

Ian Macmillan

 

[atec77]

On 10/10/2010 12:09 AM, Ian Macmillan wrote:

Does anyone know if using a recycled toner cartridge can solve the problems
of using toner transfer with Brother printers?

All the best

Ian Macmillan


What do you call toner transfer ?

usually image problems stem from failure to clean correctly or a bad drum


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[terryc]

On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 23:47:19 +1000, atec77 wrote:

On 10/10/2010 12:09 AM, Ian Macmillan wrote:
Does anyone know if using a recycled toner cartridge can solve the
problems of using toner transfer with Brother printers?

All the best

Ian Macmillan


What do you call toner transfer ?

Asking the question in an electronics forum, I suspect it was printing a
layout on pcb by first printing onto paper, then ironing it onto the
copper.

If such, considerations are
turned up setting to max?
tried different brands of paper?
right iron setting and method?

 

[Mark Harriss]

Ian Macmillan wrote:

Incidentally, does anyone know if the U.S. electroless tinning product
"Tinnit" is available here?. Probably not shippable from U.S.A....

All ideas appreciated!

All the best
Ian Macmillan

Tinnit type products have a toxic ingredient thiourea as the
"reducing agent" so they are hard to ship because of this.

 

[Ian Macmillan]

"terryc" <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote in message
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On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 23:47:19 +1000, atec77 wrote:

On 10/10/2010 12:09 AM, Ian Macmillan wrote:
Does anyone know if using a recycled toner cartridge can solve the
problems of using toner transfer with Brother printers?

All the best

Ian Macmillan


What do you call toner transfer ?

Asking the question in an electronics forum, I suspect it was printing a
layout on pcb by first printing onto paper, then ironing it onto the
copper.

If such, considerations are
turned up setting to max?
tried different brands of paper?
right iron setting and method?

I have used this PCB transfer method a lot in the past, using a now defunct
Canon photocopier. However my Brother laser printer doesnt make acceptable
transfer images, despite extensive experiments with paper and methods. The
images are fine, but they dont transfer properly. I see other comments on
the net about this problem with Brother printers.

I have discovered that Brother printers use a positive charged toner while
the majority of laser printers use a negative charges toner, so my idea that
a different toner in a recycled cartridge might help seems less likely. It
seems temperature may not be the only factor.

By the way, I must say we are very happy with Brother printers - we now have
three of them, good prints, no problems, economical.

I will experiment with surface treatment of the copper substrate to try to
improve the copper to toner bond. Flame treatment, pre-etch, and tin (or
other) plating are on the agenda.

Incidentally, does anyone know if the U.S. electroless tinning product
"Tinnit" is available here?. Probably not shippable from U.S.A....

All ideas appreciated!

All the best
Ian Macmillan

 

[Ian Macmillan]

"Ian Macmillan" <iandmac@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:4cb06959$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...

Does anyone know if using a recycled toner cartridge can solve the
problems
of using toner transfer with Brother printers?

All the best

Ian Macmillan

I see that all the previous responses to this post have evaporated. However
I found a simple and inexpensive solution to this problem. I print a nice
paper copy of the PCB artwork and take it to my local print shop and get a
20c photocopy of it on Kodak Gloss Photo paper (Cat 665 7076). This copy
works fine. Incidentally, I carefully preheat the board (fibreglass) with a
propane torch until it just starts to colour, then quickly roll the image
paper on to it with a rubber art roller. I have backed this up with a
domestic iron, but suspect the roller treatment is all thats really needed
using the hot board approach.

All the best

Ian Macmillan