Best value AA rechargable batteries?

[Jeßus]

Most of my rechargeable AAs are getting a bit sad, time to buy some
new ones. I thought I'd ask here, as you guys would likely save me a
lot of time looking and comparing... thanks.

NB: looking for quality over cheapness...

 

[Bob Milutinovic]

"Jeßus" <none@all.org> wrote in message
news:7d6ht9lssjuolvj6po4ltohf8am0ssgs3g@4ax.com...

Most of my rechargeable AAs are getting a bit sad, time to buy some
new ones. I thought I'd ask here, as you guys would likely save me a
lot of time looking and comparing... thanks.

NB: looking for quality over cheapness...

This article raises some valid points and is liberally sprinkled with
external references;

http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-rechargeable-batteries/

--
Bob Milutinovic
Cognicom

 

[Jeßus]

On Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:05:34 +1000, "Bob Milutinovic"
<cognicom@gmail.com> wrote:

"Jeßus" <none@all.org> wrote in message
news:7d6ht9lssjuolvj6po4ltohf8am0ssgs3g@4ax.com...
Most of my rechargeable AAs are getting a bit sad, time to buy some
new ones. I thought I'd ask here, as you guys would likely save me a
lot of time looking and comparing... thanks.

NB: looking for quality over cheapness...

This article raises some valid points and is liberally sprinkled with
external references;

http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-rechargeable-batteries/

Thanks Bob, ended up buying 8 x 2550mAh Panasonic Eneloop Pros through
ebay.

 

[~misfit~]

Somewhere on teh intarwebs Jeßus wrote:

On Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:05:34 +1000, "Bob Milutinovic"
cognicom@gmail.com> wrote:

"Jeßus" <none@all.org> wrote in message
news:7d6ht9lssjuolvj6po4ltohf8am0ssgs3g@4ax.com...
Most of my rechargeable AAs are getting a bit sad, time to buy some
new ones. I thought I'd ask here, as you guys would likely save me a
lot of time looking and comparing... thanks.

NB: looking for quality over cheapness...

This article raises some valid points and is liberally sprinkled with
external references;

http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-rechargeable-batteries/

Thanks Bob, ended up buying 8 x 2550mAh Panasonic Eneloop Pros through
ebay.

I use Eneloop almost exclusively. However I've found that, with a good
charger / conditioner most name brand cells last well. I have a Maha
MH-C9000 "WizardOne" Charger / Analyser and I haven't had to 'retire' any
reasonable brand cells since getting the Maha (and using it correctly).
Heck, even el-cheapo no-name cells that came with solar garden LEDs are
still going in low-draw devices when charged / conditioned in the Maha.

I use Eneloops in all of my A/V remote controls and they last years between
charge/reconditions.
--
</Shaun>.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long, way when religious belief has a
cozy little classification in the DSM."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)

 

[~misfit~]

Somewhere on teh intarwebs ~misfit~ wrote:
[snip]

I use Eneloop almost exclusively. However I've found that, with a good
charger / conditioner most name brand cells last well. I have a Maha
MH-C9000 "WizardOne" Charger / Analyser and I haven't had to 'retire'
any reasonable brand cells since getting the Maha (and using it
correctly).
[snip]

Having now read the comments below that article I see that a lot of folks
are recommending the LaCrosse charger. A friend of mine had one of those
but, after he came and stayed with me for a while and used my Maha for
charging his camera and flashlight batteries he gave his LaCrosse away and
bought a MH-C9000.

I used to have the URL of a head-to-head shoot-out between the chargers but
can't find it now. :-/
--
</Shaun>.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long, way when religious belief has a
cozy little classification in the DSM."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)

 

[Phil Allison]

"~misfit~"

I use Eneloops in all of my A/V remote controls and they last years
between charge/reconditions.

** Really ?

It must be more economical to use alkalines in low consumption devices like
them.



..... Phil

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 3/08/2014 12:07 PM, Phil Allison wrote:

"~misfit~"


I use Eneloops in all of my A/V remote controls and they last years
between charge/reconditions.

** Really ?

It must be more economical to use alkalines in low consumption devices like
them.

