Blackberry Smart Phones Shut Down...

[Dean Hoffman]

This might be a trip down memory lane for you professional types.
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/01/03/rip-blackberry-phones-technology/>
There\'s a mention about a 4 year old who tried to flush her mom\'s Blackberry down the toilet.

 

[Phil Hobbs]

Dean Hoffman wrote:

This might be a trip down memory lane for you professional types.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/01/03/rip-blackberry-phones-technology/
There\'s a mention about a 4 year old who tried to flush her mom\'s Blackberry down the toilet.

Yup, I\'m switching to a Linux phone this very day.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

[Phil Hobbs]

Paul Babiak wrote:

On 01/04/2022 08:53 AM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Dean Hoffman wrote:
This might be a trip down memory lane for you professional types.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/01/03/rip-blackberry-phones-technology/

   There\'s a mention about a 4 year old who tried to flush her mom\'s
Blackberry down the toilet.


Yup, I\'m switching to a Linux phone this very day.

+1

Which phone/distro have you chose? I\'ve switched to Ubuntu Touch/UB
Ports on a Nexus 5. It\'s functional, but I\'m having issues with
Bluetooth. I\'ll be trying mobian on a Pinephone next.

I have a couple of Pinephones--one beta, one pro. I didn\'t like
whatever it was they came with, so I used JumpDrive to install the
weekly build of Mobian. (Jumpdrive is pretty slick actually--boots from
a tiny image on SD, and lets you re-image the internal flash using dd
over USB in the good old way.)

The main issue with the stock distro (even after updating) was that its
map app was completely useless. At least the Mobian one works, but it
isn\'t turn-by-turn yet, so I\'ll keep using my Garmin for now.
(Blackberry Maps needed a network connection at all times, so the Garmin
was useful even before they turned off BB Maps last June.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

[server]

Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in
news:f3b100c6-b8e0-8755-c99b-f94fc789b1a2@electrooptical.net:

Dean Hoffman wrote:
This might be a trip down memory lane for you professional types.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/01/03/rip-blackberry
-phones-technology/
There\'s a mention about a 4 year old who tried to flush her
mom\'s Blackberry down the toilet.


Yup, I\'m switching to a Linux phone this very day.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Were Blackberry phones ever \"smart\"? I don\'t think so. They were
smart wannabes. Hell an HP PID beat them.

 

[Phil Hobbs]

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in
news:f3b100c6-b8e0-8755-c99b-f94fc789b1a2@electrooptical.net:

Dean Hoffman wrote:
This might be a trip down memory lane for you professional types.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/01/03/rip-blackberry
-phones-technology/
There\'s a mention about a 4 year old who tried to flush her
mom\'s Blackberry down the toilet.


Yup, I\'m switching to a Linux phone this very day.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


Were Blackberry phones ever \"smart\"? I don\'t think so. They were
smart wannabes. Hell an HP PID beat them.

Which ones did you have?

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

 

[server]

Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in
news:sr24a7$1d4q$1@gioia.aioe.org:

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in
news:f3b100c6-b8e0-8755-c99b-f94fc789b1a2@electrooptical.net:

Dean Hoffman wrote:
This might be a trip down memory lane for you professional
types.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/01/03/rip-
blackberry
-phones-technology/
There\'s a mention about a 4 year old who tried to flush her
mom\'s Blackberry down the toilet.


Yup, I\'m switching to a Linux phone this very day.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


Were Blackberry phones ever \"smart\"? I don\'t think so. They were
smart wannabes. Hell an HP PID beat them.


Which ones did you have?

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

To me, all I had was the phones with the keyboard still on them.
One I had and used in VA about 6 years ago, and the other is newer
and I found it in the dumpster after a vacated apartment cleanup.
I works fine and still has an active account, which makes me feel bad
that the tenant got evicted or whatever that they were not able to
get their possessions. There were pills and all kinds of stuff in
there. 4 phones total.

 

[bitrex]

On 1/4/22 7:02 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:

This might be a trip down memory lane for you professional types.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/01/03/rip-blackberry-phones-technology/
There\'s a mention about a 4 year old who tried to flush her mom\'s Blackberry down the toilet.

Back when I was single I went on a few dates with a significantly
younger woman who carried a BlackBerry device long after it was
unfashionable among even among people my age. \"I like the analog buttons
the best, I hate poking at a screen.\" She drove a Chrysler IIRC.

