Batteries in the fridge

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Rich Grise

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Anybody remember zinc-carbon cells? IIRC, it was recommended that spares of
them be kept in the refrigerator, because the cold temp. slows down the
chemical reaction that leads to self-discharge.

Two questions: A, is that true, and B, does the same apply to new alkalines?

(I needed two AA's for my wall clock, and a four-pack was on sale for four
bucks, so I'll have two lying around until I need them for whichever
appliance needs batteries next.)

Thanks,
Rich
 
Rich Grise wrote:
Anybody remember zinc-carbon cells? IIRC, it was recommended that spares of
them be kept in the refrigerator, because the cold temp. slows down the
chemical reaction that leads to self-discharge.

Two questions: A, is that true, and B, does the same apply to new alkalines?

(I needed two AA's for my wall clock, and a four-pack was on sale for four
bucks, so I'll have two lying around until I need them for whichever
appliance needs batteries next.)

Thanks,
Rich

It even applies to almost all chemical reactions.
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"Rich Grise" wrote in message
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Anybody remember zinc-carbon cells? IIRC, it was recommended that spares of
them be kept in the refrigerator, because the cold temp. slows down the
chemical reaction that leads to self-discharge.

Two questions: A, is that true, and B, does the same apply to new alkalines?

(I needed two AA's for my wall clock, and a four-pack was on sale for four
bucks, so I'll have two lying around until I need them for whichever
appliance needs batteries next.)

Thanks,
Rich
The chemical reaction would be slowed but it's generally accepted that it's
not good for batteries or at least not necessary.
Tom.
 
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 19:02:49 -0500, "Tom Biasi" <tombiasi@optonline.net>
wrote:

"Rich Grise" wrote in message
news:ifj0oa$mma$1@news.eternal-september.org...

Anybody remember zinc-carbon cells? IIRC, it was recommended that spares of
them be kept in the refrigerator, because the cold temp. slows down the
chemical reaction that leads to self-discharge.

Two questions: A, is that true, and B, does the same apply to new alkalines?

(I needed two AA's for my wall clock, and a four-pack was on sale for four
bucks, so I'll have two lying around until I need them for whichever
appliance needs batteries next.)

Thanks,
Rich
The chemical reaction would be slowed but it's generally accepted that it's
not good for batteries or at least not necessary.
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Who is this General guy?
 
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 14:23:04 -0800, Rich Grise <richg@example.net.invalid>
wrote:

Anybody remember zinc-carbon cells? IIRC, it was recommended that spares of
them be kept in the refrigerator, because the cold temp. slows down the
chemical reaction that leads to self-discharge.

Two questions: A, is that true, and B, does the same apply to new alkalines?
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Chances are (i.e. they haven't been sitting on the store shelf for five years)
that they'll be fine when you need them. Referating them won't hurt them and
will help shelf-life.

(I needed two AA's for my wall clock, and a four-pack was on sale for four
bucks, so I'll have two lying around until I need them for whichever
appliance needs batteries next.)
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You got ripped off. They're 36 for $12 at the BORG and off-brand, but just as
good, are $20/hundred.
 
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 18:10:58 -0600, "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
<krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

You got ripped off. They're 36 for $12 at the BORG and off-brand, but just as
good, are $20/hundred.
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My real world experience (6 years with a wireless alarm system) has
shown Duiracells to deliver more consistent voltage in varied
temperatures than any other brand (including the other "name" brands).
The remote alarm sensors may be anywhere from 35F to 95F over a period
of months and the Duracells have fewer low voltage alarms.

John
 
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 19:02:49 -0500, "Tom Biasi" <tombiasi@optonline.net>
wrote:

"Rich Grise" wrote in message
news:ifj0oa$mma$1@news.eternal-september.org...

Anybody remember zinc-carbon cells? IIRC, it was recommended that spares of
them be kept in the refrigerator, because the cold temp. slows down the
chemical reaction that leads to self-discharge.

Two questions: A, is that true, and B, does the same apply to new
alkalines?

(I needed two AA's for my wall clock, and a four-pack was on sale for four
bucks, so I'll have two lying around until I need them for whichever
appliance needs batteries next.)

Thanks,
Rich
The chemical reaction would be slowed but it's generally accepted that it's
not good for batteries or at least not necessary.
Click to expand...
Who is this General guy?

Well, there are many sources if you don't like one.

http://www.snopes.com/oldwives/battery.asp

The quotes from Duracell and Energizer checked out. You may do your own
checking and rebut if you like.
Tom
 
"Rich Grise" <richg@example.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:ifj0oa$mma$1@news.eternal-september.org...
Anybody remember zinc-carbon cells? IIRC, it was recommended that spares
of
them be kept in the refrigerator, because the cold temp. slows down the
chemical reaction that leads to self-discharge.

