Be Advised: VIRUS DETECTED

[Randy Gross]

Greetings Group;

I ran a Google search tonight looking for CircuitMaker6 circuits when
I ran across a site that offered a lot of downloads for CircuitMaker:
4,5,6,Pro and 2000. The tip off that something was wrong was when a
"click to view" turned into a "you must download this file first". I
downloaded a "Save to File".

My AVG Resident Shield immediately displayed "VIRUS DETECTED". Someone
has targeted techies for fun and games.

The name of the site is: http://www.crackz-serialz.com/list/c/29

"This" forced download file is: crack023exe.exe

The virus is: Trojan Horse Dropper.Exebundle.AH


Randy

 

[Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su]

"Randy Gross" <aaawelder@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d76ab107.0411131533.75d7f18c@posting.google.com...

Greetings Group;

I ran a Google search tonight looking for CircuitMaker6 circuits when
I ran across a site that offered a lot of downloads for CircuitMaker:
4,5,6,Pro and 2000. The tip off that something was wrong was when a
"click to view" turned into a "you must download this file first". I
downloaded a "Save to File".

My AVG Resident Shield immediately displayed "VIRUS DETECTED". Someone
has targeted techies for fun and games.

The name of the site is: http://www.crackz-serialz.com/list/c/29

"This" forced download file is: crack023exe.exe

The virus is: Trojan Horse Dropper.Exebundle.AH

You shouldn't talk about it. You should contact the provider or
webmaster with that info, so they can shut the site down. And hope they
catch the culprit.

> Randy

 

[Randy Gross]

"Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote in message news:<10pdhckjqjqd57d@corp.supernews.com>...

"Randy Gross" <aaawelder@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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You shouldn't talk about it. You should contact the provider or
webmaster with that info, so they can shut the site down. And hope they
catch the culprit.

My sentiments exactly. I was hoping that someone smarter than I and
more knowledgeable in this matter could home in and drive a nail where
it counts. Wouldn't it be nice if a virus could be reverse engineered
to seek out and destroy its source?

Randy

 

[JeffM]

looking for CircuitMaker6 circuits...crackz-serialz.com..."VIRUS DETECTED"
Randy Gross

...catch the culprit
Watt Sun

I love it. Folks who go to crackz sites and bitch about immoral behavior.

 

[Randy Gross]

jeffm_@email.com (JeffM) wrote in message news:<f8b945bc.0411141522.7fb12b47@posting.google.com>...

looking for CircuitMaker6 circuits...crackz-serialz.com..."VIRUS DETECTED"
Randy Gross

...catch the culprit
Watt Sun

I love it. Folks who go to crackz sites and bitch about immoral behavior.

I don't understand this statement. Do you consider it moral to
intentionally infect someones machine as a matter of course? I, you or
anyone else visiting this site for the first time, in quest of a
technical program like CircuitMaker, won't be aware of pranks,
sadistic humor or whatever the virus was intended for. The moral thing
the webmaster should have done was warn the visitor of the sites
mission.

I didn't like the fact that a virus was sent to my machine, for any
reason, and I'm sure that someone having to deal with the consequences
won't either!

Randy

 

[JeffM]

looking for CircuitMaker6 circuits...crackz-serialz.com..."VIRUS DETECTED"
Randy Gross

I love it. Folks who go to crackz sites and bitch about immoral behavior.
JeffM

I don't understand this statement.
Randy Gross

Obviously.
The words crackz, warez, serialz, keygenz, or variations thereof
are indicatione of illegally-obtained and/or illegally-distributed software.
If you download something from one of these sites,
you are in violation of copyright law, making you a criminal.

Pot, kettle, black.

 

[Randy Gross]

jeffm_@email.com (JeffM) wrote in message news:<f8b945bc.0411152157.245e7dd0@posting.google.com>...

looking for CircuitMaker6 circuits...crackz-serialz.com..."VIRUS DETECTED"
Randy Gross

I love it. Folks who go to crackz sites and bitch about immoral behavior.
JeffM

I don't understand this statement.
Randy Gross

Obviously.
The words crackz, warez, serialz, keygenz, or variations thereof
are indicatione of illegally-obtained and/or illegally-distributed software.
If you download something from one of these sites,
you are in violation of copyright law, making you a criminal.

Pot, kettle, black.

You assume that because I visited the site that I am a pirate. I
already have the software and have had CM6 for almost a year. I was
searching for a CM6 netlist Library when I ran across the site on
Google. I, and I'm probably not alone, know nothing of any *z sites.
If this makes me an "Idiot", then so be it, I do not traffic in any
illegal activity. The original post was for others like me who do an
honest search not expecting deception or attack in this technical
field.

The real question here is if this is known, why is it allowed? We
govern everything else in our society but when it comes to the best
tool that Man has ever conceived, it is treated with great
indifference. Where's a cop when you need one?

Randy

 

[James Beck]

In article <d76ab107.0411161413.17d1d78f@posting.google.com>,
aaawelder@yahoo.com says...

jeffm_@email.com (JeffM) wrote in message news:<f8b945bc.0411152157.245e7dd0@posting.google.com>...
looking for CircuitMaker6 circuits...crackz-serialz.com..."VIRUS DETECTED"
Randy Gross

I love it. Folks who go to crackz sites and bitch about immoral behavior.
JeffM

I don't understand this statement.
Randy Gross

Obviously.
The words crackz, warez, serialz, keygenz, or variations thereof
are indicatione of illegally-obtained and/or illegally-distributed software.
If you download something from one of these sites,
you are in violation of copyright law, making you a criminal.

