Battery Financing < Than Utility Bill

[Bret Cahill]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-05/musk-battery-works-fill-utilities-with-fear-and-promise.html

Musk's so-called gigafactory may soon become an existential threat to the
100-year-old utility business model. The facility will also churn out
stationary battery packs that can be paired with rooftop solar panels to
store power. Already, a second company led by Musk, SolarCity Corp. (SCTY),
is packaging solar panels and batteries to power California homes and
companies including Wal-Mart Stores Inc. (WMT)

 

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 7 Dec 2014 21:39:02 -0800 (PST), jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:

"Gasoline and diesel engines work great. They are not problems that
need to be solved. "

Disagree, in light of the fact that they are poisoning our water table to get it.

That's mostly propaganda and faked videos.

The big well-water hazards are natural arsenic and ag runoffs.

Energy is necessary and dangerous. How many people will die, washing
the dirt off the solar panels on their roofs?




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[Bret Cahill]

"Gasoline and diesel engines work great. They are not problems that
need to be solved. "

Disagree, in light of the fact that they are poisoning our water table to get it.

That's mostly propaganda and faked videos.

The big well-water hazards are natural arsenic and ag runoffs.

Energy is necessary and dangerous. How many people will die, washing
the dirt off the solar panels on their roofs?

Not sure how Ralph Nader feels about this but the number of deaths from developing renewable energy should be pro rated to match those from steam.

Say 5800/yr died from boiler explosions and coal mining accidents when the population was one billion.

With 8 billion people on the planet the acceptable number of deaths from washing solar panels and falling off wind turbines should be 8 X 5800 = 46,400/year.

Sound reasonable?


Bret Cahill

 

On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 15:33:02 -0800, John Larkin
&lt;jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com&gt; wrote:

On Sun, 7 Dec 2014 21:39:02 -0800 (PST), jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:

"Gasoline and diesel engines work great. They are not problems that
need to be solved. "

Disagree, in light of the fact that they are poisoning our water table to get it.

That's mostly propaganda and faked videos.

The big well-water hazards are natural arsenic and ag runoffs.

Energy is necessary and dangerous. How many people will die, washing
the dirt off the solar panels on their roofs?

That's an interesting question, deaths from falls cleaning solar
panels. In Germany there many more solar panels per capita installed
on private homes than in the USA. It would be nice to know how many
injuries are attributable to solar panel cleaning there since the big
push in Germany to get the solar panels installed. Lots of people pay
to get their roofs cleaned but not that often, maybe once a year in
areas where lots leaves and branches land on roofs. And people tend to
put off that kind of thing because the payoff doesn't seem that great.
But occluding dirt is much more widespread than occluding leaves and
branches, and the effect of the dirt is easy to see when comparing
clean panels to dirty ones so the incentive to keep that part of the
roof clean is high even where no trees are present. I have vertigo and
so should never climb a ladder more than a few feet because my balance
is so bad. Nevertheless my wife has chewed my ass a few times because
I was on the roof fixing or cleaning something. And I'm cheap. And not
unique. So I can see a bunch of cheapskates like me up on their roofs
cleaning panels to make a little more money and falling off.
Eric