An unusual lady, though unfortunately our short relationship was not to
last. In hindsight I felt like she may have kept a business-oriented
device for the \"business\" of conferring with her many suitors.

A related sea shanty:

<https://youtu.be/b2JO-i2aPs8>

 

[Phil Hobbs]

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in
news:sr24a7$1d4q$1@gioia.aioe.org:

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in
news:f3b100c6-b8e0-8755-c99b-f94fc789b1a2@electrooptical.net:

Dean Hoffman wrote:
This might be a trip down memory lane for you professional
types.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/01/03/rip-
blackberry
-phones-technology/
There\'s a mention about a 4 year old who tried to flush her
mom\'s Blackberry down the toilet.


Yup, I\'m switching to a Linux phone this very day.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


Were Blackberry phones ever \"smart\"? I don\'t think so. They were
smart wannabes. Hell an HP PID beat them.


Which ones did you have?

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


To me, all I had was the phones with the keyboard still on them.
One I had and used in VA about 6 years ago, and the other is newer
and I found it in the dumpster after a vacated apartment cleanup.
I works fine and still has an active account, which makes me feel bad
that the tenant got evicted or whatever that they were not able to
get their possessions. There were pills and all kinds of stuff in
there. 4 phones total.

So none of the Blackberry 10 models then. Yeah, BB7 and earlier were,
well, 2000s-ish. I really like the Classic. The Pinephone will
probably be OK, but we\'ll see.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

[Dean Hoffman]

On Tuesday, January 4, 2022 at 1:26:36 PM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:

On 1/4/22 7:02 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
This might be a trip down memory lane for you professional types.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/01/03/rip-blackberry-phones-technology/
There\'s a mention about a 4 year old who tried to flush her mom\'s Blackberry down the toilet.

Back when I was single I went on a few dates with a significantly
younger woman who carried a BlackBerry device long after it was
unfashionable among even among people my age. \"I like the analog buttons
the best, I hate poking at a screen.\" She drove a Chrysler IIRC.

An unusual lady, though unfortunately our short relationship was not to
last. In hindsight I felt like she may have kept a business-oriented
device for the \"business\" of conferring with her many suitors.

A related sea shanty:

https://youtu.be/b2JO-i2aPs8

I had to look closely to see the glasses in front of the guys on the right
hand side. There\'s no connection but the song
Brandy (You\'re a Fine Girl) by Looking Glass popped into my head.
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTqTE7aNjZQ>

 

[bitrex]

On 1/4/22 5:09 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:

On Tuesday, January 4, 2022 at 1:26:36 PM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
On 1/4/22 7:02 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
This might be a trip down memory lane for you professional types.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/01/03/rip-blackberry-phones-technology/
There\'s a mention about a 4 year old who tried to flush her mom\'s Blackberry down the toilet.

Back when I was single I went on a few dates with a significantly
younger woman who carried a BlackBerry device long after it was
unfashionable among even among people my age. \"I like the analog buttons
the best, I hate poking at a screen.\" She drove a Chrysler IIRC.

An unusual lady, though unfortunately our short relationship was not to
last. In hindsight I felt like she may have kept a business-oriented
device for the \"business\" of conferring with her many suitors.

A related sea shanty:

https://youtu.be/b2JO-i2aPs8

I had to look closely to see the glasses in front of the guys on the right
hand side. There\'s no connection but the song
Brandy (You\'re a Fine Girl) by Looking Glass popped into my head.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTqTE7aNjZQ

Sweet Rickenbacker bass, some nice Wurlitzer piano work on that tune.

Comment: \"The songs we grew up with in the 70’s told stories. They
sucked you in. I can envision Brandy getting the sailors drinks. I can
picture the busy harbor. Stories. Today, it is rare to find any thought
provoking songs. Same old boring crap these days, money money money.\"

Well it\'s a good song but the story is an old one. Here\'s a more recent
popular song with 10 times as many views called \"Bitch I\'m a cow\" (the
boomers love this one):

<https://youtu.be/mXnJqYwebF8>

\"It is what it is\"

 

[bitrex]

On 1/4/22 2:09 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in
news:sr24a7$1d4q$1@gioia.aioe.org:

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in
news:f3b100c6-b8e0-8755-c99b-f94fc789b1a2@electrooptical.net:

Dean Hoffman wrote:
This might be a trip down memory lane for you professional
types.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/01/03/rip-
blackberry
-phones-technology/
There\'s a mention about a 4 year old who tried to flush her
mom\'s Blackberry down the toilet.


