Bedbugs In A Laptop, How High Temp ?

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This is all I got, I cannot afford a new one. I can't work because of my eyesight but it isn't quite enough to give me disability, even though I would not be able to run a cash register now.

Anyway, we got hit with bedbugs. Two schools got closed over it. It was an epidemic or whatever.

Anyway, my laptop is infested. I have researched and found that when exposed to temperatures of 135 F for like 45 minutes it kills them and their eggs.. The government and the companies who do this assure us that this is safe. It probably is if not running.

I just checked the oven, the lowest it will go is 170 F. Is that safe for a non, running (at the time) computer ? Could it damage the screen if by nothing else but expansion and contraction ?

We are about to bring in new matress and whatever, but anything happening to this laptop IS NOT AN OPTION.
 
On 30/04/17 09:31, jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:

I just checked the oven, the lowest it will go is 170 F. Is that safe
for a non, running (at the time) computer ? Could it damage the
screen if by nothing else but expansion and contraction ?

We are about to bring in new matress and whatever, but anything
happening to this laptop IS NOT AN OPTION.

http://bedbugskilledwithgammairradiation.blogspot.co.uk/


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Adrian C
 
On 30/04/2017 09:31, jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:
This is all I got, I cannot afford a new one. I can't work because of my eyesight but it isn't quite enough to give me disability, even though I would not be able to run a cash register now.

Anyway, we got hit with bedbugs. Two schools got closed over it. It was an epidemic or whatever.

Anyway, my laptop is infested. I have researched and found that when exposed to temperatures of 135 F for like 45 minutes it kills them and their eggs.. The government and the companies who do this assure us that this is safe. It probably is if not running.

I just checked the oven, the lowest it will go is 170 F. Is that safe for a non, running (at the time) computer ? Could it damage the screen if by nothing else but expansion and contraction ?

We are about to bring in new matress and whatever, but anything happening to this laptop IS NOT AN OPTION.

Don't rely on oven gauges, I nearly came a cropper using what I thought
was a low temp set oven. Place a thermometer on insulation at the bottom
of the oven to check first. I had to leave the door open a crack to get
low enough temp
 
<jurb6006@gmail.com> wrote:

This is all I got, I cannot afford a new one. I can't work because of my
eyesight but it isn't quite enough to give me disability, even though I
would not be able to run a cash register now.

Anyway, we got hit with bedbugs. Two schools got closed over it. It was an
epidemic or whatever.

Anyway, my laptop is infested. I have researched and found that when
exposed to temperatures of 135 F for like 45 minutes it kills them and
their eggs. The government and the companies who do this assure us that
this is safe. It probably is if not running.

I just checked the oven, the lowest it will go is 170 F. Is that safe for
a non, running (at the time) computer ? Could it damage the screen if by
nothing else but expansion and contraction ?

We are about to bring in new matress and whatever, but anything happening
to this laptop IS NOT AN OPTION.

Consider Isopropanol, but check with the handbook first to make sure it
will not damage any plastic components such as the screen. If there are
parts of the laptop that might be harmed by liquid, leave the machine in
a sealed plastic bag with the Isopropanol soaked into an absorbent pad
underneath it and let the vapour saturate it for a day or two.

Be careful to make sure all the vapour has dispersed before switching
the machine on again, Isopropanol is very flammable and the vapour could
explode.

Usual disclaimer: at your own risk.


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On 4/30/2017 4:31 AM, jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:
This is all I got, I cannot afford a new one. I can't work because of my eyesight but it isn't quite enough to give me disability, even though I would not be able to run a cash register now.

Anyway, we got hit with bedbugs. Two schools got closed over it. It was an epidemic or whatever.

Anyway, my laptop is infested. I have researched and found that when exposed to temperatures of 135 F for like 45 minutes it kills them and their eggs. The government and the companies who do this assure us that this is safe. It probably is if not running.

I just checked the oven, the lowest it will go is 170 F. Is that safe for a non, running (at the time) computer ? Could it damage the screen if by nothing else but expansion and contraction ?

