basic stamp microcontroller

[larry]

greetings

Is there a website that can teach a fairly new, but not beginner, person
about the stamp microcontroller. I have been around electronics since the
early 60's, so I am familiar with building, components ets.

I am looking for a webpage that can teach my the basics of the stamp and
teach me the support hardware. Also how to load programs, develope
programs, etc.

Larry

 

[Russell Miller]

larry wrote:

greetings

Is there a website that can teach a fairly new, but not beginner, person
about the stamp microcontroller. I have been around electronics since the
early 60's, so I am familiar with building, components ets.

I am looking for a webpage that can teach my the basics of the stamp and
teach me the support hardware. Also how to load programs, develope
programs, etc.

BASIC Stamps are very expensive. PICs are not. Perhaps you should consider

just using a PIC.

--Russell

Larry

--
Russell Miller
Somewhere near Sioux City, Iowa
Freelance computer programmer/administrator, pianist, and generally nice
guy.

 

[CFoley1064]

Is there a website that can teach a fairly new, but not beginner, person
about the stamp microcontroller. I have been around electronics since the
early 60's, so I am familiar with building, components ets.

I am looking for a webpage that can teach my the basics of the stamp and
teach me the support hardware. Also how to load programs, develope
programs, etc.

Larry

Good morning, Larry. The first place you might want to go is the
manufacturer's web site. Try

http://www.parallax.com/

On the sidebar menu, go to Resources -> Getting Started. There's also plenty
in Resources -> Downloads to keep you busy for a while.

Good luck.
Chris

 

[Byron A Jeff]

In article <%sYEb.27897$nY4.1861@news01.roc.ny>,
Russell Miller <rmiller@duskglow.com> wrote:
-larry wrote:
-
-> greetings
->
-> Is there a website that can teach a fairly new, but not beginner, person
-> about the stamp microcontroller. I have been around electronics since the
-> early 60's, so I am familiar with building, components ets.
->
-> I am looking for a webpage that can teach my the basics of the stamp and
-> teach me the support hardware. Also how to load programs, develope
-> programs, etc.
->
-BASIC Stamps are very expensive. PICs are not. Perhaps you should consider
-just using a PIC.

I'd like to expand on this. The Stamp presents quite a few features:

1) High Level Language support.
2) No separate programmer.
3) Lots of examples.
4) Lots of people using it.

So it's pretty easy to get started. However the downside occurs with
continuing use:

1) Each project requires a new stamp. It does get expensive.
2) It's slow. Very slow. Extremely slow. Slow enough to eventually get into
your way on a project.
3) The Basic HLL has limitations.
4) You're limited to the hardware that Parallax happens to package.

So a bare PIC can offer you speed and flexibility while limiting your overall
cost. However there is more initial setup in terms of a programmer and
figuring out how to program it.

Be sure to take a read of Wouter von Ooijen's getting started page. Also
his Wisp628 programmer is an excellent tool, in addition to the Jal
programming language. http://www.voti.nl

Also you can take a look at my PIC resources: http://www.finitesite.com/d3jsys

BAJ
-
---Russell
-
-> Larry
-
---
-Russell Miller
-Somewhere near Sioux City, Iowa
-Freelance computer programmer/administrator, pianist, and generally nice
-guy.

 

[Chaos Master]

larry(larya@rogers.com) said those words of arcane wisdom from the elves:

greetings

Is there a website that can teach a fairly new, but not beginner, person
about the stamp microcontroller. I have been around electronics since the
early 60's, so I am familiar with building, components ets.

I am looking for a webpage that can teach my the basics of the stamp and
teach me the support hardware. Also how to load programs, develope
programs, etc.

Larry

Try the manufacturer : www.parallax.com . I'd suggest you to move to a "real"
microcontroller such as a PIC.

--
ChaosŽ - posting from Brazil
wizard_of_NOSPAM@hotmail.com
Replace "NOSPAM" by "rodney" written backwards "yendor".