**The best I have had from a set of (4) alkalines was with a JVC TV set
I purchased in 1983. I swapped the batteries out in 2000, when I gave
the JVC to my mum. Each cell had fallen to around 0.9 Volts. Lucky the
JVC used 4 AA cells. No leaks either.


--
Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au

 

[Clocky]

On 3/08/2014 9:33 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:

Somewhere on teh intarwebs Jeßus wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:05:34 +1000, "Bob Milutinovic"
cognicom@gmail.com> wrote:

"Jeßus" <none@all.org> wrote in message
news:7d6ht9lssjuolvj6po4ltohf8am0ssgs3g@4ax.com...
Most of my rechargeable AAs are getting a bit sad, time to buy some
new ones. I thought I'd ask here, as you guys would likely save me a
lot of time looking and comparing... thanks.

NB: looking for quality over cheapness...

This article raises some valid points and is liberally sprinkled with
external references;

http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-rechargeable-batteries/

Thanks Bob, ended up buying 8 x 2550mAh Panasonic Eneloop Pros through
ebay.

I use Eneloop almost exclusively. However I've found that, with a good
charger / conditioner most name brand cells last well. I have a Maha
MH-C9000 "WizardOne" Charger / Analyser and I haven't had to 'retire' any
reasonable brand cells since getting the Maha (and using it correctly).
Heck, even el-cheapo no-name cells that came with solar garden LEDs are
still going in low-draw devices when charged / conditioned in the Maha.

I use Eneloops in all of my A/V remote controls and they last years between
charge/reconditions.

That doesn't make any sense when Alkaline batteries in remote controls
typically last for years anyway and you would be better off putting
those rechargeables in higher drain devices where it would be more
economic to do so.

 

[~misfit~]

Somewhere on teh intarwebs Phil Allison wrote:

"~misfit~"


I use Eneloops in all of my A/V remote controls and they last years
between charge/reconditions.

** Really ?

It must be more economical to use alkalines in low consumption
devices like them.

More economical perhaps. However I'm the son of a proto-tree hugging hippie
and was raised to never use a disposable where a reusable can be employed.
(After confirming that it's not some really nasty reusable environmentally
speaking - I didn't widely adopt Ni-Cads for instance...)

Also I've had *two* remotes ruined by leaking 'fit-and-forget' alkalines,
damn expansive to replace too. I've been using Eneloops since 2007 IIRC and
I've never seen one start to look like it might leak yet. Anyway the ~36
month recharge cycle is great for a quick eyeball of the cell's integrity...
--
</Shaun>.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long, way when religious belief has a
cozy little classification in the DSM."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)

 

[~misfit~]

Somewhere on teh intarwebs Clocky wrote:

On 3/08/2014 9:33 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
Somewhere on teh intarwebs Jeßus wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:05:34 +1000, "Bob Milutinovic"
cognicom@gmail.com> wrote:

"Jeßus" <none@all.org> wrote in message
news:7d6ht9lssjuolvj6po4ltohf8am0ssgs3g@4ax.com...
Most of my rechargeable AAs are getting a bit sad, time to buy
some new ones. I thought I'd ask here, as you guys would likely
save me a lot of time looking and comparing... thanks.

NB: looking for quality over cheapness...

This article raises some valid points and is liberally sprinkled
with external references;

http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-rechargeable-batteries/

Thanks Bob, ended up buying 8 x 2550mAh Panasonic Eneloop Pros
through ebay.

I use Eneloop almost exclusively. However I've found that, with a
good charger / conditioner most name brand cells last well. I have a
Maha MH-C9000 "WizardOne" Charger / Analyser and I haven't had to
'retire' any reasonable brand cells since getting the Maha (and
using it correctly). Heck, even el-cheapo no-name cells that came
with solar garden LEDs are still going in low-draw devices when
charged / conditioned in the Maha. I use Eneloops in all of my A/V remote
controls and they last years
between charge/reconditions.


That doesn't make any sense...

See my reply to Phil. One man's sense is another man's folly.
--
</Shaun>.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long, way when religious belief has a
cozy little classification in the DSM."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)

when Alkaline batteries in remote controls
typically last for years anyway and you would be better off putting
those rechargeables in higher drain devices where it would be more
economic to do so.