We are about to bring in new matress and whatever, but anything happening to this laptop IS NOT AN OPTION.

Why can't you treat the laptop the same way you are treating the rest of
the place?

I've never had them, thank God, but I have seen info about them and the
temperature thing is supposed to be for real. It is a way to treat your
entire apartment in fact as insecticides don't work very well. It seems
to be hard to get the chemicals into the spaces where the bugs hide.

--

Rick C
 
On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 01:31:08 -0700 (PDT), jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:

This is all I got, I cannot afford a new one. I can't work because of my eyesight but it isn't quite enough to give me disability, even though I would not be able to run a cash register now.

Anyway, we got hit with bedbugs. Two schools got closed over it. It was an epidemic or whatever.

Anyway, my laptop is infested. I have researched and found that when exposed to temperatures of 135 F for like 45 minutes it kills them and their eggs. The government and the companies who do this assure us that this is safe. It probably is if not running.

I just checked the oven, the lowest it will go is 170 F. Is that safe for a non, running (at the time) computer ? Could it damage the screen if by nothing else but expansion and contraction ?

We are about to bring in new matress and whatever, but anything happening to this laptop IS NOT AN OPTION.

Check how professionals use dry ice for bedbugs. Saw it on TV.


Regards,

Boris Mohar

Got Knock? - see:
Viatrack Printed Circuit Designs (among other things) http://www.viatrack.ca

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On 4/30/2017 8:18 AM, Boris Mohar wrote:
On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 01:31:08 -0700 (PDT), jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:

This is all I got, I cannot afford a new one. I can't work because of my eyesight but it isn't quite enough to give me disability, even though I would not be able to run a cash register now.

Anyway, we got hit with bedbugs. Two schools got closed over it. It was an epidemic or whatever.

Anyway, my laptop is infested. I have researched and found that when exposed to temperatures of 135 F for like 45 minutes it kills them and their eggs. The government and the companies who do this assure us that this is safe. It probably is if not running.

I just checked the oven, the lowest it will go is 170 F. Is that safe for a non, running (at the time) computer ? Could it damage the screen if by nothing else but expansion and contraction ?

We are about to bring in new matress and whatever, but anything happening to this laptop IS NOT AN OPTION.

Check how professionals use dry ice for bedbugs. Saw it on TV.
The dry ice thing is interesting but, it seems to be a way to attract
them. Yes, you can kill the ones you attract, but with a bed bug
infestation it seems you need almost 100% kill otherwise they just breed
and you are right back where you started.
"An individual bed bug can lay 200 to 250 eggs in her lifetime. The eggs
hatch in about 6 to 10 days and the newly emerged bed bug nymphs seek a
blood meal."
I also found 118* for 70 minutes or 122* for 20 minutes.
I'd rig up something and do 118* for 2 hours. That seems much safer
than 138*.

Mikek

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On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 01:31:08 -0700 (PDT), jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:

This is all I got, I cannot afford a new one. I can't work because of my eyesight but it isn't quite enough to give me disability, even though I would not be able to run a cash register now.

Anyway, we got hit with bedbugs. Two schools got closed over it. It was an epidemic or whatever.

Anyway, my laptop is infested. I have researched and found that when exposed to temperatures of 135 F for like 45 minutes it kills them and their eggs. The government and the companies who do this assure us that this is safe. It probably is if not running.

I just checked the oven, the lowest it will go is 170 F. Is that safe for a non, running (at the time) computer ? Could it damage the screen if by nothing else but expansion and contraction ?

We are about to bring in new matress and whatever, but anything happening to this laptop IS NOT AN OPTION.
I know bedbugs need to breathe. If you were to place your laptop in a
plastic bag with a chuck of dry ice, let the dry ice sublimate and
fill the bag with CO2, then seal it in for a week or so, maybe that
would kill 'em.
Eric
 
On 4/30/2017 1:31 AM, jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:
This is all I got, I cannot afford a new one. I can't work because of my eyesight but it isn't quite enough to give me disability, even though I would not be able to run a cash register now.