 

[hamilton]

Chaos Master wrote:

larry(larya@rogers.com) said those words of arcane wisdom from the elves:

greetings

Is there a website that can teach a fairly new, but not beginner, person
about the stamp microcontroller. I have been around electronics since the
early 60's, so I am familiar with building, components ets.

I am looking for a webpage that can teach my the basics of the stamp and
teach me the support hardware. Also how to load programs, develope
programs, etc.

Larry


Try the manufacturer : www.parallax.com . I'd suggest you to move to a "real"
microcontroller such as a PIC.

Huugh, The stamp is a PIC. !!!!

 

[Jan-Erik Söderholm]

hamilton wrote:

Try the manufacturer : www.parallax.com . I'd suggest you to move to a "real"
microcontroller such as a PIC.


Huugh, The stamp is a PIC. !!!!

It's a PIC with a leg and an arm cut of, but given a second language...

Jan-Erik.

 

[dave]

Jan-Erik Söderholm <aaa@aaa.com> wrote in message news:<3FE6D8C2.9FF8BA57@aaa.com>...

hamilton wrote:
Try the manufacturer : www.parallax.com . I'd suggest you to move to a "real"
microcontroller such as a PIC.


Huugh, The stamp is a PIC. !!!!

It's a PIC with a leg and an arm cut of, but given a second language...

Jan-Erik.

It's a PIC with a leg and an arm cut of, but given a second
language...which means you can be up and running in about 5 mins as
opposed to 5 hours.....

 

[Russell Miller]

dave wrote:

It's a PIC with a leg and an arm cut of, but given a second
language...which means you can be up and running in about 5 mins as
opposed to 5 hours.....

In another life I'm a semi-professional pianist. This argument reminds me
of the constant bickering in rec.music.makers.piano regarding whether
digital pianos are better than acoustic. It also reminds me of the
bickering between those who prefer classical music and those who like more
modern.

It also reminds me of those who argue about linux and windows. Or C and
perl.

Or.. Or...

Basic stamps have their purpose. They're easy to set up and program, which
makes them great for prototyping. They're very expensive, which makes them
stink for production runs. They're very slow, which makes them stink for
real-time applications.

If you're setting up a prototype with an eye for mass production, using a
basic stamp is going to make you have to go back and rework it anyway, may
as well do it right the first time (unless you can afford to redo it from
scratch and/or speed of prototyping is paramount). If you're just using it
to experiment and have the extra cash to throw parallax's way, go for it.
If your app is speed sensitive, don't waste the money.

Use the right tool for the job. A stamp very well might be it. And it
might not. Just think about it carefully.

HTH.

--Russell

--
Russell Miller
Somewhere near Sioux City, Iowa
Freelance computer programmer/administrator, pianist, and generally nice
guy.

 

[Louis Bybee]

"Russell Miller" <rmiller@duskglow.com> wrote in message
news:LVLFb.26426$JS7.11715@news02.roc.ny...

dave wrote:

It's a PIC with a leg and an arm cut of, but given a second
language...which means you can be up and running in about 5 mins as
opposed to 5 hours.....

In another life I'm a semi-professional pianist. This argument reminds me
of the constant bickering in rec.music.makers.piano regarding whether
digital pianos are better than acoustic. It also reminds me of the
bickering between those who prefer classical music and those who like more
modern.

It also reminds me of those who argue about linux and windows. Or C and
perl.

Or.. Or...

Basic stamps have their purpose. They're easy to set up and program,
which
makes them great for prototyping. They're very expensive, which makes
them
stink for production runs. They're very slow, which makes them stink for
real-time applications.

If you're setting up a prototype with an eye for mass production, using a
basic stamp is going to make you have to go back and rework it anyway, may
as well do it right the first time (unless you can afford to redo it from
scratch and/or speed of prototyping is paramount). If you're just using
it
to experiment and have the extra cash to throw parallax's way, go for it.
If your app is speed sensitive, don't waste the money.

