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could this be real?

http://www.zeroenergyphone.com

cheers
 
Matt <ratatak@gmail.com> wrote:
could this be real?

http://www.zeroenergyphone.com
IMO.
No, it's a scam intended to get a few hundred orders, and then the
originator to leave with the money.
Even if the chips need no energy, the transmitter/camera/screen
still do.
There are no new semiconductor processes being designed for the asian
space program (not to mention that there is no such thing (there
are of course national space programs)).
Well, maybe rad-hard chips in a fab somewhere, but they are NOT
anything special, you always pay for rad-hardness in expense and
power use.
 
Ian Stirling <root@mauve.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Matt <ratatak@gmail.com> wrote:
could this be real?

http://www.zeroenergyphone.com

IMO.
No, it's a scam intended to get a few hundred orders, and then the
originator to leave with the money.
Even if the chips need no energy, the transmitter/camera/screen
still do.
To add to this, the couple of technical articles linked have nothing
to do with new processor chips.
Even if you have lower powered memory chips (that one link implied
may be possible), you still need processors, which this will not help
with.
And the other link is just irrelevant.
 
Matt <ratatak@gmail.com> wrote:
could this be real?

http://www.zeroenergyphone.com
Well, the 'crystalline' material image looked suspiciously like salt or
sugar grains.

Pretty lame scam effort.
 
On 7 Nov 2004 08:20:54 -0800, ratatak@gmail.com (Matt) wrote:

could this be real?

http://www.zeroenergyphone.com

cheers

No.

John
 
ratatak@gmail.com (Matt) wrote in message news:<a2db78b3.0411070820.4efe421@posting.google.com>...
could this be real?

http://www.zeroenergyphone.com

cheers
No. To communicate you have to transmit energy. To see a screen you
have to transmit light. Cameras need energy to amplify their signals.
Processors process what... electron currents, ie power.

Notice also that the stated processor specs are wildly in excess of
whats needed to run a mobile phone, and the picture looks like its
been patched together on a pc, rather than a real item photographed.

NT
 
On 7 Nov 2004 08:20:54 -0800, ratatak@gmail.com (Matt) wrote:

could this be real?

http://www.zeroenergyphone.com

cheers
Seeing as your name is 'Matt' and the domain is registered to: 'Matt
Cartwright' (of Siren Publishing in Wolverhampton) I'd say it's fake
and you're trying to pull a fast one, matey!

sPoNiX
 
"Product developer" <jdurban@vorel.com> wrote in message
news:118afaeb.0411081031.34e46e39@posting.google.com...
Notice also that the stated processor specs are wildly in excess of
whats needed to run a mobile phone, and the picture looks like its
been patched together on a pc, rather than a real item photographed.
The phrase, "latest spin-off from the space program" is also always a good
warning bell. :)

I wonder what the purpose of the web site is, though? It says that phones
will be shipping on December 16th, which obviously isn't going to happen.
Will the site just disappear then? Hmm...
 
sPoNiX@yahoo.com (sPoNiX) wrote in message news:<418f97eb.26733687@news.individual.net>...
On 7 Nov 2004 08:20:54 -0800, ratatak@gmail.com (Matt) wrote:

could this be real?

http://www.zeroenergyphone.com

Seeing as your name is 'Matt' and the domain is registered to: 'Matt
Cartwright' (of Siren Publishing in Wolverhampton) I'd say it's fake
and you're trying to pull a fast one, matey!

The odds of that are 1 over the total number of Matts. It would be
remarkably dumb posting that ad on an electronic engineering forum....
but that hasnt always stopped them.


NT
 
N. Thornton wrote:

sPoNiX@yahoo.com (sPoNiX) wrote in message news:<418f97eb.26733687@news.individual.net>...

On 7 Nov 2004 08:20:54 -0800, ratatak@gmail.com (Matt) wrote:


could this be real?

http://www.zeroenergyphone.com



Seeing as your name is 'Matt' and the domain is registered to: 'Matt
Cartwright' (of Siren Publishing in Wolverhampton) I'd say it's fake
and you're trying to pull a fast one, matey!



The odds of that are 1 over the total number of Matts. It would be
remarkably dumb posting that ad on an electronic engineering forum....
but that hasnt always stopped them.


