block/ignore...

[TTman]

Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group -
it\'s in tools..

--
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

 

[Don Y]

On 8/7/2022 2:02 AM, TTman wrote:

Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group - it\'s
in tools..

That\'s possible in virtually all NNTP clients.

But, most limit the filters to just header content;
you can\'t filter based on *body* content. You can
do much more if you suck up the feed to a server and
do the filtering \"server-side\" (it also lets you benefit
from that filtering even if you use a different
client/host)

And, you have to be a bit more creative to deal
with the nym-shifters -- but that\'s not really hard.

[filtering based on cross-posting is a good first cut]

 

[Dimiter_Popoff]

On 8/7/2022 12:02, TTman wrote:

Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group -
it\'s in tools..

There is not such a huge flood of posts to need filtering, it just takes
a glance to spot a post you might want to read.

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Sun, 7 Aug 2022 10:02:09 +0100) it happened TTman
<kraken.sankey@gmail.com> wrote in <tcnv2i$g9ad$1@dont-email.me>:

Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group -
it\'s in tools..

Its easy in the newsreader I wrote, NewsFleX:
Just activated the filter again due to too much noise
You can filter on almost anything.

--
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Stupid commercial you are hereby filtered!!!
LOL
hehe

 

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 13:04:13 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
wrote:

On 8/7/2022 12:02, TTman wrote:
Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group -
it\'s in tools..


There is not such a huge flood of posts to need filtering, it just takes
a glance to spot a post you might want to read.

There a few posters here that, when you see their name, you know that
his post and all follow-ups are garbage. Usually many, many
follow-ups. The pattern is distinct.

And a very few people are always worth reading. Occasionally a
stranger will ask a reasonable question.

--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc trk

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
\"Bunter\", he said, \"I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason\"

 

[Dimiter_Popoff]

On 8/7/2022 17:00, John Larkin wrote:

On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 13:04:13 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 8/7/2022 12:02, TTman wrote:
Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group -
it\'s in tools..


There is not such a huge flood of posts to need filtering, it just takes
a glance to spot a post you might want to read.

There a few posters here that, when you see their name, you know that
his post and all follow-ups are garbage. Usually many, many
follow-ups. The pattern is distinct.

And a very few people are always worth reading. Occasionally a
stranger will ask a reasonable question.

Exactly, this is how I see it, too. I typically monitor the group with
the browser via google groups and use the newsreader only if I want
to post.

 

[Ricky]

On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 10:00:26 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 13:04:13 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <d...@tgi-sci.com
wrote:
On 8/7/2022 12:02, TTman wrote:
Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group -
it\'s in tools..


There is not such a huge flood of posts to need filtering, it just takes
a glance to spot a post you might want to read.
There a few posters here that, when you see their name, you know that
his post and all follow-ups are garbage. Usually many, many
follow-ups. The pattern is distinct.

Yes, and others are very intermittent posters providing tons of pointless opinion and drivel, the occasionally posting something worth reading.

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Don Y]

On 8/7/2022 3:04 AM, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:

On 8/7/2022 12:02, TTman wrote:
Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group - it\'s
in tools..

There is not such a huge flood of posts to need filtering, it just takes
a glance to spot a post you might want to read.

The problem with an unfiltered feed is that you have to keep track
of who you want to read/ignore.

The problem with filters is you need to manually (in so much as you
have to select the pertinent criteria) create/maintain them.

My approach has been to let an agent sort through the feed using
criteria that it \"notices\" me using IMPLICITLY. E.g., if I\'ve
\"learned\" to not open certain types of posts -- or to regret opening
them /ex post factum/ -- let the agent *notice* that I\'ve opted
not to open the post (because my client didn\'t send a request for
the message BODY to the NNTP server/agent) and ignore them *for* me.

If I ignore folks who quote 99% of a message and add (bottom post)
a one line comment, let the agent ignore them. If I ignore posts
who talk about Trump... or, resort to silly profanity... or...

(these aren\'t trivial to do with existing filter tools)

I don\'t like my phone ringing when I know it\'s a call that I\'m NOT
going to answer (based on some observable criteria) so why not do
the same for USENET posts, email, etc.?

Machines are great for remembering/enforcing behaviors/decisions!

 

[Dimiter_Popoff]

On 8/7/2022 18:59, Don Y wrote:

On 8/7/2022 3:04 AM, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
On 8/7/2022 12:02, TTman wrote:
Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this
group - it\'s in tools..