Use the right tool for the job. A stamp very well might be it. And it
might not. Just think about it carefully.

HTH.

--Russell

--
Russell Miller

So be constructive, and suggest a viable option. :-]

Thank you.

Louis--
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[Russell Miller]

Louis Bybee wrote:

I don't understand, I thought I did in another post. Or perhaps you were

making a joke?

Thank you.

You're welcome.

--Russell

Louis--
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--
Russell Miller
Somewhere near Sioux City, Iowa
Freelance computer programmer/administrator, pianist, and generally nice
guy.

 

[hamilton]

Louis Bybee wrote:

So be constructive, and suggest a viable option. :-]

Thank you.

Louis--

Like all too many posts here, the amount of information given in NOT
enough to give any type of option ( or opinion ).

Please give more information about your goals. Please.

 

[Louis Bybee]

"Russell Miller" <rmiller@duskglow.com> wrote in message
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Louis Bybee wrote:

So be constructive, and suggest a viable option. :-]

I don't understand, I thought I did in another post. Or perhaps you were
making a joke?

Thank you.

You're welcome.

--Russell

My provider rolls the messages off quickly so I wasn't able to view much of

the thread. The message with your suggestion (which I missed) wasn't
available to me.

I'll see if it's available on google.

Thank you.

Louis--
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[Louis Bybee]

"hamilton" <hamilton@deminsional.com> wrote in message
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Louis Bybee wrote:

So be constructive, and suggest a viable option. :-]

Thank you.

Louis--

Like all too many posts here, the amount of information given in NOT
enough to give any type of option ( or opinion ).

Please give more information about your goals. Please.

My provider rolls messages off so quickly, thus I wasn't able to view much

of the thread. Another fellow replied that he had posted an option which I
missed. I'll try and see if I can follow the thread further back on google.

This is an area that I have little experience with, and thus my knowledge
base is such that I don't really have clearly defined goals yet. I would
like to pursue this technology further on a informational gathering basis,
and value the opinion of those that have tread before me. It would seem wise
to glean from the suggestions of those with "battle scars" a suffer as few
as possible myself.

Thank you.

Louis

 

[hamilton]

Louis Bybee wrote:

This is an area that I have little experience with, and thus my knowledge
base is such that I don't really have clearly defined goals yet. I would
like to pursue this technology further on a informational gathering basis,
and value the opinion of those that have tread before me. It would seem wise
to glean from the suggestions of those with "battle scars" a suffer as few
as possible myself.

Thank you.

Louis

Hmmm,

OK, I think you can do this with a cast iron gear assembly.

But, you would need a smelter to get the cast iron.

I am sure you can find one on Ebay.

hamilton

 

[Louis Bybee]

"hamilton" <hamilton@deminsional.com> wrote in message
news:3fe7bd20$1_3@omega.dimensional.com...

Louis Bybee wrote:
This is an area that I have little experience with, and thus my
knowledge
base is such that I don't really have clearly defined goals yet. I would
like to pursue this technology further on a informational gathering
basis,
and value the opinion of those that have tread before me. It would seem
wise
to glean from the suggestions of those with "battle scars" a suffer as
few
as possible myself.

Thank you.

Louis



Hmmm,

OK, I think you can do this with a cast iron gear assembly.

But, you would need a smelter to get the cast iron.

I am sure you can find one on Ebay.

hamilton

Ok, I've acquired the smelter, but it came without operating instructions!
Could you please forward same ASAP!

Thank you.

Louis--
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Remove the two fish in address to respond

 

[Jan-Erik Söderholm]

Louis Bybee wrote:

Please give more information about your goals. Please.

This is an area...

*what* area ?

...that I have little experience with, and thus my knowledge
base is such that I don't really have clearly defined goals yet.

*You* don't have your goals defined, and you ask *us* to tell
you how to use to reach them.



Jan-Erik.

 

[hamilton]

Louis Bybee wrote:

"hamilton" <hamilton@deminsional.com> wrote in message
news:3fe7bd20$1_3@omega.dimensional.com...


