Batt charged but unplug shuts

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I have a laptop (Aspire 1) that says the battery is fully
charged, but as soon as I unplug, it shuts off.

What if I put my scissors across the (unplugged) AC side of the
adaptor? I'm guessing that won't work because of induction?

THen if I got an adaptor plug just like the one on the adaptor and shorted
it?

Do I need to takeout the battery?

Any shortcuts?

I also have a smartphone (SX56) which would not charge, then I replaced
battery it charged, then when it discharged, would not charge again.

Much obliged


- = -
Vasos Panagiotopoulos, Columbia'81+, Reagan, Mozart, Pindus, BioStrategist
http://www.panix.com/~vjp2/vasos.htm
---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}---
[Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy obstructive guards]
[Urb sprawl confounds terror] [Phooey on GUI: Windows for subprime Bimbos]
 
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I have a laptop (Aspire 1) that says the battery is fully
charged, but as soon as I unplug, it shuts off.

What if I put my scissors across the (unplugged) AC side of the
adaptor? I'm guessing that won't work because of induction?

Then if I got an adaptor plug just like the one on the adaptor
and shorted it?

Do I need to takeout the battery?

Any shortcuts?
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What in the name of heaven are you talking about?


> [Phooey on GUI: Windows for subprime Bimbos]

You have a hell of a lot of nerve calling Windows users stupid, when you can't
even troubleshoot your computer.
 
On 01/07/2014 05:19 PM, vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
I have a laptop (Aspire 1) that says the battery is fully
charged, but as soon as I unplug, it shuts off.

What if I put my scissors across the (unplugged) AC side of the
adaptor? I'm guessing that won't work because of induction?

THen if I got an adaptor plug just like the one on the adaptor and shorted
it?

Do I need to takeout the battery?

Any shortcuts?

I also have a smartphone (SX56) which would not charge, then I replaced
battery it charged, then when it discharged, would not charge again.

Much obliged


- = -
Vasos Panagiotopoulos, Columbia'81+, Reagan, Mozart, Pindus, BioStrategist
http://www.panix.com/~vjp2/vasos.htm
---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}---
[Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy obstructive guards]
[Urb sprawl confounds terror] [Phooey on GUI: Windows for subprime Bimbos]




How old is the battery? How many charge cycles? They don't last forever.
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vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:

I have a laptop (Aspire 1) that says the battery is fully
charged, but as soon as I unplug, it shuts off.
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Well, there are a few possibilities. The most likely is the battery
has lost almost all of its capacity. Does the battery have a "fuel
gauge" on it? Can you check it while charging and after you try to run the
computer on battery power?

It is also possible that the battery management circuits on the
laptop have died, so it either fails to actually charge the battery
or can't draw power from a good battery. It is even possible the
battery-laptop contacts are dirty or bent and not making a connection.

Jon
 
On 1/8/2014 5:04 AM, dave wrote:
On 01/07/2014 05:19 PM, vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
I have a laptop (Aspire 1) that says the battery is fully
charged, but as soon as I unplug, it shuts off.

What if I put my scissors across the (unplugged) AC side of the
adaptor? I'm guessing that won't work because of induction?

THen if I got an adaptor plug just like the one on the adaptor and
shorted
it?

Do I need to takeout the battery?

Any shortcuts?

I also have a smartphone (SX56) which would not charge, then I replaced
battery it charged, then when it discharged, would not charge again.

Much obliged


- = -
Vasos Panagiotopoulos, Columbia'81+, Reagan, Mozart, Pindus,
BioStrategist
http://www.panix.com/~vjp2/vasos.htm
---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully
disclaimed.}---
[Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy obstructive
guards]
[Urb sprawl confounds terror] [Phooey on GUI: Windows for subprime
Bimbos]




How old is the battery? How many charge cycles? They don't last forever.
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Did this just happen? You've seen it work?
Did you buy it used this way?

As a general rule, anything that can be affected by shorting something
is something you shouldn't be poking scissors into. The affect
of the effect is destructive more often than not.


There are utilities to look at the battery directly.
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/pc-wizard.html
is one such tool.
It's a crap shoot, because there are so many different chipsets
in laptops and many different utilities.
But, it it works, it can tell you what the battery is telling
the battery management software about its condition.

If you find a better/more universal tool, I'd like to hear about it.
 
On Wed, 8 Jan 2014 , vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
I have a laptop (Aspire 1) that says the battery is fully
charged, but as soon as I unplug, it shuts off.
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"as soon as I unplug" -- unplug what?
"it shuts off" -- what shuts off??