There is not such a huge flood of posts to need filtering, it just takes
a glance to spot a post you might want to read.
The problem with an unfiltered feed is that you have to keep track
of who you want to read/ignore.

The problem with filters is you need to manually (in so much as you
have to select the pertinent criteria) create/maintain them.

That is easier to do with this newsgroup. Try coping with my email
input . Lately only hundreds of spam messages per day, used to be
thousands (spammers got tired? Some died out? Whatever...).
I read my email using my text editor, the one I have been using
for programming ever since I wrote its first version some time around
1995-6. So I am very used to it, skipping from message to message is
just one key (alt-s, ok, two keys) searching the delimiter between the
messages; and since the first line is return-path: and spammers use that
for their purposes so it takes me a fraction of a second to detect a
spam and skip to the next.

My approach has been to let an agent sort through the feed using
criteria that it \"notices\" me using IMPLICITLY.  E.g., if I\'ve
\"learned\" to not open certain types of posts -- or to regret opening
them /ex post factum/ -- let the agent *notice* that I\'ve opted
not to open the post (because my client didn\'t send a request for
the message BODY to the NNTP server/agent) and ignore them *for* me.

If I ignore folks who quote 99% of a message and add (bottom post)
a one line comment, let the agent ignore them.  If I ignore posts
who talk about Trump...  or, resort to silly profanity... or...

(these aren\'t trivial to do with existing filter tools)

I don\'t like my phone ringing when I know it\'s a call that I\'m NOT
going to answer (based on some observable criteria) so why not do
the same for USENET posts, email, etc.?

Phone spammers are not very active here, almost non-existent.
However I do switch the phone to silent mode while asleep (and
unplug the landline phone, a Chinese lady keeps on calling wanting
to sell me parts, around 10-11 AM here, I sleep until much later).
Works well, sometimes not so well - like when I forgot to leave
the phone on and the courier could not deliver a laptop which was
part of a spectrometry system a DoD customer was waiting for....
(Luckily I got that the next day).

 

[a a]

On Sunday, 7 August 2022 at 11:02:18 UTC+2, TTman wrote:

Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group -
it\'s in tools..

WARNING !!
Never send marketing spam by AVAST

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-Why? Because Avast — which also owns AVG — has been caught in a firestorm of controversy over the last several months regarding serious allegations of unethical business practices.

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-The SafetyDetectives team has carefully considered our decision to scrub Avast from our website over the next several weeks. At the end of the day, any company that faces such severe allegations has lost our faith and cannot receive our seal of approval.
Here’s How Avast Allegedly Spied on Its Users for the Last 7 Years

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Antivirus software is some of the most invasive software around. We give our antivirus software an unprecedented amount of access to our system — sensitive files, browsing history, financial information, and personal networks are all visible to our antivirus. We sign privacy policies and user agreements with the assumption that there isn’t deceptive language buried in all the legalese. But by violating their customer’s privacy in this way, Avast has corroded the relationship between users and antivirus products around the world. There are enough threats from hackers and invasive governments to worry about — antivirus providers should not be another threat to user security.

Jumpshot has been officially shut down, and Avast Online Security is back on Chrome and Mozilla web stores, with tighter privacy protections. But the fact remains that Avast was unethically profiting off of their users’ data for 7 years, and the only thing that stopped them was the citizen reportage of Wladimir Palant and the investigative journalists at VICE Motherboard. In our opinion, if independent professionals hadn’t rigorously documented these serious violations and notified the public, then Avast would still be running this scam. It’s even arguable that Avast only really considered changing their practices after a US Senator stepped up to confront them.
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Why Ethical Violations by Antivirus Companies Are Especially Serious

However, amid such glaring violations of user privacy which have been happening over the last 7 years, we can no longer continue to promote Avast or any of their subsidiaries (like AVG) on our site.

We’ve been considering a move like this for a long time. Even though a lot of top review sites continue promoting — and profiting from — Avast, we’ve been steadily moving them off of our lists for a while. The ultimate motivation for us was all of the feedback we received from our readers with messages like this: “After the data selling incident from AVAST, this software shouldn’t get any positive review or recommendation.”

We completely agree. These kinds of violations of privacy should be disturbing to anybody who believes in basic human rights. This is why it’s so important for computer users to stay on top of these issues and protect their computers with trustworthy antivirus software.

It isn’t always the easy or popular thing to do, but standing up to huge companies when they violate our rights is important. SafetyDetectives was founded with the intention of providing people around the globe with the tools to keep their data safe in the digital age — safe from hackers, unethical governments, and even predatory cybersecurity companies like Avast who have shown the world how little they care about their users.