Yup, I\'m switching to a Linux phone this very day.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


Were Blackberry phones ever \"smart\"? I don\'t think so. They were
smart wannabes. Hell an HP PID beat them.


Which ones did you have?

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


To me, all I had was the phones with the keyboard still on them.
One I had and used in VA about 6 years ago, and the other is newer
and I found it in the dumpster after a vacated apartment cleanup.
I works fine and still has an active account, which makes me feel bad
that the tenant got evicted or whatever that they were not able to
get their possessions. There were pills and all kinds of stuff in
there. 4 phones total.

The predictive swipe-text input is so much faster than any other method
on a smartphone once you get the hang of it, for most day-to-day use
outside of trying to write about electronics on a mobile device. The
kids these days don\'t sit there doing the two-thumb tap tango like granpa!

 

[Mike Coon]

In article <Fb1BJ.72147$xe2.27000@fx16.iad>, user@example.net says...

An unusual lady, though unfortunately our short relationship was not
to
last. In hindsight I felt like she may have kept a business-oriented
device for the \"business\" of conferring with her many suitors.

A suite of suitors, I guess...

 

[server]

bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
news:gO4BJ.187529$Wkjc.72993@fx35.iad:

On 1/4/22 2:09 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in
news:sr24a7$1d4q$1@gioia.aioe.org:

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in
news:f3b100c6-b8e0-8755-c99b-f94fc789b1a2@electrooptical.net:

Dean Hoffman wrote:
This might be a trip down memory lane for you professional
types.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/01/03/rip-
blackberry
-phones-technology/
There\'s a mention about a 4 year old who tried to flush
her mom\'s Blackberry down the toilet.


Yup, I\'m switching to a Linux phone this very day.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


Were Blackberry phones ever \"smart\"? I don\'t think so. They
were smart wannabes. Hell an HP PID beat them.


Which ones did you have?

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


To me, all I had was the phones with the keyboard still on
them.
One I had and used in VA about 6 years ago, and the other is
newer and I found it in the dumpster after a vacated apartment
cleanup. I works fine and still has an active account, which
makes me feel bad that the tenant got evicted or whatever that
they were not able to get their possessions. There were pills
and all kinds of stuff in there. 4 phones total.


The predictive swipe-text input is so much faster than any other
method on a smartphone once you get the hang of it, for most
day-to-day use outside of trying to write about electronics on a
mobile device. The kids these days don\'t sit there doing the
two-thumb tap tango like granpa!

Them spending so much time texting on a phone to the point that they
get good at that crap are wasting way too much of their time. I am
busy getting shit done. I got no time for texting and when I do it
is concise full words not concatenated fool words. I prefer just
talking hands free as I continue to get whatever I was doing done.
It has wasted hundreds of thousand of hours in the workplace. One
place I worked did not allow them in many labs and some labs you
could not even have a pencil or so much as a toothpick and there were
white noise generators above the doors to keep folks from hearing lab
conversations. Hell, there were labs I was not even allowed in at
that time.

 

[Phil Hobbs]

bitrex wrote:

On 1/4/22 2:09 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in
news:sr24a7$1d4q$1@gioia.aioe.org:

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in
news:f3b100c6-b8e0-8755-c99b-f94fc789b1a2@electrooptical.net:

Dean Hoffman wrote:
This might be a trip down memory lane for you professional
types.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/01/03/rip-
blackberry
-phones-technology/
     There\'s a mention about a 4 year old who tried to flush her
     mom\'s Blackberry down the toilet.


Yup, I\'m switching to a Linux phone this very day.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


Were Blackberry phones ever \"smart\"?  I don\'t think so.  They were
smart wannabes. Hell an HP PID beat them.


Which ones did you have?

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


   To me, all I had was the phones with the keyboard still on them.
One I had and used in VA about 6 years ago, and the other is newer
and I found it in the dumpster after a vacated apartment cleanup.
I works fine and still has an active account, which makes me feel bad
that the tenant got evicted or whatever that they were not able to
get their possessions.  There were pills and all kinds of stuff in
there.  4 phones total.


The predictive swipe-text input is so much faster than any other method
on a smartphone once you get the hang of it, for most day-to-day use
outside of trying to write about electronics on a mobile device. The
kids these days don\'t sit there doing the two-thumb tap tango like granpa!