Anyway, we got hit with bedbugs. Two schools got closed over it. It was an epidemic or whatever.

Anyway, my laptop is infested. I have researched and found that when exposed to temperatures of 135 F for like 45 minutes it kills them and their eggs. The government and the companies who do this assure us that this is safe. It probably is if not running.

I just checked the oven, the lowest it will go is 170 F. Is that safe for a non, running (at the time) computer ? Could it damage the screen if by nothing else but expansion and contraction ?

We are about to bring in new matress and whatever, but anything happening to this laptop IS NOT AN OPTION.
I'd not use a standard oven. The cycling extremes will melt stuff.
Start with an ACCURATE thermometer that you can read with the oven door
closed.
Preheat the oven to 150 F or so then turn it off.
Let it stabilize and let it drift down to your target temperature.
May have to do this more than once to get the heat evenly distributed.
Stick a 100W incandescent light bulb in the oven and watch the
temperature. If it rises, use a smaller bulb. If it drops, use a bigger
bulb.
Or maybe a big bulb on a light dimmer.
You want the heat from the bulb to match the heat loss of the oven.

Now, you have a well-controlled temperature that doesn't have wide
swings as it cycles. I'd still not leave it unattended.
Watch the thermometer. Stuff happens.

I've done the same thing with a cardboard box, but the lack of
insulation makes it less stable.

The weakest link in a laptop is the glue that holds the conductive
strip to the display glass. You don't want that temperature to
go any higher
than absolutely necessary.
 
On Sunday, April 30, 2017 at 1:21:29 PM UTC-4, mike wrote:
On 4/30/2017 1:31 AM, jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:
This is all I got, I cannot afford a new one. I can't work because of my eyesight but it isn't quite enough to give me disability, even though I would not be able to run a cash register now.

Anyway, we got hit with bedbugs. Two schools got closed over it. It was an epidemic or whatever.

Anyway, my laptop is infested. I have researched and found that when exposed to temperatures of 135 F for like 45 minutes it kills them and their eggs. The government and the companies who do this assure us that this is safe. It probably is if not running.

I just checked the oven, the lowest it will go is 170 F. Is that safe for a non, running (at the time) computer ? Could it damage the screen if by nothing else but expansion and contraction ?

We are about to bring in new matress and whatever, but anything happening to this laptop IS NOT AN OPTION.

I'd not use a standard oven. The cycling extremes will melt stuff.
Start with an ACCURATE thermometer that you can read with the oven door
closed.
Preheat the oven to 150 F or so then turn it off.
Let it stabilize and let it drift down to your target temperature.
May have to do this more than once to get the heat evenly distributed.
Stick a 100W incandescent light bulb in the oven and watch the
temperature. If it rises, use a smaller bulb. If it drops, use a bigger
bulb.
Or maybe a big bulb on a light dimmer.
You want the heat from the bulb to match the heat loss of the oven.

Now, you have a well-controlled temperature that doesn't have wide
swings as it cycles. I'd still not leave it unattended.
Watch the thermometer. Stuff happens.

I've done the same thing with a cardboard box, but the lack of
insulation makes it less stable.

The weakest link in a laptop is the glue that holds the conductive
strip to the display glass. You don't want that temperature to
go any higher
than absolutely necessary.




^^^ Best answer^^^

A large cardboard box with an incandescent clamp light will make a nice oven (or preheater for warming up multilayer boards for tough desoldering). Adjustment of the flaps or poking holes will get you where you need to be temp-wise without destroying the computer.
 
jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:

This is all I got, I cannot afford a new one. I can't work because of my
eyesight but it isn't quite enough to give me disability, even though I
would not be able to run a cash register now.

Anyway, we got hit with bedbugs. Two schools got closed over it. It was an
epidemic or whatever.

