J
Jan Panteltje
Guest
How Raspberry Pis Are Made:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-manufacturing-process
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-manufacturing-process
J
John Larkin
Guest
On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 07:03:11 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:
Cool. Pi supplies got whacked by scalpers and the Foundation is going
to make them regret it.
We have a Yamaha pick-and-place assembly line, somebody\'s selective
solder machine for thru-hole parts, automated optical inspection, and
a Boss laser for blasting graphics onto boxes. I guess those are
robots.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ly5t1ve5c08qxzqgxzmld/20200520_175949.jpg?dl=0&rlkey=hnj1af2tr7i1icp2oml1549kt
wrote:
Cool. Pi supplies got whacked by scalpers and the Foundation is going
to make them regret it.
We have a Yamaha pick-and-place assembly line, somebody\'s selective
solder machine for thru-hole parts, automated optical inspection, and
a Boss laser for blasting graphics onto boxes. I guess those are
robots.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ly5t1ve5c08qxzqgxzmld/20200520_175949.jpg?dl=0&rlkey=hnj1af2tr7i1icp2oml1549kt
J
Jan Panteltje
Guest
On a sunny day (Tue, 13 Jun 2023 07:10:37 -0700) it happened John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in
<1ktg8itqa8stpp9g52p8nhneuknfhsv61u@4ax.com>:
Yes, but the little arms look more human
As to more human, was trying some more AI chat links today,
bit disappointing. thing did not even know that it was more than just a program...
(hardware it runs on).
And an other one: \'we\' went into Einstein and gravity and math, and it knew about everything we can find on the internet too,
but failed at deducing things...
Mostly a world wide web data parrot.
AI has a long way to go
<jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in
<1ktg8itqa8stpp9g52p8nhneuknfhsv61u@4ax.com>:
Yes, but the little arms look more human
As to more human, was trying some more AI chat links today,
bit disappointing. thing did not even know that it was more than just a program...
(hardware it runs on).
And an other one: \'we\' went into Einstein and gravity and math, and it knew about everything we can find on the internet too,
but failed at deducing things...
Mostly a world wide web data parrot.
AI has a long way to go
D
Don
Guest
Jan Panteltje wrote:
Some of my colleagues operate a Da Vinci robot with more arms than
Shiva:
<https://www.intuitive.com/en-us/patients/da-vinci-robotic-surgery>
ChatGPT\'s fairly competent as a programming language reference. It shows
specific source code syntax after you feed it a few superficial hints.
Danke,
--
Don, KB7RPU, https://www.qsl.net/kb7rpu
There was a young lady named Bright Whose speed was far faster than light;
She set out one day In a relative way And returned on the previous night.
John Larkin wrote:
Jan Panteltje wrote:
How Raspberry Pis Are Made:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-manufacturing-process
Cool. Pi supplies got whacked by scalpers and the Foundation is going
to make them regret it.
We have a Yamaha pick-and-place assembly line, somebody\'s selective
solder machine for thru-hole parts, automated optical inspection, and
a Boss laser for blasting graphics onto boxes. I guess those are
robots.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ly5t1ve5c08qxzqgxzmld/20200520_175949.jpg?dl=0&rlkey=hnj1af2tr7i1icp2oml1549kt
Yes, but the little arms look more human
As to more human, was trying some more AI chat links today,
bit disappointing. thing did not even know that it was more than just a program...
(hardware it runs on).
And an other one: \'we\' went into Einstein and gravity and math, and it knew about everything we can find on the internet too,
but failed at deducing things...
Mostly a world wide web data parrot.
AI has a long way to go
Some of my colleagues operate a Da Vinci robot with more arms than
Shiva:
<https://www.intuitive.com/en-us/patients/da-vinci-robotic-surgery>
ChatGPT\'s fairly competent as a programming language reference. It shows
specific source code syntax after you feed it a few superficial hints.
Danke,
--
Don, KB7RPU, https://www.qsl.net/kb7rpu
There was a young lady named Bright Whose speed was far faster than light;
She set out one day In a relative way And returned on the previous night.
C
Cursitor Doom
Guest
On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 14:59:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:
I suspect the versions we plebs are allowed access to are crippled in
some respects compared to the ones currently in development.
wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 13 Jun 2023 07:10:37 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in
1ktg8itqa8stpp9g52p8nhneuknfhsv61u@4ax.com>:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 07:03:11 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid
wrote:
How Raspberry Pis Are Made:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-manufacturing-process
Cool. Pi supplies got whacked by scalpers and the Foundation is going
to make them regret it.
