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micky
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I have a tv remote that was working up until 3 or 4 days ago, and its
batteries have leaked. I didn\'t think that was possible.
batteries have leaked. I didn\'t think that was possible.
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Bob F
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On 8/7/2023 4:45 PM, micky wrote:
Only if you ignore the batteries until they leak.
I have a tv remote that was working up until 3 or 4 days ago, and its
batteries have leaked. I didn\'t think that was possible.
Only if you ignore the batteries until they leak.
J
Jeroni Paul
Guest
micky wrote:
Yes, very possible, some batteries leak even if still good. I have fixed many things affected by leaks, usually if not left long enough all it needs is cleaning. Also the leak can travel upwards against gravity, because the battery is at the bottom does not stop it to reach the electronics.
I have a tv remote that was working up until 3 or 4 days ago, and its
batteries have leaked. I didn\'t think that was possible.
Yes, very possible, some batteries leak even if still good. I have fixed many things affected by leaks, usually if not left long enough all it needs is cleaning. Also the leak can travel upwards against gravity, because the battery is at the bottom does not stop it to reach the electronics.
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Greta Thongturd
Guest
micky wrote:
How dare you! Disposable batteries cause climate change. C\'mon man!
A true liberal democrat would use rechargeables, preferably made from materials mined with child labor.
I have a tv remote that was working up until 3 or 4 days ago, and its
batteries have leaked. I didn\'t think that was possible.
How dare you! Disposable batteries cause climate change. C\'mon man!
A true liberal democrat would use rechargeables, preferably made from materials mined with child labor.
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server
Guest
On Mon, 07 Aug 2023 19:45:43 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:
Most TV remotes have power on all the time regardless of the
batteries. Rechargeable batteries don\'t last for ever. I\'ve never
found a type of battery that does not leak after a few years.
wrote:
I have a tv remote that was working up until 3 or 4 days ago, and its
batteries have leaked. I didn\'t think that was possible.
Most TV remotes have power on all the time regardless of the
batteries. Rechargeable batteries don\'t last for ever. I\'ve never
found a type of battery that does not leak after a few years.
J
John Robertson
Guest
On 2023/08/07 4:45 p.m., micky wrote:
Remove dead batteries and carefully scrub the battery compartment and
wiring with a 50:50 mixture of white vinegar and water. Don\'t let this
get to the button pads!
Best if you can take the control apart - usually they snap together so
pry apart with a very thin blade. Or they are held together with Philips
screw(s).
Good luck! You may well need a new remote though.
Change batteries once a year on your birthday - you\'d possibly be
surprised how many disposible battery devices you have roaming around
your home.
John :-#)#
--
(Please post followups or tech inquiries to the USENET newsgroup)
John\'s Jukes Ltd.
#7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
(604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
www.flippers.com
\"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out.\"
I have a tv remote that was working up until 3 or 4 days ago, and its
batteries have leaked. I didn\'t think that was possible.
Remove dead batteries and carefully scrub the battery compartment and
wiring with a 50:50 mixture of white vinegar and water. Don\'t let this
get to the button pads!
Best if you can take the control apart - usually they snap together so
pry apart with a very thin blade. Or they are held together with Philips
screw(s).
Good luck! You may well need a new remote though.
Change batteries once a year on your birthday - you\'d possibly be
surprised how many disposible battery devices you have roaming around
your home.
John :-#)#
--
(Please post followups or tech inquiries to the USENET newsgroup)
John\'s Jukes Ltd.
#7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
(604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
www.flippers.com
\"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out.\"
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Bob F
Guest
On 8/8/2023 8:03 AM, John Robertson wrote:
I have never had anything damaged by NiCd or NiMh battery leakage.
Has anyone else?
On 2023/08/07 4:45 p.m., micky wrote:
I have a tv remote that was working up until 3 or 4 days ago, and its
batteries have leaked.  I didn\'t think that was possible.