Anyway, my laptop is infested. I have researched and found that when
exposed to temperatures of 135 F for like 45 minutes it kills them and
their eggs. The government and the companies who do this assure us that
this is safe. It probably is if not running.

I just checked the oven, the lowest it will go is 170 F. Is that safe for
a non, running (at the time) computer ? Could it damage the screen if by
nothing else but expansion and contraction ?

We are about to bring in new matress and whatever, but anything happening
to this laptop IS NOT AN OPTION.
Have you ever left that laptop in a car on a hot day? Did it survive?
If so, then it probably experienced temperatures well over 120 F. I don't
know about the 135 F, though, that is getting pretty hot. I've heard rumors
that a car can get to 160 - 170 F in summer sun. I have doubts a laptop
would survive that.

Jon
 
We use a commercial food dehydrator at work to bake old magnetic tapes that get sticky from moisture absorption. I've used it to dry out electronics that got washed. The dehydrator works in 5°F steps.

How hot does it get in your car on a sunny day? Leave it in there along with a thermometer to monitor the temp.

G²
 
On 30/04/2017 18:31, jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:
This is all I got, I cannot afford a new one. I can't work because of my eyesight but it isn't quite enough to give me disability, even though I would not be able to run a cash register now.

Anyway, we got hit with bedbugs. Two schools got closed over it. It was an epidemic or whatever.

Anyway, my laptop is infested. I have researched and found that when exposed to temperatures of 135 F for like 45 minutes it kills them and their eggs. The government and the companies who do this assure us that this is safe. It probably is if not running.

I just checked the oven, the lowest it will go is 170 F. Is that safe for a non, running (at the time) computer ? Could it damage the screen if by nothing else but expansion and contraction ?

We are about to bring in new matress and whatever, but anything happening to this laptop IS NOT AN OPTION.

The battery won't like being hot.
 
On Mon, 1 May 2017 23:19:26 +1000, Chris Jones
<lugnut808@spam.yahoo.com> wrote:

On 30/04/2017 18:31, jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:
This is all I got, I cannot afford a new one. I can't work because of my eyesight but it isn't quite enough to give me disability, even though I would not be able to run a cash register now.

Anyway, we got hit with bedbugs. Two schools got closed over it. It was an epidemic or whatever.

Anyway, my laptop is infested. I have researched and found that when exposed to temperatures of 135 F for like 45 minutes it kills them and their eggs. The government and the companies who do this assure us that this is safe. It probably is if not running.

I just checked the oven, the lowest it will go is 170 F. Is that safe for a non, running (at the time) computer ? Could it damage the screen if by nothing else but expansion and contraction ?

We are about to bring in new matress and whatever, but anything happening to this laptop IS NOT AN OPTION.


The battery won't like being hot.

The battery can be removed in most Laptops.

Steve

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On Monday, 1 May 2017 09:30:14 UTC+1, stra...@yahoo.com wrote:
We use a commercial food dehydrator at work to bake old magnetic tapes that get sticky from moisture absorption. I've used it to dry out electronics that got washed. The dehydrator works in 5°F steps.

How hot does it get in your car on a sunny day? Leave it in there along with a thermometer to monitor the temp.

G²

Extreme dryness might be another option. Seal it in a bag with a bowl of salt. That kills many bugs, not all, you'd need to check for bedbugs.

The laptop could be its own heater I expect, but I'd be nervous about getting it that hot. I wouldn't do it.


NT
 
On 04/30/2017 09:09 AM, rickman wrote:
On 4/30/2017 4:31 AM, jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:
This is all I got, I cannot afford a new one. I can't work because of
my eyesight but it isn't quite enough to give me disability, even
though I would not be able to run a cash register now.

Anyway, we got hit with bedbugs. Two schools got closed over it. It
was an epidemic or whatever.

Anyway, my laptop is infested. I have researched and found that when
exposed to temperatures of 135 F for like 45 minutes it kills them and
their eggs. The government and the companies who do this assure us
that this is safe. It probably is if not running.