Oh, well, guessing at what actually takes place, if unplugging the power
cable from the laptop - while the laptop is up and running - causes an
immediate shut off of the laptop, it could be due to a bad power
receptacle in the laptop. Happened to me with an old HP laptop a year
ago, or so. There may well be a set of N.O or N.C. contacts in the
receptacle housing that are failing when pulling the power plug out.
Or, you could have broken solder joints somewhere around the receptacle.
It gets a lot abuse in and around that connector.


What if I put my scissors across the (unplugged) AC side of the
adaptor? I'm guessing that won't work because of induction?
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You are in WAY OVER your head.

Jonesy
 
It is an Acer Aspire running Linpus not Windows.

I do have an identical machine which runs Windows so I might be able to swap
batteries. I see no obvious battery compartment, so I imagine I have to open
the unit.

What happened is I played with the OS, trying to install a diff version of
Linux (Quantian/Knoppix/Debian) and ended up having to reinstall Linpus from
CD. It may have needed a larger SD card as secondary disk - I got one but
can't set it up just yet. So I didn't use it for about two years. It was
fine before that. Linpus is a Fedora variant and I have run into repomd
dependency chaos, so I might install a different OS, unless I can just run
Java apps. But I can't play with the machine for a few months until the
current project I am using it for ends.

I like the size of these Acer Aspire Ones. They are great as Notebooks for
reading PDFs and writing notes, but not much else (too slow on XP, but linpus
is quite fast - which actually promotes the Java options). I don't like the
idea of carrying around something expensive in NYC. I had a similarly sized
Compaq Aero 4/25 runnign DOS for ten years and I liked it for the same
reasons, but it also had a bum battery (ev'tho I replaced batt) so I had to
use it always plugged in in the living room. The LED died in 12/08 the same
week my desktop LED screen also died (wierd, never figured, prolly some kind
of solar storm, tho bothscreens died during light drizzle outdoors - no
machines not wet).

- = -
Vasos Panagiotopoulos, Columbia'81+, Reagan, Mozart, Pindus, BioStrategist
http://www.panix.com/~vjp2/vasos.htm
---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}---
[Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy obstructive guards]
[Urb sprawl confounds terror] [Phooey on GUI: Windows for subprime Bimbos]
 
vjp2.at@at.biostrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
It is an Acer Aspire running Linpus not Windows.

I do have an identical machine which runs Windows so I might be able to swap
batteries. I see no obvious battery compartment, so I imagine I have to open
the unit.
Click to expand...

The battery is at the back. There are 2 latches that hold it in place
just in front of the rear feet. Slide the latches to release the
battery and it should pull straight out.

What happened is I played with the OS, trying to install a diff version of
Linux (Quantian/Knoppix/Debian) and ended up having to reinstall Linpus from
CD. It may have needed a larger SD card as secondary disk - I got one but
can't set it up just yet. So I didn't use it for about two years. It was
fine before that. Linpus is a Fedora variant and I have run into repomd
dependency chaos, so I might install a different OS, unless I can just run
Java apps. But I can't play with the machine for a few months until the
current project I am using it for ends.
Click to expand...

I've got a 16G SDHC card, /home & /var are on it, everything else is
on the internal SSD. I replaced Linpus after a week or two with my
standard Slackware install, which has since been changed to Salix
13.37 (a Slackware derivative). Bought it originally for travelling,
but it's also convenient for reading mail and newsgroups sitting in my
living room recliner.

I like the size of these Acer Aspire Ones. They are great as Notebooks for
reading PDFs and writing notes, but not much else (too slow on XP, but linpus
is quite fast - which actually promotes the Java options). I don't like the
idea of carrying around something expensive in NYC. I had a similarly sized
Compaq Aero 4/25 runnign DOS for ten years and I liked it for the same
reasons, but it also had a bum battery (ev'tho I replaced batt) so I had to
use it always plugged in in the living room. The LED died in 12/08 the same
week my desktop LED screen also died (wierd, never figured, prolly some kind
of solar storm, tho bothscreens died during light drizzle outdoors - no
machines not wet).

- = -
Vasos Panagiotopoulos, Columbia'81+, Reagan, Mozart, Pindus, BioStrategist
http://www.panix.com/~vjp2/vasos.htm
---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}---
[Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy obstructive guards]
[Urb sprawl confounds terror] [Phooey on GUI: Windows for subprime Bimbos]
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*+-The battery is at the back. There are 2 latches that hold it in place
*+-just in front of the rear feet. Slide the latches to release the
*+-battery and it should pull straight out.

Very many thanks!



- = -
Vasos Panagiotopoulos, Columbia'81+, Reagan, Mozart, Pindus, BioStrategist
http://www.panix.com/~vjp2/vasos.htm
---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}---
[Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy obstructive guards]
[Urb sprawl confounds terror] [Phooey on GUI: Windows for subprime Bimbos]
 
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