 

[Don Y]

On 8/7/2022 1:59 PM, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:

On 8/7/2022 18:59, Don Y wrote:
On 8/7/2022 3:04 AM, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
On 8/7/2022 12:02, TTman wrote:
Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group -
it\'s in tools..

There is not such a huge flood of posts to need filtering, it just takes
a glance to spot a post you might want to read.
The problem with an unfiltered feed is that you have to keep track
of who you want to read/ignore.

The problem with filters is you need to manually (in so much as you
have to select the pertinent criteria) create/maintain them.

That is easier to do with this newsgroup. Try coping with my email
input . Lately only hundreds of spam messages per day, used to be
thousands (spammers got tired? Some died out? Whatever...).

Yikes! I\'ve got my email spam down to *zero*. But, I am very
aggressive in controlling that means of contact; I don\'t give
out an email address unless I *want* contact from that individual
or organization. And, \"personalize\" each address so I can see
if it\'s been \"passed on\", leaked, etc. This helps me weed out
groups that aren\'t as protective of my contact info as I\'d like.

It also lets me notify folks when *they\'re* accounts have been hacked
(because I know the source of the \"leak\").

[I recently had a scammer masquerade as a legitimate contact
but my email \"agent\" noticed discrepancies in the headers that
I\'d typically not bother checking and flagged it as bogus.
So, I phoned the party in question to inform htem that they\'d likely
been hacked. \"Yeah, I know. My ex-wife fell for it to the tune
of $400...\"]

I read my email using my text editor, the one I have been using
for programming ever since I wrote its first version some time around
1995-6. So I am very used to it, skipping from message to message is
just one key (alt-s, ok, two keys) searching the delimiter between the
messages; and since the first line is return-path: and spammers use that
for their purposes so it takes me a fraction of a second to detect a
spam and skip to the next.

I parse the headers (and content) and use that to drive the \"selection
algorithm\". I don\'t filter things *out* but, rather, gate things *in*.
So, a scammer can\'t just keep creating new From: headers to bypass
any \"blacklisting\".

My approach has been to let an agent sort through the feed using
criteria that it \"notices\" me using IMPLICITLY. E.g., if I\'ve
\"learned\" to not open certain types of posts -- or to regret opening
them /ex post factum/ -- let the agent *notice* that I\'ve opted
not to open the post (because my client didn\'t send a request for
the message BODY to the NNTP server/agent) and ignore them *for* me.

If I ignore folks who quote 99% of a message and add (bottom post)
a one line comment, let the agent ignore them. If I ignore posts
who talk about Trump... or, resort to silly profanity... or...

(these aren\'t trivial to do with existing filter tools)

I don\'t like my phone ringing when I know it\'s a call that I\'m NOT
going to answer (based on some observable criteria) so why not do
the same for USENET posts, email, etc.?

Phone spammers are not very active here, almost non-existent.

When I first deployed my \"telephone attendant\" (agent), I watched the
logs of how individual calls were handled (dropped, routed to /dev/null
voicemail, routed to real voicemail, etc.).

Lots of contacts from folks telling me my microsoft license was *expired*.
Or, to renew (!) the warranty on my car (yet they don\'t know what make/model?).
Or, for debt relief (we have *no* debt). Or, to verify my ______ account.
Or...

Also found several messages from different phone numbers with the same
voice print (my attendant tries to identify the caller in case it doesn\'t
recognize the number originating the call). Robots are easy to identify
cuz they never get colds, laryngitis, etc. :>

I\'ve found that the most effective filter criteria is: do they use one
of our names in their message. Otherwise, its not specific to us and
likely spam.

I\'ve watched folks with cell phones and see them effectively tethered to their
phones, carrying them around the house with them (WTF? is that a convenience
or an obligation??!). Or, letting everything go to voice mail and then having
to periodically \"make an effort\" to sort through their messages. Or, sorting
through email transcripts of incoming messages.

Isn\'t The Phone supposed to be a convenience function?!

Going forward, I see this as a valuable tool in avoiding exploitation
(scammers) from the folks who try to trick you into some action that
isn\'t warranted (\"Your grandson is being held on an old warrant. Please
send us $X for her bail\" -- yeah, there are all sorts of scammers
out there!)

However I do switch the phone to silent mode while asleep (and
unplug the landline phone, a Chinese lady keeps on calling wanting
to sell me parts, around 10-11 AM here, I sleep until much later).
Works well, sometimes not so well - like when I forgot to leave
the phone on and the courier could not deliver a laptop which was
part of a spectrometry system a DoD customer was waiting for....
(Luckily I got that the next day).