I just checked the oven, the lowest it will go is 170 F. Is that safe
for a non, running (at the time) computer ? Could it damage the screen
if by nothing else but expansion and contraction ?

We are about to bring in new matress and whatever, but anything
happening to this laptop IS NOT AN OPTION.

Why can't you treat the laptop the same way you are treating the rest of
the place?

I've never had them, thank God, but I have seen info about them and the
temperature thing is supposed to be for real. It is a way to treat your
entire apartment in fact as insecticides don't work very well. It seems
to be hard to get the chemicals into the spaces where the bugs hide.

I had a squirrel living in a corner of my garage some years ago, and it
brought bed bugs that crawled up the pipe into a bedroom. They're
miserable, but we had no problems getting rid of them using Permethrin
spray in some quantity plus diatomaceous earth swept into the cracks in
the wood floor and under the moulding.

Since you can't afford to risk the computer, I'd probably just put it
on a Permethrin-treated tray and use it like that for a few months. A
bit of permethrin on the keyboard would probably also be a win. It's
pretty safe stuff, especially when it's had a chance to dry, and it
lasts a long time.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
 
On Monday, 1 May 2017 17:17:34 UTC+1, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 04/30/2017 09:09 AM, rickman wrote:
On 4/30/2017 4:31 AM, jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:
This is all I got, I cannot afford a new one. I can't work because of
my eyesight but it isn't quite enough to give me disability, even
though I would not be able to run a cash register now.

Anyway, we got hit with bedbugs. Two schools got closed over it. It
was an epidemic or whatever.

Anyway, my laptop is infested. I have researched and found that when
exposed to temperatures of 135 F for like 45 minutes it kills them and
their eggs. The government and the companies who do this assure us
that this is safe. It probably is if not running.

I just checked the oven, the lowest it will go is 170 F. Is that safe
for a non, running (at the time) computer ? Could it damage the screen
if by nothing else but expansion and contraction ?

We are about to bring in new matress and whatever, but anything
happening to this laptop IS NOT AN OPTION.

Why can't you treat the laptop the same way you are treating the rest of
the place?

I've never had them, thank God, but I have seen info about them and the
temperature thing is supposed to be for real. It is a way to treat your
entire apartment in fact as insecticides don't work very well. It seems
to be hard to get the chemicals into the spaces where the bugs hide.


I had a squirrel living in a corner of my garage some years ago, and it
brought bed bugs that crawled up the pipe into a bedroom. They're
miserable, but we had no problems getting rid of them using Permethrin
spray in some quantity plus diatomaceous earth swept into the cracks in
the wood floor and under the moulding.

Since you can't afford to risk the computer, I'd probably just put it
on a Permethrin-treated tray and use it like that for a few months. A
bit of permethrin on the keyboard would probably also be a win. It's
pretty safe stuff, especially when it's had a chance to dry, and it
lasts a long time.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

It's safe for humans but far from for animals.

If you're looking for a cheap option, vapona type flykiller sticks containing dichlorvos wipe out insect life pretty well, while windows are closed. 2 of those can wipe a house clean. It is an organophosphate and banned in some places.


NT
 
On 05/01/2017 01:43 PM, tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, 1 May 2017 17:17:34 UTC+1, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 04/30/2017 09:09 AM, rickman wrote:
On 4/30/2017 4:31 AM, jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:
This is all I got, I cannot afford a new one. I can't work
because of my eyesight but it isn't quite enough to give me
disability, even though I would not be able to run a cash
register now.

Anyway, we got hit with bedbugs. Two schools got closed over
it. It was an epidemic or whatever.

Anyway, my laptop is infested. I have researched and found that
when exposed to temperatures of 135 F for like 45 minutes it
kills them and their eggs. The government and the companies who
do this assure us that this is safe. It probably is if not
running.

I just checked the oven, the lowest it will go is 170 F. Is
that safe for a non, running (at the time) computer ? Could it
damage the screen if by nothing else but expansion and
contraction ?