Remove dead batteries and carefully scrub the battery compartment and
wiring with a 50:50 mixture of white vinegar and water. Don\'t let this
get to the button pads!
Best if you can take the control apart - usually they snap together so
pry apart with a very thin blade. Or they are held together with Philips
screw(s).
Good luck! You may well need a new remote though.
Change batteries once a year on your birthday - you\'d possibly be
surprised how many disposible battery devices you have roaming around
your home.
I have never had anything damaged by NiCd or NiMh battery leakage.
Has anyone else?
J
John Robertson
Guest
On 2023/08/08 8:34 a.m., Bob F wrote:
Ni-Cad batteries have killed many a pinball and jukebox PCB...
https://flippers.com/battery.html
John :-#(#
--
(Please post followups or tech inquiries to the USENET newsgroup)
John\'s Jukes Ltd.
#7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
(604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
www.flippers.com
\"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out.\"
On 8/8/2023 8:03 AM, John Robertson wrote:
On 2023/08/07 4:45 p.m., micky wrote:
I have a tv remote that was working up until 3 or 4 days ago, and its
batteries have leaked.  I didn\'t think that was possible.
Remove dead batteries and carefully scrub the battery compartment and
wiring with a 50:50 mixture of white vinegar and water. Don\'t let this
get to the button pads!
Best if you can take the control apart - usually they snap together so
pry apart with a very thin blade. Or they are held together with
Philips screw(s).
Good luck! You may well need a new remote though.
Change batteries once a year on your birthday - you\'d possibly be
surprised how many disposible battery devices you have roaming around
your home.
I have never had anything damaged by NiCd or NiMh battery leakage.
Has anyone else?
Ni-Cad batteries have killed many a pinball and jukebox PCB...
https://flippers.com/battery.html
John :-#(#
--
(Please post followups or tech inquiries to the USENET newsgroup)
John\'s Jukes Ltd.
#7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
(604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
www.flippers.com
\"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out.\"
T
The Real Bev
Guest
On 8/8/23 8:03 AM, John Robertson wrote:
I\'ve had Kirkland, Duracell and Maxell batteries leak IN THEIR ORIGINAL
CONTAINERS as well as in rarely-used equipment years under their printed
expiration dates. I returned the Duracells and Kirklands and bought
Energizers -- which claim to replace any equipment damaged by Energizer
leakage. So far I haven\'t seen a single one leak.
--
Cheers, Bev
\"Anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority.\"
-- U.S. Supreme Court, McIntyre v Ohio Elections,1995
On 2023/08/07 4:45 p.m., micky wrote:
I have a tv remote that was working up until 3 or 4 days ago, and its
batteries have leaked. I didn\'t think that was possible.
Remove dead batteries and carefully scrub the battery compartment and
wiring with a 50:50 mixture of white vinegar and water. Don\'t let this
get to the button pads!
Best if you can take the control apart - usually they snap together so
pry apart with a very thin blade. Or they are held together with Philips
screw(s).
Good luck! You may well need a new remote though.
Change batteries once a year on your birthday - you\'d possibly be
surprised how many disposible battery devices you have roaming around
your home.
I\'ve had Kirkland, Duracell and Maxell batteries leak IN THEIR ORIGINAL
CONTAINERS as well as in rarely-used equipment years under their printed
expiration dates. I returned the Duracells and Kirklands and bought
Energizers -- which claim to replace any equipment damaged by Energizer
leakage. So far I haven\'t seen a single one leak.
--
Cheers, Bev
\"Anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority.\"
-- U.S. Supreme Court, McIntyre v Ohio Elections,1995
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Brian Gregory
Guest
On 08/08/2023 16:34, Bob F wrote:
Only when accidentally over charged at a fairly high current for much
too long a time.
--
Brian Gregory (in England).
I have never had anything damaged by NiCd or NiMh battery leakage.
Has anyone else?