When I lived alone, I quickly tired of the phone and dropped my
business line. Folks would call when it was convenient for *them*
which was often NOT convenient for me (as my sleep-wake cycle is
highly variable).

And, playing phone tag is just as bad.

So, I coerced (forced!) folks to adopt email as their sole means
of contact. In addition to letting each party address the communication
at a time appropriate for their *own* needs, it has the added benefit of
documenting the conversation. No more relying on what you THINK was
agreed upon!

 

[Clifford Heath]

On 8/8/22 00:00, John Larkin wrote:

On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 13:04:13 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 8/7/2022 12:02, TTman wrote:
Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group -
it\'s in tools..


There is not such a huge flood of posts to need filtering, it just takes
a glance to spot a post you might want to read.

There a few posters here that, when you see their name, you know that
his post and all follow-ups are garbage. Usually many, many
follow-ups. The pattern is distinct.

And a very few people are always worth reading. Occasionally a
stranger will ask a reasonable question.

I have two filters: folk like your first group, who never say anything
worthwhile or generate worthwhile followup - I hide those subthreads.

The other group is folk whose posts are only worth reading if someone
else responds. Those get marked as \"already read\" but I can still see
them if they produce interesting followup.

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 09:48:04 +1000, Clifford Heath <no_spam@please.net>
wrote:

On 8/8/22 00:00, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 13:04:13 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 8/7/2022 12:02, TTman wrote:
Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group -
it\'s in tools..


There is not such a huge flood of posts to need filtering, it just takes
a glance to spot a post you might want to read.

There a few posters here that, when you see their name, you know that
his post and all follow-ups are garbage. Usually many, many
follow-ups. The pattern is distinct.

And a very few people are always worth reading. Occasionally a
stranger will ask a reasonable question.

I have two filters: folk like your first group, who never say anything
worthwhile or generate worthwhile followup - I hide those subthreads.

The other group is folk whose posts are only worth reading if someone
else responds. Those get marked as \"already read\" but I can still see
them if they produce interesting followup.

But if everyone did that, nobody would ever respond.

--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc trk

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
\"Bunter\", he said, \"I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason\"

 

[amdx]

On 8/7/2022 6:20 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Sun, 7 Aug 2022 10:02:09 +0100) it happened TTman
kraken.sankey@gmail.com> wrote in <tcnv2i$g9ad$1@dont-email.me>:

Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group -
it\'s in tools..
Its easy in the newsreader I wrote, NewsFleX:
Just activated the filter again due to too much noise
You can filter on almost anything.



--
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Stupid commercial you are hereby filtered!!!
LOL
hehe

Google how to remove the Avast add. I had mine removed years ago when
Jeff Leibermann
chastised me. Somehow it came back, probably an update. I hope I spelled
his name right,
I got chastised for misspelling his name too.
                                   Mikek

 

[Clifford Heath]

On 8/8/22 10:56, John Larkin wrote:

On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 09:48:04 +1000, Clifford Heath <no_spam@please.net
wrote:

On 8/8/22 00:00, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 13:04:13 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 8/7/2022 12:02, TTman wrote:
Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group -
it\'s in tools..


There is not such a huge flood of posts to need filtering, it just takes
a glance to spot a post you might want to read.

There a few posters here that, when you see their name, you know that
his post and all follow-ups are garbage. Usually many, many
follow-ups. The pattern is distinct.

And a very few people are always worth reading. Occasionally a
stranger will ask a reasonable question.

I have two filters: folk like your first group, who never say anything
worthwhile or generate worthwhile followup - I hide those subthreads.

The other group is folk whose posts are only worth reading if someone
else responds. Those get marked as \"already read\" but I can still see
them if they produce interesting followup.

But if everyone did that, nobody would ever respond.

Not everyone finds the same people boring.
Sometimes even Sloman says something worthwhile.
I see those because someone else replies.

I also kill-thread any OP that starts out political.

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 12:41:57 +1000, Clifford Heath <no_spam@please.net>
wrote:

On 8/8/22 10:56, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 09:48:04 +1000, Clifford Heath <no_spam@please.net
wrote:

On 8/8/22 00:00, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 13:04:13 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 8/7/2022 12:02, TTman wrote:
Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group -
it\'s in tools..


There is not such a huge flood of posts to need filtering, it just takes
a glance to spot a post you might want to read.