NT
PT Barnum made a serious error when he said "there's a sucker born every
minute" in that he grossly underestimated the true scale of the issue.
There are thousands of suckers born every minute, although nowadays we
call them "consumers"

It never ceases to amaze me the people who fall for the stupid nigerian
scam (and its variants). In the last couple of years in NZ, half a dozen
or so groups have fallen "victim" to this fraud. Surprisingly (or
perhaps unsurprisingly) the poeple losing millions of dollars (ha!
dickheads) have been lawyers, bankers and economists - including the
(former) chief economist of the ASB bank, who lost several million
dollars of his and his friends money. ROTFLMAO

Cheers
Terry

PS wanna buy a bridge?
 
On 8 Nov 2004 14:56:40 -0800, bigcat@meeow.co.uk (N. Thornton) wrote:

The odds of that are 1 over the total number of Matts. It would be
remarkably dumb posting that ad on an electronic engineering forum....
but that hasnt always stopped them.
Well, an almost identical post has appeared in uk.telecom.mobile from
someone called "Matt" and using the email address "Matt@koded.co.uk"..

Do a whois on "koded.co.uk" and you'll see it's registered at the same
address as "zeroenergyphone.com."

Go to www.koded.co.uk and click "view source"....

The result? "Author...Matt Cartwright"

sPoNiX
 
N. Thornton wrote:

It never ceases to amaze me the people who fall for the stupid Nigerian
scam (and its variants). In the last couple of years in NZ, half a dozen
or so groups have fallen "victim" to this fraud. Surprisingly (or
perhaps unsurprisingly) the people losing millions of dollars (ha!
dickheads) have been lawyers, bankers and economists - including the
(former) chief economist of the ASB bank, who lost several million
dollars of his and his friends money. ROTFLMAO
Well, I understand that avariciously stupid people deserve a good lesson,
but if they go to jail we have to pay to keep them there.
If they commit suicide they leave behind upset families.

Most of all I hate the fact that a bunch of thieving vermin are making
millions while I'm trying to earn an honest crust.

They're probably laughing loudest at you and I.

I think the west should deduct the amount scammed from the amount we give
them in aid.

Only then are their governments going to make a crackdown,
when it comes out of their pockets.
 
"Product developer" <jdurban@vorel.com> wrote in message
news:118afaeb.0411090725.127c01fb@posting.google.com...

Yes, the old Nigerian 419 fee in advance scam. Started in the early
90's. Now it has "evolved" into a different format. It is no longer
some top official with the Nigerian Oil Ministry looking to hide 33
million dollars in a foreign bank. Now it comes in the form of an RFQ
asking for pricing of all your products. The new lure is placing a
huge order and then somewhere in the transaction they will need an
advanced payment usually $10,000.00.
It originated much sooner, in the early 1980. Google on the subject.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1020614,00.asp
This particular con actually did begin in Nigeria and predates the Web. In the
original scam, paper letters were sent out by hand, including elaborate packages
of documents. Care went into finding the right suckers. With spam broadcast
mailing, such research is no longer necessary. I predict quality con jobs are
going to be a thing of the past, and Darwinism will take over. The dumbest get
ripped off.

SioL
 
SioL wrote:
"Product developer" <jdurban@vorel.com> wrote in message
news:118afaeb.0411090725.127c01fb@posting.google.com...


Yes, the old Nigerian 419 fee in advance scam. Started in the early
90's. Now it has "evolved" into a different format. It is no longer
some top official with the Nigerian Oil Ministry looking to hide 33
million dollars in a foreign bank. Now it comes in the form of an RFQ
asking for pricing of all your products. The new lure is placing a
huge order and then somewhere in the transaction they will need an
advanced payment usually $10,000.00.


It originated much sooner, in the early 1980. Google on the subject.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1020614,00.asp
This particular con actually did begin in Nigeria and predates the Web. In the
original scam, paper letters were sent out by hand, including elaborate packages
of documents. Care went into finding the right suckers. With spam broadcast
mailing, such research is no longer necessary. I predict quality con jobs are
going to be a thing of the past, and Darwinism will take over. The dumbest get
ripped off.

SioL
In 1993 my R&D manager got one of these letters, from nigeria. The
letter got framed, and put on the wall :)

Cheers
Terry
 
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:55:42 +1300, the renowned Terry Given
<my_name@ieee.org> wrote:

SioL wrote:
"Product developer" <jdurban@vorel.com> wrote in message
news:118afaeb.0411090725.127c01fb@posting.google.com...