Only when accidentally over charged at a fairly high current for much
too long a time.
--
Brian Gregory (in England).
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Brian Gregory
Guest
On 08/08/2023 15:08, steve1001908@outlook.com wrote:
I\'ve yet to have an Energizer Ultimate Lithium leak.
But maybe I will one day.
--
Brian Gregory (in England).
On Mon, 07 Aug 2023 19:45:43 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com
wrote:
I have a tv remote that was working up until 3 or 4 days ago, and its
batteries have leaked. I didn\'t think that was possible.
Most TV remotes have power on all the time regardless of the
batteries. Rechargeable batteries don\'t last for ever. I\'ve never
found a type of battery that does not leak after a few years.
I\'ve yet to have an Energizer Ultimate Lithium leak.
But maybe I will one day.
--
Brian Gregory (in England).
B
Brian Gregory
Guest
On 12/08/2023 22:17, The Real Bev wrote:
I believe the Energizer guarantee only applies to Energizer Max, not
other types, and probably not even Energizer MaxPlus.
https://www.energizer.com/about-batteries/no-leaks-guarantee
--
Brian Gregory (in England).
I\'ve had Kirkland, Duracell and Maxell batteries leak IN THEIR ORIGINAL
CONTAINERS as well as in rarely-used equipment years under their printed
expiration dates.  I returned the Duracells and Kirklands and bought
Energizers -- which claim to replace any equipment damaged by Energizer
leakage. So far I haven\'t seen a single one leak.
I believe the Energizer guarantee only applies to Energizer Max, not
other types, and probably not even Energizer MaxPlus.
https://www.energizer.com/about-batteries/no-leaks-guarantee
--
Brian Gregory (in England).
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Brian Gregory
Guest
On 13/08/2023 02:24, Brian Gregory wrote:
Ah ha:
<https://energizer.eu/wp-content/uploads/sites/105/2021/02/ENR1209_TermsConditions_V5HIGH.pdf>
--
Brian Gregory (in England).
I believe the Energizer guarantee only applies to Energizer Max, not
other types, and probably not even Energizer MaxPlus.
https://www.energizer.com/about-batteries/no-leaks-guarantee
Ah ha:
<https://energizer.eu/wp-content/uploads/sites/105/2021/02/ENR1209_TermsConditions_V5HIGH.pdf>
--
Brian Gregory (in England).
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Chuck
Guest
On Sun, 13 Aug 2023 02:20:34 +0100, Brian Gregory
<void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:
Me either, and I\'ve been using a large quantity of them for years.
<void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:
On 08/08/2023 15:08, steve1001908@outlook.com wrote:
On Mon, 07 Aug 2023 19:45:43 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com
wrote:
I have a tv remote that was working up until 3 or 4 days ago, and its
batteries have leaked. I didn\'t think that was possible.
Most TV remotes have power on all the time regardless of the
batteries. Rechargeable batteries don\'t last for ever. I\'ve never
found a type of battery that does not leak after a few years.
I\'ve yet to have an Energizer Ultimate Lithium leak.
But maybe I will one day.
Me either, and I\'ve been using a large quantity of them for years.
T
The Real Bev
Guest
On 8/12/23 6:24 PM, Brian Gregory wrote:
The Energizer Max batteries are the common ones available at Walmart and
Sam\'s, equivalent to the Duracells you get at Costco. Good enough. 10
years. Corsair power supplies give a 10-year warranty. -- which we just
took advantage of after under 2 years. I wonder what else. Samsung $1K
stove had a 1-year warranty. Needed at 8-10 months. I don\'t care what
anyone says about Samsung\'s quality, if it only lasts a year it\'s worthless.