Now that you\'re in your forties, I notice you whistling much louder when
walking past the graveyard.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

[Sylvia Else]

On 04-Jan-22 11:02 pm, Dean Hoffman wrote:

This might be a trip down memory lane for you professional types.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/01/03/rip-blackberry-phones-technology/
There\'s a mention about a 4 year old who tried to flush her mom\'s Blackberry down the toilet.

A salutatory warning for all those who\'ve bought \"smart\" technology that
relies on a central server. The central server will only exist as long
as it either provides value to the owner, or they think they cannot turn
it off without being sued.

In particular, if the supplier goes bankrupt, the server won\'t be long
for this world.

Sylvia.

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 15:55:37 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
wrote:

On 04-Jan-22 11:02 pm, Dean Hoffman wrote:
This might be a trip down memory lane for you professional types.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/01/03/rip-blackberry-phones-technology/
There\'s a mention about a 4 year old who tried to flush her mom\'s Blackberry down the toilet.

A salutatory warning for all those who\'ve bought \"smart\" technology that
relies on a central server. The central server will only exist as long
as it either provides value to the owner, or they think they cannot turn
it off without being sued.

In particular, if the supplier goes bankrupt, the server won\'t be long
for this world.

Sylvia.

Yes and that likely includes software that just checks for a \'free\' or
\'perpetual\' license now and then.


--
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

 

[Phil Hobbs]

Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 15:55:37 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid
wrote:

On 04-Jan-22 11:02 pm, Dean Hoffman wrote:
This might be a trip down memory lane for you professional types.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/01/03/rip-blackberry-phones-technology/
There\'s a mention about a 4 year old who tried to flush her mom\'s Blackberry down the toilet.

A salutatory warning for all those who\'ve bought \"smart\" technology that
relies on a central server. The central server will only exist as long
as it either provides value to the owner, or they think they cannot turn
it off without being sued.

In particular, if the supplier goes bankrupt, the server won\'t be long
for this world.

Sylvia.

Yes and that likely includes software that just checks for a \'free\' or
\'perpetual\' license now and then.

Nah, the BB still works fine as a wifi-connected pocket computer. It\'s
just the phone stuff and the app store that went away.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 13:36:34 -0500, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

Spehro Pefhany wrote:
On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 15:55:37 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid
wrote:

On 04-Jan-22 11:02 pm, Dean Hoffman wrote:
This might be a trip down memory lane for you professional types.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/01/03/rip-blackberry-phones-technology/
There\'s a mention about a 4 year old who tried to flush her mom\'s Blackberry down the toilet.

A salutatory warning for all those who\'ve bought \"smart\" technology that
relies on a central server. The central server will only exist as long
as it either provides value to the owner, or they think they cannot turn
it off without being sued.

In particular, if the supplier goes bankrupt, the server won\'t be long
for this world.

Sylvia.

Yes and that likely includes software that just checks for a \'free\' or
\'perpetual\' license now and then.



Nah, the BB still works fine as a wifi-connected pocket computer. It\'s
just the phone stuff and the app store that went away.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

I\'m not talking about BB specifically, rather about licensed
commercial EDA software and CAD software that phones home. Or the
license manager software which you have to install phones home.

If you can live with all open source or have hardware dongles it\'s not
an issue.
--
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

 

[Phil Hobbs]

Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 13:36:34 -0500, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

Spehro Pefhany wrote:
On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 15:55:37 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid
wrote:

On 04-Jan-22 11:02 pm, Dean Hoffman wrote:
This might be a trip down memory lane for you professional types.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/01/03/rip-blackberry-phones-technology/
There\'s a mention about a 4 year old who tried to flush her mom\'s Blackberry down the toilet.

A salutatory warning for all those who\'ve bought \"smart\" technology that
relies on a central server. The central server will only exist as long
as it either provides value to the owner, or they think they cannot turn
it off without being sued.

In particular, if the supplier goes bankrupt, the server won\'t be long
for this world.

Sylvia.

Yes and that likely includes software that just checks for a \'free\' or
\'perpetual\' license now and then.



Nah, the BB still works fine as a wifi-connected pocket computer. It\'s
just the phone stuff and the app store that went away.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

I\'m not talking about BB specifically, rather about licensed
commercial EDA software and CAD software that phones home. Or the
license manager software which you have to install phones home.

Yup. Ugly. I\'ve never uses SAAS apps.

If you can live with all open source or have hardware dongles it\'s not
an issue.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com