There a few posters here that, when you see their name, you know that
his post and all follow-ups are garbage. Usually many, many
follow-ups. The pattern is distinct.

And a very few people are always worth reading. Occasionally a
stranger will ask a reasonable question.

I have two filters: folk like your first group, who never say anything
worthwhile or generate worthwhile followup - I hide those subthreads.

The other group is folk whose posts are only worth reading if someone
else responds. Those get marked as \"already read\" but I can still see
them if they produce interesting followup.

But if everyone did that, nobody would ever respond.

Not everyone finds the same people boring.
Sometimes even Sloman says something worthwhile.

Mindless insults are worthwhile?

>I see those because someone else replies.

But Sloman\'s posts are usually the start of, or embedded in, stupid
flame wars.

I also kill-thread any OP that starts out political.

Pity that the creeps have driven off people who could talk serious
electronics.

--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc trk

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
\"Bunter\", he said, \"I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason\"

 

[whit3rd]

On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 7:08:51 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 12:41:57 +1000, Clifford Heath <no_...@please.net
wrote:

Not everyone finds the same people boring.
Sometimes even Sloman says something worthwhile.
Mindless insults are worthwhile?
I see those because someone else replies.
But Sloman\'s posts are usually the start of, or embedded in, stupid
flame wars.

Sadly, I perceive a couple of posters trying to start a stupid flame war.

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 13:57:24 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 7:08:51 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 12:41:57 +1000, Clifford Heath <no_...@please.net
wrote:

Not everyone finds the same people boring.
Sometimes even Sloman says something worthwhile.
Mindless insults are worthwhile?
I see those because someone else replies.
But Sloman\'s posts are usually the start of, or embedded in, stupid
flame wars.

Sadly, I perceive a couple of posters trying to start a stupid flame war.

No. Clifford and I are discussing, not arguing and insulting one
another. We mostly agree.

I rarely read and never respond to the ritual flamers. They don\'t know
much about electronic design anyhow.

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John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc trk

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
\"Bunter\", he said, \"I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason\"

 

[boB]

On Sun, 07 Aug 2022 11:20:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Sun, 7 Aug 2022 10:02:09 +0100) it happened TTman
kraken.sankey@gmail.com> wrote in <tcnv2i$g9ad$1@dont-email.me>:

Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group -
it\'s in tools..

Its easy in the newsreader I wrote, NewsFleX:
Just activated the filter again due to too much noise
You can filter on almost anything.

I can add a delete filter for posts from someone but I can\'t seem to
filter responses to those posts which may very well have his responses
in them and, of course, the reset of the stupid topic I wanted to
filter anyway.

Don\'t want to have to create a filter for every subject I don\'t care
for. Using Agent

boB

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Stupid commercial you are hereby filtered!!!
LOL
hehe

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 12:08:51 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:

On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 12:41:57 +1000, Clifford Heath <no_...@please.net
wrote:

On 8/8/22 10:56, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 09:48:04 +1000, Clifford Heath <no_...@please.net
wrote:

On 8/8/22 00:00, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 13:04:13 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <d...@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 8/7/2022 12:02, TTman wrote:
Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group -
it\'s in tools..


There is not such a huge flood of posts to need filtering, it just takes
a glance to spot a post you might want to read.

There a few posters here that, when you see their name, you know that
his post and all follow-ups are garbage. Usually many, many
follow-ups. The pattern is distinct.

And a very few people are always worth reading. Occasionally a
stranger will ask a reasonable question.

I have two filters: folk like your first group, who never say anything
worthwhile or generate worthwhile followup - I hide those subthreads.

The other group is folk whose posts are only worth reading if someone
else responds. Those get marked as \"already read\" but I can still see
them if they produce interesting followup.

But if everyone did that, nobody would ever respond.

Not everyone finds the same people boring.
Sometimes even Sloman says something worthwhile.

Mindless insults are worthwhile?

John Larkin sees any suggestion that he might not have got something right as a \"mindless insult\".
Since he re-posts a lot of climate change denial propaganda, which is a remarkably mindless activity, this is a trifle ironic.

I see those because someone else replies.

But Sloman\'s posts are usually the start of, or embedded in, stupid flame wars.

I don\'t recall starting any stupid flame wars. I don\'t see anything wrong in flaming people who try to flame me, as John Larkin is trying to do here.

I also kill-thread any OP that starts out political.

Pity that the creeps have driven off people who could talk serious electronics.

Name an example. Not that John Larkin\'s ideas about what might constitutes \"serious electronics\" are all that reliable.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney