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Adam
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low prices!
try us!
szostek@panda.bg.univ.gda.pl
try us!
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Unbeliever
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"Adam" <szostek@panda.bg.univ.gda.pl> wrote in message
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accreditation.
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I wonder if the students at Gdansk university have ISO 9000/2000
accreditation.
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Mike Harding
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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:00:11 +1100, "Unbeliever"
<alfkatz@remove.the.bleedin.obvious.ieee.org> wrote:
Mike Harding
<alfkatz@remove.the.bleedin.obvious.ieee.org> wrote:
You think ISO 9000 is worth anything?
Mike Harding
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The Real Andy
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"Mike Harding" <mike_harding1@nixspamhotmail.com> wrote in message
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Did I hear _you_ say that Mike?
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It's worth everything if your customers require it. There's something to be
said for being able to make concrete parachutes in a predictable, repeatable
manner, too.
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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:08:03 +1100, "Unbeliever"
<alfkatz@remove.the.bleedin.obvious.ieee.org> wrote:
so that results are monitored to ensure repeatability. Oh, did I
mention repeatability?
Nothing about quality anywhere ....
Peter
(ex an ISO9000 organisation)
<alfkatz@remove.the.bleedin.obvious.ieee.org> wrote:
the very essence of ISO9000 - repeatability, and closed loop control
so that results are monitored to ensure repeatability. Oh, did I
mention repeatability?
Nothing about quality anywhere ....
Peter
(ex an ISO9000 organisation)
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Mike Harding
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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:38:53 +1000, "The Real Andy"
<ihatehifitrolls@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
I've always thought ISO 9000 was a bunch of dingoes kidneys
Mike Harding
<ihatehifitrolls@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
Que?"Mike Harding" <mike_harding1@nixspamhotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:00:11 +1100, "Unbeliever"
alfkatz@remove.the.bleedin.obvious.ieee.org> wrote:
"Adam" <szostek@panda.bg.univ.gda.pl> wrote in message
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low prices!
try us!
szostek@panda.bg.univ.gda.pl
I wonder if the students at Gdansk university have ISO 9000/2000
accreditation.
You think ISO 9000 is worth anything?
Did I hear _you_ say that Mike?
I've always thought ISO 9000 was a bunch of dingoes kidneys
Mike Harding
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Mike Harding
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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:08:03 +1100, "Unbeliever"
<alfkatz@remove.the.bleedin.obvious.ieee.org> wrote:
mantra. And if, for example, your customer requires
that you supply to no one else but him, is that still OK?
Mike Harding
<alfkatz@remove.the.bleedin.obvious.ieee.org> wrote:
This is a variation on "the customer is always right"
mantra. And if, for example, your customer requires
that you supply to no one else but him, is that still OK?
Really? What is it?
Mike Harding
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Alan
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On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:09:09 +1100, Mike Harding
<mike_harding1@nixspamhotmail.com> wrote:
They go down well??
Alan
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Jenal Communications
Manufacturers and Suppliers of HF Selcall
P O Box 1108, Morley, WA, 6943
Tel: +61 8 9370 5533 Fax +61 8 9370 5106
Web Site: http://www.jenal.com
e-mail: http://www.jenal.com/contact.php
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<mike_harding1@nixspamhotmail.com> wrote:
They go down well??
Alan
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Jenal Communications
Manufacturers and Suppliers of HF Selcall
P O Box 1108, Morley, WA, 6943
Tel: +61 8 9370 5533 Fax +61 8 9370 5106
Web Site: http://www.jenal.com
e-mail: http://www.jenal.com/contact.php
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Alan
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On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:01:02 +1100, Mike Harding
<mike_harding1@nixspamhotmail.com> wrote:
I've never considered it that good even, unless you like
paper trails.
Alan
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Jenal Communications
Manufacturers and Suppliers of HF Selcall
P O Box 1108, Morley, WA, 6943
Tel: +61 8 9370 5533 Fax +61 8 9370 5106
Web Site: http://www.jenal.com
e-mail: http://www.jenal.com/contact.php
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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:38:53 +1000, "The Real Andy"
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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:00:11 +1100, "Unbeliever"
alfkatz@remove.the.bleedin.obvious.ieee.org> wrote:
"Adam" <szostek@panda.bg.univ.gda.pl> wrote in message
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low prices!
try us!
szostek@panda.bg.univ.gda.pl
I wonder if the students at Gdansk university have ISO 9000/2000
accreditation.