Pot, kettle, black.

You assume that because I visited the site that I am a pirate. I
already have the software and have had CM6 for almost a year. I was
searching for a CM6 netlist Library when I ran across the site on
Google. I, and I'm probably not alone, know nothing of any *z sites.
If this makes me an "Idiot", then so be it, I do not traffic in any
illegal activity. The original post was for others like me who do an
honest search not expecting deception or attack in this technical
field.

The real question here is if this is known, why is it allowed? We
govern everything else in our society but when it comes to the best
tool that Man has ever conceived, it is treated with great
indifference. Where's a cop when you need one?

Randy

So you were ignorant and now you are educated.

Our work here is done.

 

[Terry Pinnell]

aaawelder@yahoo.com (Randy Gross) wrote:

You assume that because I visited the site that I am a pirate. I
already have the software and have had CM6 for almost a year. I was
searching for a CM6 netlist Library when I ran across the site on
Google. I, and I'm probably not alone, know nothing of any *z sites.
If this makes me an "Idiot", then so be it, I do not traffic in any
illegal activity. The original post was for others like me who do an
honest search not expecting deception or attack in this technical
field.

The real question here is if this is known, why is it allowed? We
govern everything else in our society but when it comes to the best
tool that Man has ever conceived, it is treated with great
indifference. Where's a cop when you need one?

Good question IMO, one I've had myself. But I've always assumed it's
because cracking down on warez etc, so to speak, would inevitably
restrict *legitimate* Usenet operation too. Too many babies with the
bathwater. But it sure makes me annoyed to think of all that theft of
stuff I've either paid for or gone without.

But I suppose I'm stealing too, as I occasionally use one of the
alt.mp3.binaries groups to download a music track. So we're into
*degrees* of theft I guess. Not such a b/w issue as it first
appears...

--
Terry Pinnell
Hobbyist, West Sussex, UK

 

[JeffM]

The words crackz, warez, serialz, keygenz, or variations thereof
are indicatione of illegally-obtained and/or illegally-distributed software.
If you download something from one of these sites,
you are in violation of copyright law, making you a criminal.
JeffM

You assume that because I visited the site that I am a pirate.
Randy Gross

Not what I said.

I hate to hear the words "pirate" and "thief" applied to this activity.
*Theft* means that what was someone's is no longer available to him to use.
The correct term is "copyright infringement".
It is a separate category with separate laws (the line is quickly blurring)
and it may or may not deprive the creator of income.
(Many who engage in this behavior
would not acquire the copyrighted item if they had to pay for it).

I...know nothing of any *z sites...If this makes me an "Idiot"

As Beck alluded, the word is "uninformed".

Those who enforce the law will tell you that "ignorance is no defense".

The real question here is if this is known, why is it allowed?

Ah. Now we get to the heart of the matter--blaming someone else.

**If something looks too good to be true, it probably is.**

As Ban pointed out, stuff that you know is payware is best researched
on the site of the company/individual who created/distributed it.
Price comparisons on legit marketing sites is also a valid step.

Abandonware is a huge gray area.

As for the dot-com top-level domain,
you don't have to be located in the USA to get a URL which ends in .com.
Many warez sites are *.ru or *.cz,
but it's not a hard-and-fast guide to judge by TLD.

If it seems like we're scolding, we are
--but remember *we all started at zero*.

 

[Randy Gross]

jeffm_@email.com (JeffM) wrote in message news:<f8b945bc.0411170142.507a4c40@posting.google.com>...

If it seems like we're scolding, we are
--but remember *we all started at zero*.

I have no problem with this Jeff. I would rather be scolded into
awareness than be branded dishonorable. There is nothing worse than a
backstabber, backshooter, you get my meaning.

I have my "own" website at geocities.com/aaawelder/ (forgive the plug
but it fits this situation). The webmaster of a similar site
discovered that two different sellers at ebay were selling the
contents of our sites. The more thought I gave to it, the more enraged
I became. We combined our efforts to have the listings removed. ebay
will remove when copyright infringement is verified.

I can relate to the property owners who are paying from lost revenue,
and I know that this thread will be a benefit to the unaware, but the
potential of this media will never be realized unless an effective
means of regulation is found to police it. No guardian, no trust.

Randy

 

[Ban]

Randy Gross wrote:

I don't understand this statement. Do you consider it moral to
intentionally infect someones machine as a matter of course? I, you or
anyone else visiting this site for the first time, in quest of a
technical program like CircuitMaker, won't be aware of pranks,
sadistic humor or whatever the virus was intended for. The moral thing
the webmaster should have done was warn the visitor of the sites
mission.

I didn't like the fact that a virus was sent to my machine, for any
reason, and I'm sure that someone having to deal with the consequences
won't either!

Randy,
if you want to download the software, go to this page and pay the price.
http://www.microcode.com/products/ordering.htm#Prices
The student version is free. If you OTH want to get a cracked full version
for free and visit some obscure warez site, it can happen that this guy is
just looking for *idiots* like you. He needs to find computers to send his
spam and uses a backdoor trojan to accomplish it. Now you lament about the
page not being clean, are you? Ridiculous.
--
ciao Ban
Bordighera, Italy