 

[Phil Allison]

"~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com

Phil Allison wrote:
"~misfit~"

I use Eneloops in all of my A/V remote controls and they last years
between charge/reconditions.

** Really ?

It must be more economical to use alkalines in low consumption
devices like them.

More economical perhaps.

** No bloody likely !!!.

( apologies to GBS)


> However I'm the son of a proto-tree hugging hippie

** You are Shaun the Sheep Shagger - aren't you ?

From * waaaaaay* back in the days of the Electronics Australia readers
forum.


> and was raised to never use a disposable where a reusable can be employed.

** So you employ re-usable condoms too ??


> Also I've had *two* remotes ruined by leaking 'fit-and-forget' alkalines,

** I've had none - and alkalines never leak until they are dead flat.

damn expansive to replace too. I've been using Eneloops since 2007 IIRC
and I've never seen one start to look like it might leak yet.

** Remotes cost me about 50 cents a year each to keep happy.

No way NiMHs can match that.


..... Phil

 

[Gordon Levi]

"~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:

Somewhere on teh intarwebs Jeßus wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:05:34 +1000, "Bob Milutinovic"
cognicom@gmail.com> wrote:

"Jeßus" <none@all.org> wrote in message
news:7d6ht9lssjuolvj6po4ltohf8am0ssgs3g@4ax.com...
Most of my rechargeable AAs are getting a bit sad, time to buy some
new ones. I thought I'd ask here, as you guys would likely save me a
lot of time looking and comparing... thanks.

NB: looking for quality over cheapness...

This article raises some valid points and is liberally sprinkled with
external references;

http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-rechargeable-batteries/

Thanks Bob, ended up buying 8 x 2550mAh Panasonic Eneloop Pros through
ebay.

I use Eneloop almost exclusively. However I've found that, with a good
charger / conditioner most name brand cells last well. I have a Maha
MH-C9000 "WizardOne" Charger / Analyser and I haven't had to 'retire' any
reasonable brand cells since getting the Maha (and using it correctly).
Heck, even el-cheapo no-name cells that came with solar garden LEDs are
still going in low-draw devices when charged / conditioned in the Maha.

I use Eneloops in all of my A/V remote controls and they last years between
charge/reconditions.

One of my remotes fails after a few months. I decided to change
everything to Enerloop XX not because they were better, let alone
cheaper, but because I thought it would simplify my life stocking only
two different batteries. I even bought some AA to D and C adapters. A
big plus was traveling with only 4 spare batteries and the tiny USB
charger
<http://us.sanyo.com/Battery-Products/AA-2-Pack-with-USB-Charger>.

Unfortunately I can't completely change because a Samsung remote and
my bathroom scales die after a few months. Both use 4 cells and I
assume the problem is because they are fussy about the lower voltage
of NiMh batteries.

As for the Maha charger <http://www.mahaenergy.com/mh-c9000/>, mine
does provide the most entertainment one could get from a battery
charger but that does not really cost justify the purchase price.

 

[~misfit~]

Somewhere on teh intarwebs Phil Allison wrote:

"~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com
Phil Allison wrote:
"~misfit~"

I use Eneloops in all of my A/V remote controls and they last years
between charge/reconditions.

** Really ?

It must be more economical to use alkalines in low consumption
devices like them.

More economical perhaps.

** No bloody likely !!!.

( apologies to GBS)


However I'm the son of a proto-tree hugging hippie

** You are Shaun the Sheep Shagger - aren't you ?

From * waaaaaay* back in the days of the Electronics Australia
readers forum.

No. Wrong person. Never read EA or visited their forums.

and was raised to never use a disposable where a reusable can be
employed.

** So you employ re-usable condoms too ??

No. I just make one last for hours and hours.

Also I've had *two* remotes ruined by leaking 'fit-and-forget'
alkalines,

** I've had none - and alkalines never leak until they are dead
flat.

Because you've had none that doesn't mean it doens't happen.

Also your info is wrong because the last time I had badly leaking alkalines
was in a rarely used remote that I used, thought "this doesn't have Eneloops
in - I'll change it" and, on opening the battery door was greeted by a
sticky, foul mess leaking from one of the cells.

damn expansive to replace too. I've been using Eneloops since 2007
IIRC and I've never seen one start to look like it might leak yet.