Louis Bybee wrote:

This is an area that I have little experience with, and thus my

knowledge

base is such that I don't really have clearly defined goals yet. I would
like to pursue this technology further on a informational gathering

basis,

and value the opinion of those that have tread before me. It would seem

wise

to glean from the suggestions of those with "battle scars" a suffer as

few

as possible myself.

Thank you.

Louis



Hmmm,

OK, I think you can do this with a cast iron gear assembly.

But, you would need a smelter to get the cast iron.

I am sure you can find one on Ebay.

hamilton



Ok, I've acquired the smelter, but it came without operating instructions!
Could you please forward same ASAP!

Boy, That was quick,

Good for you, this means you are truelly interested in getting this
project done. Now, is the unit gas of elecric?

 

[Louis Bybee]

"Jan-Erik Söderholm" <aaa@aaa.com> wrote in message
news:3FE81EB5.B07D75F4@aaa.com...

Louis Bybee wrote:

Please give more information about your goals. Please.

This is an area...

*what* area ?

...that I have little experience with, and thus my knowledge
base is such that I don't really have clearly defined goals yet.

*You* don't have your goals defined, and you ask *us* to tell
you how to use to reach them.



Jan-Erik.

I apologize for a post that was vague at best. I have no project, or task
specific goal in mind. The general subject of stamp microcontrollers has
interested me for some time, and running across this thread motivated me to
follow through on that interest.

Someone made reference to a company that provided parts, and projects, and
another person intimated that there was a better source, or type of
microcontroller available. That was the information I was seeking. I wasn't
requesting anyone to implement a project for me, rather sources of
information that I could use to avoid mistakes others had made in the
familiarization process, and other tips to make the learning process more
fruitful.

Goggleing the subject has reduced my need for that information, but I do
appreciate your time, and efforts.

Thank you.

Louis--
*********************************************
Remove the two fish in address to respond

 

[Louis Bybee]

"hamilton" <hamilton@deminsional.com> wrote in message
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Louis Bybee wrote:

"hamilton" <hamilton@deminsional.com> wrote in message
news:3fe7bd20$1_3@omega.dimensional.com...


Louis Bybee wrote:

This is an area that I have little experience with, and thus my

knowledge

base is such that I don't really have clearly defined goals yet. I
would
like to pursue this technology further on a informational gathering

basis,

and value the opinion of those that have tread before me. It would seem

wise

to glean from the suggestions of those with "battle scars" a suffer as

few

as possible myself.

Thank you.

Louis



Hmmm,

OK, I think you can do this with a cast iron gear assembly.

But, you would need a smelter to get the cast iron.

I am sure you can find one on Ebay.

hamilton



Ok, I've acquired the smelter, but it came without operating
instructions!
Could you please forward same ASAP!


Boy, That was quick,

Good for you, this means you are truelly interested in getting this
project done. Now, is the unit gas of elecric?


I'm not quite sure. The people that delivered the smelter were in a big

hurry to leave, and it was dark at the time so I could'nt ask too many
relevant questions.

On one end there is an opening marked "Inpoot" in rather unprofessional
lettering with a black "magic marker". The other end has a hole with the
legend "Yep, it comes out here!" also with the same type of lettering. In
the middle there is a smaller box with instructions to connect to the "Flux
Generator". Now I'm not normally the suspicious type, but if it had been
daylight I might have questioned whether I received appropriate value for
the money I paid after observing the less than confidence inspiring
lettering, poor spelling, lack of instructions, and the fact that this
smelter was constructed from black painted cardboard joined with duct tape.

Please forward suitable instructions ASAP. I'm sure my suspicions will turn
out to be unfounded as they seemed like nice, and sincere people. Also they
repeatedly assured me that I would have it up, and running in no time at
all! That's funny? I just tried calling the phone number they gave me, and
it appears to be assigned to a dry cleaners? :-]

Thank you.

Louis