We have a Yamaha pick-and-place assembly line, somebody\'s selective
solder machine for thru-hole parts, automated optical inspection, and
a Boss laser for blasting graphics onto boxes. I guess those are
robots.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ly5t1ve5c08qxzqgxzmld/20200520_175949.jpg?dl=0&rlkey=hnj1af2tr7i1icp2oml1549kt
Yes, but the little arms look more human
As to more human, was trying some more AI chat links today,
bit disappointing. thing did not even know that it was more than just a program...
(hardware it runs on).
And an other one: \'we\' went into Einstein and gravity and math, and it knew about everything we can find on the internet too,
but failed at deducing things...
Mostly a world wide web data parrot.
AI has a long way to go
I suspect the versions we plebs are allowed access to are crippled in
some respects compared to the ones currently in development.
J
John Larkin
Guest
On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 19:08:44 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
wrote:
Or, as likely, AI is mostly a scam.
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 14:59:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid
wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 13 Jun 2023 07:10:37 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in
1ktg8itqa8stpp9g52p8nhneuknfhsv61u@4ax.com>:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 07:03:11 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid
wrote:
How Raspberry Pis Are Made:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-manufacturing-process
Cool. Pi supplies got whacked by scalpers and the Foundation is going
to make them regret it.
We have a Yamaha pick-and-place assembly line, somebody\'s selective
solder machine for thru-hole parts, automated optical inspection, and
a Boss laser for blasting graphics onto boxes. I guess those are
robots.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ly5t1ve5c08qxzqgxzmld/20200520_175949.jpg?dl=0&rlkey=hnj1af2tr7i1icp2oml1549kt
Yes, but the little arms look more human
As to more human, was trying some more AI chat links today,
bit disappointing. thing did not even know that it was more than just a program...
(hardware it runs on).
And an other one: \'we\' went into Einstein and gravity and math, and it knew about everything we can find on the internet too,
but failed at deducing things...
Mostly a world wide web data parrot.
AI has a long way to go
I suspect the versions we plebs are allowed access to are crippled in
some respects compared to the ones currently in development.
Or, as likely, AI is mostly a scam.
J
Joe Gwinn
Guest
On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 14:12:12 -0700, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
As always with anything new and shiny.
But they are coming for things like web development, a very large
economic niche.
AlphaCode and data-driven programming - Is ignoring everything that
is known about code the best way to write programs??
..<https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.add8258>
Competition-level code generation with AlphaCode
..<https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abq1158>
The actual article will be very heavy going if one is not familiar
with AI programming.
This is the Deep Mind crowd, owned by Google.
Joe Gwinn
<jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 19:08:44 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 14:59:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid
wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 13 Jun 2023 07:10:37 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in
1ktg8itqa8stpp9g52p8nhneuknfhsv61u@4ax.com>:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 07:03:11 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid
wrote:
How Raspberry Pis Are Made:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-manufacturing-process
Cool. Pi supplies got whacked by scalpers and the Foundation is going
to make them regret it.
We have a Yamaha pick-and-place assembly line, somebody\'s selective
solder machine for thru-hole parts, automated optical inspection, and
a Boss laser for blasting graphics onto boxes. I guess those are
robots.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ly5t1ve5c08qxzqgxzmld/20200520_175949.jpg?dl=0&rlkey=hnj1af2tr7i1icp2oml1549kt
Yes, but the little arms look more human
As to more human, was trying some more AI chat links today,
bit disappointing. thing did not even know that it was more than just a program...
(hardware it runs on).
And an other one: \'we\' went into Einstein and gravity and math, and it knew about everything we can find on the internet too,
but failed at deducing things...
Mostly a world wide web data parrot.
AI has a long way to go
I suspect the versions we plebs are allowed access to are crippled in
some respects compared to the ones currently in development.
Or, as likely, AI is mostly a scam.
As always with anything new and shiny.
But they are coming for things like web development, a very large
economic niche.
AlphaCode and data-driven programming - Is ignoring everything that
is known about code the best way to write programs??
..<https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.add8258>
Competition-level code generation with AlphaCode
..<https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abq1158>
The actual article will be very heavy going if one is not familiar
with AI programming.
This is the Deep Mind crowd, owned by Google.
Joe Gwinn
J
Jan Panteltje
Guest
On a sunny day (Tue, 13 Jun 2023 14:12:12 -0700) it happened John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in
<8smh8ih20hscss8nsrkcpmjoed2b0klt3a@4ax.com>:
Now in the EU they are working on all sort of laws to prevent for example fake news and other AI generated things
that could somehow cause trouble (for the current politicians / system ;-) ).
Seems difficult to me... but ever more censoring and control.
What is real? then becomes the issue, for sure politicians / states will use it to control the people..