** Remotes cost me about 50 cents a year each to keep happy.

I meant expensive to replace remotes, not ther batteries. I had one that
died due to traces lifting on the PCB caused by leaked primary cell juice.
(Not sure that they were alkaline, might have been common 'heavy duty'
things.)

No way NiMHs can match that.


.... Phil

--
</Shaun>.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long, way when religious belief has a
cozy little classification in the DSM."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)

 

[Jeßus]

On Sun, 3 Aug 2014 13:33:31 +1200, "~misfit~"
<shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:

Somewhere on teh intarwebs Jeßus wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:05:34 +1000, "Bob Milutinovic"
cognicom@gmail.com> wrote:

"Jeßus" <none@all.org> wrote in message
news:7d6ht9lssjuolvj6po4ltohf8am0ssgs3g@4ax.com...
Most of my rechargeable AAs are getting a bit sad, time to buy some
new ones. I thought I'd ask here, as you guys would likely save me a
lot of time looking and comparing... thanks.

NB: looking for quality over cheapness...

This article raises some valid points and is liberally sprinkled with
external references;

http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-rechargeable-batteries/

Thanks Bob, ended up buying 8 x 2550mAh Panasonic Eneloop Pros through
ebay.

I use Eneloop almost exclusively. However I've found that, with a good
charger / conditioner most name brand cells last well. I have a Maha
MH-C9000 "WizardOne" Charger / Analyser and I haven't had to 'retire' any
reasonable brand cells since getting the Maha (and using it correctly).
Heck, even el-cheapo no-name cells that came with solar garden LEDs are
still going in low-draw devices when charged / conditioned in the Maha.

I use Eneloops in all of my A/V remote controls and they last years between
charge/reconditions.

Thanks for that. Hmm... I'm using a rather old battery charger, you
have me wondering whether I should look into something a little more
contemporary. Mind you, most of my AA and AAA rechargeables are now
around the 10 y/o mark, so I guess my old charger cannot be too bad.

 

[Jeßus]

On Wed, 06 Aug 2014 09:12:38 +0800, Tony <nomail@nospam.com> wrote:

On 30/07/2014 3:10 PM, Jeßus wrote:
Most of my rechargeable AAs are getting a bit sad, time to buy some
new ones. I thought I'd ask here, as you guys would likely save me a
lot of time looking and comparing... thanks.

NB: looking for quality over cheapness...


Never had to regret buying these:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=39273

They look good Tony, and the price is right too.

I tested them in-circuit with a PIC set-up for capacity and internal
resistance with good results. I use AAs mostly in RC radios.
AAAs are in my remotes and phones.
Using simple Soshine charger or in device low current charging.

Tony

 

[Clocky]

On 6/08/2014 9:12 AM, Tony wrote:

On 30/07/2014 3:10 PM, Jeßus wrote:
Most of my rechargeable AAs are getting a bit sad, time to buy some
new ones. I thought I'd ask here, as you guys would likely save me a
lot of time looking and comparing... thanks.

NB: looking for quality over cheapness...


Never had to regret buying these:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=39273
I tested them in-circuit with a PIC set-up for capacity and internal
resistance with good results. I use AAs mostly in RC radios.
AAAs are in my remotes and phones.
Using simple Soshine charger or in device low current charging.

Tony

Look to be good value, thanks for that.

 

[Jeßus]

On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:11:44 +0800, Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> wrote:

On 6/08/2014 9:12 AM, Tony wrote:
On 30/07/2014 3:10 PM, Jeßus wrote:
Most of my rechargeable AAs are getting a bit sad, time to buy some
new ones. I thought I'd ask here, as you guys would likely save me a
lot of time looking and comparing... thanks.

NB: looking for quality over cheapness...


Never had to regret buying these:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=39273
I tested them in-circuit with a PIC set-up for capacity and internal
resistance with good results. I use AAs mostly in RC radios.
AAAs are in my remotes and phones.
Using simple Soshine charger or in device low current charging.

Tony


Look to be good value, thanks for that.

Very nearly bought a dozen... until the $15 shipping was added.