> https://www.energizer.com/about-batteries/no-leaks-guarantee
https://www.energizer.com/about-batteries/battery-leakage
Energizer MAX
Energizer® EcoAdvanced® AA/AAA Alkaline
Energizer® hearing aid batteries
Energizer Recharge® Power Plus and Energizer Recharge® Universal
AA/AAA batteries for up to one year after full discharge
Energizer® Ultimate Lithium⢠Batteries (call for details)
It\'s nice when a company is proud of what it makes.
I bought a charger and set of Duracells for my Nikon digital camera in
1999 or so. They stopped holding a charge, so Duracell sent me a gift
cert for a new set. Wash, rinse, repeat. I ended up with a set of
precharged Duracells (Eneloop-type) which were no better than the
others. None of the rechargeables worked well in my Canon 720IS. I
really want to use rechargeables, but they don\'t work worth shit,
especially in things not used regularly.
--
Cheers, Bev
What if there were no hypothetical questions?
On 12/08/2023 22:17, The Real Bev wrote:
I\'ve had Kirkland, Duracell and Maxell batteries leak IN THEIR ORIGINAL
CONTAINERS as well as in rarely-used equipment years under their printed
expiration dates.  I returned the Duracells and Kirklands and bought
Energizers -- which claim to replace any equipment damaged by Energizer
leakage. So far I haven\'t seen a single one leak.
I believe the Energizer guarantee only applies to Energizer Max, not
other types, and probably not even Energizer MaxPlus.
The Energizer Max batteries are the common ones available at Walmart and
Sam\'s, equivalent to the Duracells you get at Costco. Good enough. 10
years. Corsair power supplies give a 10-year warranty. -- which we just
took advantage of after under 2 years. I wonder what else. Samsung $1K
stove had a 1-year warranty. Needed at 8-10 months. I don\'t care what
anyone says about Samsung\'s quality, if it only lasts a year it\'s worthless.
> https://www.energizer.com/about-batteries/no-leaks-guarantee
https://www.energizer.com/about-batteries/battery-leakage
Energizer MAX
Energizer® EcoAdvanced® AA/AAA Alkaline
Energizer® hearing aid batteries
Energizer Recharge® Power Plus and Energizer Recharge® Universal
AA/AAA batteries for up to one year after full discharge
Energizer® Ultimate Lithium⢠Batteries (call for details)
It\'s nice when a company is proud of what it makes.
I bought a charger and set of Duracells for my Nikon digital camera in
1999 or so. They stopped holding a charge, so Duracell sent me a gift
cert for a new set. Wash, rinse, repeat. I ended up with a set of
precharged Duracells (Eneloop-type) which were no better than the
others. None of the rechargeables worked well in my Canon 720IS. I
really want to use rechargeables, but they don\'t work worth shit,
especially in things not used regularly.
--
Cheers, Bev
What if there were no hypothetical questions?
B
Bob F
Guest
On 8/13/2023 11:34 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
I think it is often a matter of devices not designed properly for NiCd
and NiMh batteries lower voltage. Designed for alkaline 1.5V batteries,
they think the battery is dead with lower voltage rechargeables that
provide most of their power just above 1.2V.
On 8/12/23 6:24 PM, Brian Gregory wrote:
On 12/08/2023 22:17, The Real Bev wrote:
I\'ve had Kirkland, Duracell and Maxell batteries leak IN THEIR
ORIGINAL CONTAINERS as well as in rarely-used equipment years under
their printed expiration dates.  I returned the Duracells and
Kirklands and bought Energizers -- which claim to replace any
equipment damaged by Energizer leakage. So far I haven\'t seen a
single one leak.
I believe the Energizer guarantee only applies to Energizer Max, not
other types, and probably not even Energizer MaxPlus.