So, WW3, high altitude nukes, no more electrickety ?
Maybe the same happened when book printing was invented, all sort of stories ....
And movies, same...
I was reading one of the Beatles, Paul Mccartney, is making a new song using AI with the voice of John Lennon in it....
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/beatles-ai-song-paul-mccartney-final-record-released-this-year/
I will listen to it when it comes out, but ?
I had most of their records back then, still some on the PC here.
<jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in
<8smh8ih20hscss8nsrkcpmjoed2b0klt3a@4ax.com>:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 19:08:44 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 14:59:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid
wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 13 Jun 2023 07:10:37 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in
1ktg8itqa8stpp9g52p8nhneuknfhsv61u@4ax.com>:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 07:03:11 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid
wrote:
How Raspberry Pis Are Made:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-manufacturing-process
Cool. Pi supplies got whacked by scalpers and the Foundation is going
to make them regret it.
We have a Yamaha pick-and-place assembly line, somebody\'s selective
solder machine for thru-hole parts, automated optical inspection, and
a Boss laser for blasting graphics onto boxes. I guess those are
robots.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ly5t1ve5c08qxzqgxzmld/20200520_175949.jpg?dl=0&rlkey=hnj1af2tr7i1icp2oml1549kt
Yes, but the little arms look more human
As to more human, was trying some more AI chat links today,
bit disappointing. thing did not even know that it was more than just a program...
(hardware it runs on).
And an other one: \'we\' went into Einstein and gravity and math, and it knew about everything we can find on the internet too,
but failed at deducing things...
Mostly a world wide web data parrot.
AI has a long way to go
I suspect the versions we plebs are allowed access to are crippled in
some respects compared to the ones currently in development.
Or, as likely, AI is mostly a scam.
Now in the EU they are working on all sort of laws to prevent for example fake news and other AI generated things
that could somehow cause trouble (for the current politicians / system ;-) ).
Seems difficult to me... but ever more censoring and control.
What is real? then becomes the issue, for sure politicians / states will use it to control the people..
So, WW3, high altitude nukes, no more electrickety ?
Maybe the same happened when book printing was invented, all sort of stories ....
And movies, same...
I was reading one of the Beatles, Paul Mccartney, is making a new song using AI with the voice of John Lennon in it....
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/beatles-ai-song-paul-mccartney-final-record-released-this-year/
I will listen to it when it comes out, but ?
I had most of their records back then, still some on the PC here.
J
Jan Panteltje
Guest
On a sunny day (Tue, 13 Jun 2023 18:58:03 -0400) it happened Joe Gwinn
<joegwinn@comcast.net> wrote in <mtsh8ilq1da2jef9b818keupja9ntv75hc@4ax.com>:
Yes, I was wondering how it would write a GPS module output parser in PIC 18F asm
to get position and speed.
Maybe it would find my GPL code and use it ??
After all a program is just like travel instructions using a map, go left, second right, turn left again...
but you have to know where you are going...
There is a lot more involved than just \'code\'.
I have seen AI generated python code a few days back... for a simple text reversal challenge.
Would be even clearer in C, but the question is always what / how does it fit into what you actually want to do.
That is the higher level issue.
So we will see where it will go.
Striking to capitalism would be if it wrote code that needed less bloat, hardware,
that would hamper sales hehehehe! LOL, and then AI would be forbidden!
I mean we now need 8 GB of RAM and several GHz clock speed to say \"Hello world\", plus about a terabyte of OS and
daily upgrades, its big business.
<joegwinn@comcast.net> wrote in <mtsh8ilq1da2jef9b818keupja9ntv75hc@4ax.com>:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 14:12:12 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 19:08:44 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 14:59:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid
wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 13 Jun 2023 07:10:37 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in
1ktg8itqa8stpp9g52p8nhneuknfhsv61u@4ax.com>:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 07:03:11 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid
wrote:
How Raspberry Pis Are Made:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-manufacturing-process
Cool. Pi supplies got whacked by scalpers and the Foundation is going
to make them regret it.
We have a Yamaha pick-and-place assembly line, somebody\'s selective
solder machine for thru-hole parts, automated optical inspection, and
a Boss laser for blasting graphics onto boxes. I guess those are
robots.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ly5t1ve5c08qxzqgxzmld/20200520_175949.jpg?dl=0&rlkey=hnj1af2tr7i1icp2oml1549kt
Yes, but the little arms look more human
As to more human, was trying some more AI chat links today,
bit disappointing. thing did not even know that it was more than just a program...
(hardware it runs on).
And an other one: \'we\' went into Einstein and gravity and math, and it knew about everything we can find on the internet
too,
but failed at deducing things...
Mostly a world wide web data parrot.