 

[Tony]

On 22/08/2014 9:09 AM, Jeßus wrote:

On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:11:44 +0800, Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> wrote:

On 6/08/2014 9:12 AM, Tony wrote:
On 30/07/2014 3:10 PM, Jeßus wrote:
Most of my rechargeable AAs are getting a bit sad, time to buy some
new ones. I thought I'd ask here, as you guys would likely save me a
lot of time looking and comparing... thanks.

NB: looking for quality over cheapness...


Never had to regret buying these:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=39273
I tested them in-circuit with a PIC set-up for capacity and internal
resistance with good results. I use AAs mostly in RC radios.
AAAs are in my remotes and phones.
Using simple Soshine charger or in device low current charging.

Tony


Look to be good value, thanks for that.

Very nearly bought a dozen... until the $15 shipping was added.

a bit of a trap, however you have to be aware that HK has also an
Australian warehouse (click top left menu). Which would be even better
if you were in Sydney, to pick up yourself.
The Australia warehouse stocks only the single AA (not 4pack), but
shipping for 12 would be $6.33 courier, or $7.91 AusPost.
$29 for a dozen is still a good price.
If you are in a hurry and happy with second best, the Woollies
Essentials I bought were quite good as well for the money (not sure how
much they were).

Tony

 

[Clocky]

On 22/08/2014 9:09 AM, Jeßus wrote:

On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:11:44 +0800, Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> wrote:

On 6/08/2014 9:12 AM, Tony wrote:
On 30/07/2014 3:10 PM, Jeßus wrote:
Most of my rechargeable AAs are getting a bit sad, time to buy some
new ones. I thought I'd ask here, as you guys would likely save me a
lot of time looking and comparing... thanks.

NB: looking for quality over cheapness...


Never had to regret buying these:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=39273
I tested them in-circuit with a PIC set-up for capacity and internal
resistance with good results. I use AAs mostly in RC radios.
AAAs are in my remotes and phones.
Using simple Soshine charger or in device low current charging.

Tony


Look to be good value, thanks for that.

Very nearly bought a dozen... until the $15 shipping was added.

Welcome to hobbyking.com

I should have realised and mentioned that their ripoff cunts when it
come to shipping - no doubt to subsidise their cheap prices.

I bought a soldering station from them a while ago. It was cheap, but
the shipping costs were extortionate.

Had I known they were so slow to ship I would have bought the same thing
from Ebay, and cheaper so fuck them.

 

[Clocky]

On 23/08/2014 9:36 AM, Tony wrote:

On 22/08/2014 9:21 PM, Clocky wrote:
On 22/08/2014 9:09 AM, Jeßus wrote:
On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:11:44 +0800, Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> wrote:

On 6/08/2014 9:12 AM, Tony wrote:
On 30/07/2014 3:10 PM, Jeßus wrote:
Most of my rechargeable AAs are getting a bit sad, time to buy some
new ones. I thought I'd ask here, as you guys would likely save me a
lot of time looking and comparing... thanks.

NB: looking for quality over cheapness...


Never had to regret buying these:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=39273


I tested them in-circuit with a PIC set-up for capacity and internal
resistance with good results. I use AAs mostly in RC radios.
AAAs are in my remotes and phones.
Using simple Soshine charger or in device low current charging.

Tony


Look to be good value, thanks for that.

Very nearly bought a dozen... until the $15 shipping was added.


Welcome to hobbyking.com

I should have realised and mentioned that their ripoff cunts when it
come to shipping - no doubt to subsidise their cheap prices.

I bought a soldering station from them a while ago. It was cheap, but
the shipping costs were extortionate.

Had I known they were so slow to ship I would have bought the same thing
from Ebay, and cheaper so fuck them.




As an R/C hobbyist I have to disagree.
Yes, they do charge air mail prices for surface mail speed. However, the
overall pricing and sheer number of products beats just about all the
competition. You just have to factor in their shipping costs and time,
order by shopping list and not spontaneous, fill up the parcels to best
efficiency and save. Find out what you can get from the Aussie HK shop
and get stuff from there if you can.

They also have an open feedback system, see what others say. Just
because it doesn't suit you is no reason to rubbish the shop.

I have seen what others have said, and they seem to agree with their
rip-off shipping costs being a real issue.