Yes, the old Nigerian 419 fee in advance scam. Started in the early
90's. Now it has "evolved" into a different format. It is no longer
some top official with the Nigerian Oil Ministry looking to hide 33
million dollars in a foreign bank. Now it comes in the form of an RFQ
asking for pricing of all your products. The new lure is placing a
huge order and then somewhere in the transaction they will need an
advanced payment usually $10,000.00.


It originated much sooner, in the early 1980. Google on the subject.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1020614,00.asp
This particular con actually did begin in Nigeria and predates the Web. In the
original scam, paper letters were sent out by hand, including elaborate packages
of documents. Care went into finding the right suckers. With spam broadcast
mailing, such research is no longer necessary. I predict quality con jobs are
going to be a thing of the past, and Darwinism will take over. The dumbest get
ripped off.

SioL

In 1993 my R&D manager got one of these letters, from nigeria. The
letter got framed, and put on the wall :)

Cheers
Terry
I got one way back. Printed with a manual typewriter on something
resembling toilet paper. Very authentic- just like they use in the
Nigerian Central bank.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
 
On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 07:25:25 -0800, Product developer wrote:
I milked it until they stopped calling. Nothing more fun than scamming
a scammer.
You dirty rotten scoundrel!

;^j
Cheers!
Rich
 
"Dirk Bruere at Neopax" <dirk@neopax.com> wrote in message
news:2vcpfeF2k1eaoU2@uni-berlin.de...

Aid should *never* be given to governments.
Usually governments are the people who create disasters in the first place.

And pocket aid before it gets to the victims.

Western governments don't seem to care who it gets to.
Just as long as they are seen to be giving out aid money (from our pockets),
they take the public credit (and the private arms contracts).

When money talks - it swears.
 
On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 21:00:33 +0000, the renowned Dirk Bruere at Neopax
<dirk@neopax.com> wrote:

Kryten wrote:

N. Thornton wrote:

It never ceases to amaze me the people who fall for the stupid Nigerian
scam (and its variants). In the last couple of years in NZ, half a dozen
or so groups have fallen "victim" to this fraud. Surprisingly (or
perhaps unsurprisingly) the people losing millions of dollars (ha!
dickheads) have been lawyers, bankers and economists - including the
(former) chief economist of the ASB bank, who lost several million
dollars of his and his friends money. ROTFLMAO


Well, I understand that avariciously stupid people deserve a good lesson,
but if they go to jail we have to pay to keep them there.
If they commit suicide they leave behind upset families.

Most of all I hate the fact that a bunch of thieving vermin are making
millions while I'm trying to earn an honest crust.

They're probably laughing loudest at you and I.

I think the west should deduct the amount scammed from the amount we give
them in aid.

Only then are their governments going to make a crackdown,
when it comes out of their pockets.

Aid should *never* be given to governments.
A lot of so-called "aid" is advanced weaponry. They certainly wouldn't
want that stuff in the hands of their citizens. Hmm... maybe you have
a point!


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
 
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 01:42:20 +0000, Kryten wrote:

"Dirk Bruere at Neopax" <dirk@neopax.com> wrote in message
news:2vcpfeF2k1eaoU2@uni-berlin.de...

Aid should *never* be given to governments.

Usually governments are the people who create disasters in the first place.

And pocket aid before it gets to the victims.

Western governments don't seem to care who it gets to.
Just as long as they are seen to be giving out aid money (from our pockets),
they take the public credit (and the private arms contracts).

When money talks - it swears.
Nah. Money itself is neutral. It's what us peons use to buy stuff
with.

The thing that needs to be examined is intent.

"If intent is to be loving, then sin is not involved."
- God

Cheers!
Rich
 
sPoNiX@yahoo.com (sPoNiX) wrote in message news:<4190a037.7850437@news.individual.net>...
On 8 Nov 2004 14:56:40 -0800, bigcat@meeow.co.uk (N. Thornton) wrote:

The odds of that are 1 over the total number of Matts. It would be
remarkably dumb posting that ad on an electronic engineering forum....
but that hasnt always stopped them.

Well, an almost identical post has appeared in uk.telecom.mobile from
someone called "Matt" and using the email address "Matt@koded.co.uk"..

Do a whois on "koded.co.uk" and you'll see it's registered at the same
address as "zeroenergyphone.com."

Go to www.koded.co.uk and click "view source"....

The result? "Author...Matt Cartwright"

sPoNiX

Barnum was an optimist :)

NT
 

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