The Energizer Max batteries are the common ones available at Walmart and
Sam\'s, equivalent to the Duracells you get at Costco. Good enough. 10
years. Corsair power supplies give a 10-year warranty. -- which we just
took advantage of after under 2 years. I wonder what else. Samsung $1K
stove had a 1-year warranty. Needed at 8-10 months. I don\'t care what
anyone says about Samsung\'s quality, if it only lasts a year it\'s
worthless.
https://www.energizer.com/about-batteries/no-leaks-guarantee
https://www.energizer.com/about-batteries/battery-leakage
Energizer MAX
Energizer® EcoAdvanced® AA/AAA Alkaline
Energizer® hearing aid batteries
Energizer Recharge® Power Plus and Energizer Recharge® Universal
      AA/AAA batteries for up to one year after full discharge
Energizer® Ultimate Lithium⢠Batteries (call for details)
It\'s nice when a company is proud of what it makes.
I bought a charger and set of Duracells for my Nikon digital camera in
1999 or so. They stopped holding a charge, so Duracell sent me a gift
cert for a new set. Wash, rinse, repeat. I ended up with a set of
precharged Duracells (Eneloop-type) which were no better than the
others. None of the rechargeables worked well in my Canon 720IS. I
really want to use rechargeables, but they don\'t work worth shit,
especially in things not used regularly.
I think it is often a matter of devices not designed properly for NiCd
and NiMh batteries lower voltage. Designed for alkaline 1.5V batteries,
they think the battery is dead with lower voltage rechargeables that
provide most of their power just above 1.2V.
S
server
Guest
On Sun, 13 Aug 2023 02:20:34 +0100, Brian Gregory
<void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:
I have not used them. I will try one the next time I need a new
rechargeable in either of my TV remotes.
<void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:
On 08/08/2023 15:08, steve1001908@outlook.com wrote:
On Mon, 07 Aug 2023 19:45:43 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com
wrote:
I have a tv remote that was working up until 3 or 4 days ago, and its
batteries have leaked. I didn\'t think that was possible.
Most TV remotes have power on all the time regardless of the
batteries. Rechargeable batteries don\'t last for ever. I\'ve never
found a type of battery that does not leak after a few years.
I\'ve yet to have an Energizer Ultimate Lithium leak.
But maybe I will one day.
I have not used them. I will try one the next time I need a new
rechargeable in either of my TV remotes.
J
Jeroni Paul
Guest
steve1...@outlook.com wrote:
For low power devices like clocks and remotes, rechargeables do not work well (NiCd and NiMH). They do not last as long and when the device stops working they have been discharged for so long that their internal chemistry is damaged and go high resistance. Due to that some smart charges may refuse to charge them, sometimes they can be recovered with some charge-discharge cycles but will not be like new. Rechargeables are much better for high power devices that will cycle them frequently.
I have not used them. I will try one the next time I need a new
rechargeable in either of my TV remotes.
For low power devices like clocks and remotes, rechargeables do not work well (NiCd and NiMH). They do not last as long and when the device stops working they have been discharged for so long that their internal chemistry is damaged and go high resistance. Due to that some smart charges may refuse to charge them, sometimes they can be recovered with some charge-discharge cycles but will not be like new. Rechargeables are much better for high power devices that will cycle them frequently.
S
server
Guest
On Mon, 14 Aug 2023 05:39:25 -0700 (PDT), Jeroni Paul
<JERONI.PAUL@terra.es> wrote:
That\'s good advice. I\'ll change the batteries in my remotes. I\'m sure
they were supplied with rechargeable but perhaps not!
<JERONI.PAUL@terra.es> wrote:
steve1...@outlook.com wrote:
I have not used them. I will try one the next time I need a new
rechargeable in either of my TV remotes.
For low power devices like clocks and remotes, rechargeables do not work well (NiCd and NiMH). They do not last as long and when the device stops working they have been discharged for so long that their internal chemistry is damaged and go high resistance. Due to that some smart charges may refuse to charge them, sometimes they can be recovered with some charge-discharge cycles but will not be like new. Rechargeables are much better for high power devices that will cycle them frequently.
That\'s good advice. I\'ll change the batteries in my remotes. I\'m sure
they were supplied with rechargeable but perhaps not!