You think ISO 9000 is worth anything?
Did I hear _you_ say that Mike?
Que?
I've always thought ISO 9000 was a bunch of dingoes kidneys
Mike Harding
I've never considered it that good even, unless you like
paper trails.
Alan
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Jenal Communications
Manufacturers and Suppliers of HF Selcall
P O Box 1108, Morley, WA, 6943
Tel: +61 8 9370 5533 Fax +61 8 9370 5106
Web Site: http://www.jenal.com
e-mail: http://www.jenal.com/contact.php
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Ken Taylor
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"Alan" <me@somewhere.com.au> wrote in message
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Ken
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it's all about being able to blame someone. Very American.On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:01:02 +1100, Mike Harding
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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:38:53 +1000, "The Real Andy"
ihatehifitrolls@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:00:11 +1100, "Unbeliever"
alfkatz@remove.the.bleedin.obvious.ieee.org> wrote:
"Adam" <szostek@panda.bg.univ.gda.pl> wrote in message
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low prices!
try us!
szostek@panda.bg.univ.gda.pl
I wonder if the students at Gdansk university have ISO 9000/2000
accreditation.
You think ISO 9000 is worth anything?
Did I hear _you_ say that Mike?
Que?
I've always thought ISO 9000 was a bunch of dingoes kidneys
Mike Harding
I've never considered it that good even, unless you like
paper trails.
Alan
Which of course is exactly what ISO9000 is all about. Or, put another way,
Ken
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KLR
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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 09:47:01 +0100, "Adam"
<szostek@panda.bg.univ.gda.pl> wrote:
if the standard is anything like some of the electrical work I saw in
Russia recently - I would be very cautious
<szostek@panda.bg.univ.gda.pl> wrote:
if the standard is anything like some of the electrical work I saw in
Russia recently - I would be very cautious
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Adam
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well, one normal response from you,
it's striking that more and more companies from Austria and Germany are
looking for some subperformers from Middle East. In these countries (like
we) there are some companies which are able to perform very complicated
works, (I mean SMT technology). But as I know ( I was at fair VIET in
Vienna) many decision makerks from your country still don't belive that in
Middle East can be done high quality work. They think (you too?) that we
think differently and it is hard to belive in our production powers. But, it
is big competition from China , Taiwan and so on... How your production
plants can fight against them? I think that only with quality. But in long
term ... I think it will be very hard to compete because of their low
production costs.
You will be made to outsource your production. Not in all cases of course,
but for example for small ar midium series it is better to place production
in Middle East and not in the Far East - because of transportation costs.
What seems to be against you , it is in fact your opportunity... to
manufacture in for example in Poland, but you can have your own point of
view. I com from Poland and I realy know what Polish companies can
manufacture and what quality we have.
A.
Uzytkownik "KLR" <kreed@bigpond.net.au> napisal w wiadomosci
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it's striking that more and more companies from Austria and Germany are
looking for some subperformers from Middle East. In these countries (like
we) there are some companies which are able to perform very complicated
works, (I mean SMT technology). But as I know ( I was at fair VIET in
Vienna) many decision makerks from your country still don't belive that in
Middle East can be done high quality work. They think (you too?) that we
think differently and it is hard to belive in our production powers. But, it
is big competition from China , Taiwan and so on... How your production
plants can fight against them? I think that only with quality. But in long
term ... I think it will be very hard to compete because of their low
production costs.
You will be made to outsource your production. Not in all cases of course,
but for example for small ar midium series it is better to place production
in Middle East and not in the Far East - because of transportation costs.
What seems to be against you , it is in fact your opportunity... to
manufacture in for example in Poland, but you can have your own point of
view. I com from Poland and I realy know what Polish companies can
manufacture and what quality we have.
A.
Uzytkownik "KLR" <kreed@bigpond.net.au> napisal w wiadomosci
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szostek@panda.bg.univ.gda.pl> wrote:
low prices!
try us!
szostek@panda.bg.univ.gda.pl
if the standard is anything like some of the electrical work I saw in
Russia recently - I would be very cautious