We are about to bring in new matress and whatever, but
anything happening to this laptop IS NOT AN OPTION.

Why can't you treat the laptop the same way you are treating the
rest of the place?

I've never had them, thank God, but I have seen info about them
and the temperature thing is supposed to be for real. It is a
way to treat your entire apartment in fact as insecticides don't
work very well. It seems to be hard to get the chemicals into
the spaces where the bugs hide.


I had a squirrel living in a corner of my garage some years ago,
and it brought bed bugs that crawled up the pipe into a bedroom.
They're miserable, but we had no problems getting rid of them using
Permethrin spray in some quantity plus diatomaceous earth swept
into the cracks in the wood floor and under the moulding.

Since you can't afford to risk the computer, I'd probably just put
it on a Permethrin-treated tray and use it like that for a few
months. A bit of permethrin on the keyboard would probably also be
a win. It's pretty safe stuff, especially when it's had a chance
to dry, and it lasts a long time.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

It's safe for humans but far from for animals.

Depends on the animal. IIRC dogs are OK but not cats. And even a cat
would have to lick the tray pretty hard to get any exposure from dried
permethrin.

If you're looking for a cheap option, vapona type flykiller sticks
containing dichlorvos wipe out insect life pretty well, while windows
are closed. 2 of those can wipe a house clean. It is an
organophosphate and banned in some places.

Yeah, the old No-Pest Strip gizmos.

Doesn't get into the crevices that well though, I don't think.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
 
On 04/30/2017 09:09 AM, rickman wrote:
On 4/30/2017 4:31 AM, jurb...@gmail.com wrote:
This is all I got, I cannot afford a new one. I can't work because of
my eyesight but it isn't quite enough to give me disability, even
though I would not be able to run a cash register now.

Anyway, we got hit with bedbugs. Two schools got closed over it. It
was an epidemic or whatever.

Anyway, my laptop is infested. I have researched and found that when
exposed to temperatures of 135 F for like 45 minutes it kills them and
their eggs. The government and the companies who do this assure us
that this is safe. It probably is if not running.

I just checked the oven, the lowest it will go is 170 F. Is that safe
for a non, running (at the time) computer ? Could it damage the screen
if by nothing else but expansion and contraction ?

We are about to bring in new matress and whatever, but anything
happening to this laptop IS NOT AN OPTION.

Why can't you treat the laptop the same way you are treating the rest of
the place?

I've never had them, thank God, but I have seen info about them and the
temperature thing is supposed to be for real.

I hear that spice extracts drive them away (peppermint oil, spearmint oil, cinnamon oil, vanilla oil, etc..)
 
On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 4:42:46 PM UTC-4, bruce2...@gmail.com wrote:
On 04/30/2017 09:09 AM, rickman wrote:
On 4/30/2017 4:31 AM, jurb...@gmail.com wrote:
This is all I got, I cannot afford a new one. I can't work because of
my eyesight but it isn't quite enough to give me disability, even
though I would not be able to run a cash register now.

Anyway, we got hit with bedbugs. Two schools got closed over it. It
was an epidemic or whatever.

Anyway, my laptop is infested. I have researched and found that when
exposed to temperatures of 135 F for like 45 minutes it kills them and
their eggs. The government and the companies who do this assure us
that this is safe. It probably is if not running.

I just checked the oven, the lowest it will go is 170 F. Is that safe
for a non, running (at the time) computer ? Could it damage the screen
if by nothing else but expansion and contraction ?

We are about to bring in new matress and whatever, but anything
happening to this laptop IS NOT AN OPTION.

Why can't you treat the laptop the same way you are treating the rest of
the place?

I've never had them, thank God, but I have seen info about them and the
temperature thing is supposed to be for real.

I hear that spice extracts drive them away (peppermint oil, spearmint oil, cinnamon oil, vanilla oil, etc..)

Oil of Pennyroyal. Gets rid of anything. DOES NOT KILL - drives stuff away, from fleas to spiders.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
 

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