AI has a long way to go
I suspect the versions we plebs are allowed access to are crippled in
some respects compared to the ones currently in development.
Or, as likely, AI is mostly a scam.
As always with anything new and shiny.
But they are coming for things like web development, a very large
economic niche.
AlphaCode and data-driven programming - Is ignoring everything that
is known about code the best way to write programs??
.<https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.add8258
Yes, I was wondering how it would write a GPS module output parser in PIC 18F asm
to get position and speed.
Maybe it would find my GPL code and use it ??
After all a program is just like travel instructions using a map, go left, second right, turn left again...
but you have to know where you are going...
There is a lot more involved than just \'code\'.
I have seen AI generated python code a few days back... for a simple text reversal challenge.
Would be even clearer in C, but the question is always what / how does it fit into what you actually want to do.
That is the higher level issue.
So we will see where it will go.
Striking to capitalism would be if it wrote code that needed less bloat, hardware,
that would hamper sales hehehehe!
LOL, and then AI would be forbidden!I mean we now need 8 GB of RAM and several GHz clock speed to say \"Hello world\", plus about a terabyte of OS and
daily upgrades, its big business.
J
Jan Panteltje
Guest
On a sunny day (Tue, 13 Jun 2023 16:52:31 -0000 (UTC)) it happened \"Don\"
<g@crcomp.net> wrote in <20240613a@crcomp.net>:
Nice, a but not autonomous
I like to code in asm and C...
I also tried the new google AI thing but got: \'Not available in your country\'.
Maybe it will be made available later.
Have not tried it via anonymiser yet ;-)
<g@crcomp.net> wrote in <20240613a@crcomp.net>:
Jan Panteltje wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
Jan Panteltje wrote:
How Raspberry Pis Are Made:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-manufacturing-process
Cool. Pi supplies got whacked by scalpers and the Foundation is going
to make them regret it.
We have a Yamaha pick-and-place assembly line, somebody\'s selective
solder machine for thru-hole parts, automated optical inspection, and
a Boss laser for blasting graphics onto boxes. I guess those are
robots.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ly5t1ve5c08qxzqgxzmld/20200520_175949.jpg?dl=0&rlkey=hnj1af2tr7i1icp2oml1549kt
Yes, but the little arms look more human
As to more human, was trying some more AI chat links today,
bit disappointing. thing did not even know that it was more than just a program...
(hardware it runs on).
And an other one: \'we\' went into Einstein and gravity and math, and it knew about everything we can find on the internet too,
but failed at deducing things...
Mostly a world wide web data parrot.
AI has a long way to go
Some of my colleagues operate a Da Vinci robot with more arms than
Shiva:
https://www.intuitive.com/en-us/patients/da-vinci-robotic-surgery
Nice, a but not autonomous
I like to code in asm and C...
I also tried the new google AI thing but got: \'Not available in your country\'.
Maybe it will be made available later.
Have not tried it via anonymiser yet ;-)
D
Don
Guest
Jan Panteltje wrote:
<snip>
Deep Fake gooberment lawlessness ought to be outlawed.
Maybe Beatlemaniacs will finally experience the coveted reunion?
Danke,
--
Don, KB7RPU, https://www.qsl.net/kb7rpu
There was a young lady named Bright Whose speed was far faster than light;
She set out one day In a relative way And returned on the previous night.
<snip>
Deep Fake gooberment lawlessness ought to be outlawed.
Maybe Beatlemaniacs will finally experience the coveted reunion?
Danke,
--
Don, KB7RPU, https://www.qsl.net/kb7rpu
There was a young lady named Bright Whose speed was far faster than light;
She set out one day In a relative way And returned on the previous night.
J
Jan Panteltje
Guest
On a sunny day (Wed, 14 Jun 2023 16:04:28 -0000 (UTC)) it happened \"Don\"
<g@crcomp.net> wrote in <20240614a@crcomp.net>:
I had some of those Jehovah\'s Witnesses I think it was at the door..
we got into a discussion (could not resist) about the Bible
They told me it had been edited 600 times or so...
Control by religions .. make believe.. Rain dances in the jungle
So, use logic and common sense.
Strawberry fields forever...
https://genius.com/The-beatles-strawberry-fields-forever-lyrics
<g@crcomp.net> wrote in <20240614a@crcomp.net>:
I had some of those Jehovah\'s Witnesses I think it was at the door..
we got into a discussion (could not resist) about the Bible
They told me it had been edited 600 times or so...
Control by religions .. make believe.. Rain dances in the jungle
So, use logic and common sense.
Strawberry fields forever...
https://genius.com/The-beatles-strawberry-fields-forever-lyrics