Two questions: A, is that true, and B, does the same apply to new
alkalines?

The Eveready Site posts the following:
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Should I store alkaline batteries in the refrigerator?
Storing batteries in refrigerators or freezers is not required or
recommended for batteries produced today.
In fact, cold temperature storage can harm batteries. To maximize
performance and shelf life, store
batteries at normal room temperatures with moderate humidity levels
 
On Dec 30, 8:48 pm, "Tom Biasi" <tombi...@optonline.net> wrote:
wrote in messagenews:0k7qh6ttjvk2143ijcibdlt7aklu4jldi3@4ax.com...

On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 19:02:49 -0500, "Tom Biasi" <tombi...@optonline.net
wrote:







"Rich Grise"  wrote in message
news:ifj0oa$mma$1@news.eternal-september.org...

Anybody remember zinc-carbon cells? IIRC, it was recommended that spares of
them be kept in the refrigerator, because the cold temp. slows down the
chemical reaction that leads to self-discharge.

Two questions: A, is that true, and B, does the same apply to new
alkalines?

(I needed two AA's for my wall clock, and a four-pack was on sale for four
bucks, so I'll have two lying around until I need them for whichever
appliance needs batteries next.)

Thanks,
Rich
The chemical reaction would be slowed but it's generally accepted that it's
not good for batteries or at least not necessary.

Who is this General guy?

Well, there are many sources if you don't like one.

http://www.snopes.com/oldwives/battery.asp

The quotes from Duracell and Energizer checked out. You may do your own
checking and rebut if you like.
Tom- Hide quoted text -

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Interesting, They never say that cooling doesn't prolong shelf life,
only that it's not recommended. I put epoxies in the frig.

George H.
 
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 20:11:38 -0500, news@jecarter.us wrote:

On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 18:10:58 -0600, "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

You got ripped off. They're 36 for $12 at the BORG and off-brand, but just as
good, are $20/hundred.

My real world experience (6 years with a wireless alarm system) has
shown Duiracells to deliver more consistent voltage in varied
temperatures than any other brand (including the other "name" brands).
The remote alarm sensors may be anywhere from 35F to 95F over a period
of months and the Duracells have fewer low voltage alarms.
Click to expand...
Did you measure their energy? For most applications that's all that matters.
 
George Herold:

Interesting, They never say that cooling doesn't prolong shelf life,
only that it's not recommended.
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Probably the difference is so small that is not noticeable.

I put epoxies in the frig.
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And cyanoacrilate too. And lithium batteries.
 
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 22:34:40 -0500, "ED"
<xxagon@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Rich Grise" <richg@example.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:ifj0oa$mma$1@news.eternal-september.org...
Anybody remember zinc-carbon cells? IIRC, it was recommended that spares
of
them be kept in the refrigerator, because the cold temp. slows down the
chemical reaction that leads to self-discharge.

Two questions: A, is that true, and B, does the same apply to new
alkalines?

The Eveready Site posts the following:
Should I store alkaline batteries in the refrigerator?
Storing batteries in refrigerators or freezers is not required or
recommended for batteries produced today.
In fact, cold temperature storage can harm batteries. To maximize
performance and shelf life, store
batteries at normal room temperatures with moderate humidity levels
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Whether or not there could be harm to the battery, there is
a good change for harm to the device you put it into.
Unless you let the battery warm up to room temperature
first, it is likely to cause condensation on the inside of
the device... not a good idea.

Best regards,


Bob Masta

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Rich Grise Inscribed thus:

Anybody remember zinc-carbon cells? IIRC, it was recommended that
spares of them be kept in the refrigerator, because the cold temp.
slows down the chemical reaction that leads to self-discharge.

Two questions: A, is that true, and B, does the same apply to new
alkalines?

(I needed two AA's for my wall clock, and a four-pack was on sale for
four bucks, so I'll have two lying around until I need them for
whichever appliance needs batteries next.)

Thanks,
Rich
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I keep all my batteries in the fridge ! Just stick them in a ziplock bag
with a pouch of silica gel. I've done it for a good few years.
Works for me. :)

--
Best Regards:
Baron.
 
Bob Masta Inscribed thus:

Whether or not there could be harm to the battery, there is
a good change for harm to the device you put it into.
Unless you let the battery warm up to room temperature
first, it is likely to cause condensation on the inside of
the device... not a good idea.

Best regards,


Bob Masta

DAQARTA v5.10
Data AcQuisition And Real-Time Analysis
www.daqarta.com
Scope, Spectrum, Spectrogram, Sound Level Meter
Frequency Counter, FREE Signal Generator
Pitch Track, Pitch-to-MIDI
DaqMusic - FREE MUSIC, Forever!
(Some assembly required)
Science (and fun!) with your sound card!
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I'll second that. The larger metal cased batteries can soon get wet from
condensation seconds after taking them out of the fridge. They need a
little time to acclimatise before they can produce full power anyway.

--
Best Regards:
Baron.
 
krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 19:02:49 -0500, "Tom Biasi" <tombiasi@optonline.net
"Rich Grise" wrote in message

Anybody remember zinc-carbon cells? IIRC, it was recommended that spares
The chemical reaction would be slowed but it's generally accepted that
it's not good for batteries or at least not necessary.

Who is this General guy?
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I think he's "They's" brother. (as in "they say..."). ;-)

Cheers!
Rich
 
George Herold wrote:
On Dec 30, 8:48 pm, "Tom Biasi" <tombi...@optonline.net> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 19:02:49 -0500, "Tom Biasi" <tombi...@optonline.net
"Rich Grise"  wrote in message

Anybody remember zinc-carbon cells? IIRC, it was recommended that spares
....
The chemical reaction would be slowed but it's generally accepted that
it's not good for batteries or at least not necessary.

Who is this General guy?

Well, there are many sources if you don't like one.

http://www.snopes.com/oldwives/battery.asp

The quotes from Duracell and Energizer checked out. You may do your own
checking and rebut if you like.

Interesting, They never say that cooling doesn't prolong shelf life,
only that it's not recommended. I put epoxies in the frig.

I buy my epoxy in that double-syringe thing, and after squirting the
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two beads onto my mixing surface, I pull back on the plunger, wipe off
the nozzle, stick the little red nozzle plug back in, and hang the double
syringe by the plug.

Superglue and RTV, however, it doesn't seem to matter how you store
the rest of the tube, it always hardens before the next time I need
superglue or RTV. )-;

Cheers!
Rich
 
On 2011-01-02, Rich Grise <richg@example.net.invalid> wrote:
Superglue and RTV, however, it doesn't seem to matter how you store
the rest of the tube, it always hardens before the next time I need
superglue or RTV. )-;
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RTV you need to use once a week (it cures about 1mm per day and plugs
bigger than 7mm are hard to clear) or you need to seal the tip
several layers of plastic packing tape seems to work, I use the cheap
stuff - clear tape with opaque brown adhesive.

Superglue lasts longer if kept dry and cool with the tip facing upwards.
I get 4+ months per tube.

--
⚂⚃ 100% natural
 
On 2 Jan 2011 08:17:47 GMT, Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

On 2011-01-02, Rich Grise <richg@example.net.invalid> wrote:
Superglue and RTV, however, it doesn't seem to matter how you store
the rest of the tube, it always hardens before the next time I need
superglue or RTV. )-;

RTV you need to use once a week (it cures about 1mm per day and plugs
bigger than 7mm are hard to clear) or you need to seal the tip
several layers of plastic packing tape seems to work, I use the cheap
stuff - clear tape with opaque brown adhesive.
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I just stick a 3" #8 screw in the end of the tube.

Superglue lasts longer if kept dry and cool with the tip facing upwards.
I get 4+ months per tube.
Click to expand...
 
On Jan 2, 12:45 am, Rich Grise <ri...@example.net.invalid> wrote:
George Herold wrote:
On Dec 30, 8:48 pm, "Tom Biasi" <tombi...@optonline.net> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 19:02:49 -0500, "Tom Biasi" <tombi...@optonline.net
"Rich Grise" wrote in message

Anybody remember zinc-carbon cells? IIRC, it was recommended that spares
...
The chemical reaction would be slowed but it's generally accepted that
it's not good for batteries or at least not necessary.

Who is this General guy?

Well, there are many sources if you don't like one.

http://www.snopes.com/oldwives/battery.asp

The quotes from Duracell and Energizer checked out. You may do your own
checking and rebut if you like.

Interesting,  They never say that cooling doesn't prolong shelf life,
only that it's not recommended.  I put epoxies in the frig.

I buy my epoxy in that double-syringe thing, and after squirting the
two beads onto my mixing surface, I pull back on the plunger, wipe off
the nozzle, stick the little red nozzle plug back in, and hang the double
syringe by the plug.

Superglue and RTV, however, it doesn't seem to matter how you store
the rest of the tube, it always hardens before the next time I need
superglue or RTV. )-;

Cheers!
Rich- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
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With the big tubes of RTV, I stick a long dry wall screw into the end
before I put it away. Then when I use it again, pulling out the dry
wall screw (usually) pulls the RTV plug with it.

George H.
 
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