Anyone running Cadence under Solaris on Sun Fire x86 Servers

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John

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HW: Sun Fire v40Z w/dual AMD Opteron dual-core processors
OS: Solaris 9 for x86

Looking at the script to install InstallScape leaves me wondering if
Cadence supports Solaris on Sun x86 boxes?

We were told that Cadence supports up to Solaris 9, and we have tested
that configuration successfully on an older Sun Fireblade 1000 (SPARC
architecture).

The getiscape.sh script to automate the installation of InstallScape
provides 5 Hardware/OS choices, but none of them match our configuration
exactly.

Platform: OS:
==================================
1. sun4v Sun SPARC/Solaris
2. hppa HP PA/RISC HP UX
3. lnx86 Intel/Linux
4. ibmrs IBM AIX
5. lni64 Itanium/Linux

Curiously, when selecting, "3. lnx86 Intel/Linux", the script doesn't
ask what version of Linux.

After more research, I'm finding that Solaris can run Linux apps
unmodified. I haven't read enough to share the specifics yet, other than
Sun is working on a newer method for Solaris 10 than was used in Solaris 9.

I would appreciate hearing from Cadence support and Cadence end-users on
this topic.

Thanks!

John
 
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 20:49:17 -0500, John <sun_powered@cmaaccess.com>
wrote:

HW: Sun Fire v40Z w/dual AMD Opteron dual-core processors
OS: Solaris 9 for x86

Looking at the script to install InstallScape leaves me wondering if
Cadence supports Solaris on Sun x86 boxes?

We were told that Cadence supports up to Solaris 9, and we have tested
that configuration successfully on an older Sun Fireblade 1000 (SPARC
architecture).

The getiscape.sh script to automate the installation of InstallScape
provides 5 Hardware/OS choices, but none of them match our configuration
exactly.

Platform: OS:
==================================
1. sun4v Sun SPARC/Solaris
2. hppa HP PA/RISC HP UX
3. lnx86 Intel/Linux
4. ibmrs IBM AIX
5. lni64 Itanium/Linux

Curiously, when selecting, "3. lnx86 Intel/Linux", the script doesn't
ask what version of Linux.

After more research, I'm finding that Solaris can run Linux apps
unmodified. I haven't read enough to share the specifics yet, other than
Sun is working on a newer method for Solaris 10 than was used in Solaris 9.

I would appreciate hearing from Cadence support and Cadence end-users on
this topic.

Thanks!

John
Click to expand...
Solaris on x86 is not a supported platform yet. The only Sun
architecture Cadence supports at the moment is SPARC. Solaris 10 x86 is
supposed to be coming, but I don't know when.
 
John wrote:
Looking at the script to install InstallScape leaves me wondering if
Cadence supports Solaris on Sun x86 boxes?
Click to expand...
No.

Platform: OS:
==================================
1. sun4v Sun SPARC/Solaris
2. hppa HP PA/RISC HP UX
3. lnx86 Intel/Linux
4. ibmrs IBM AIX
5. lni64 Itanium/Linux

Curiously, when selecting, "3. lnx86 Intel/Linux", the script doesn't
ask what version of Linux.
Click to expand...
Various Cadence (and Synopsys and Mentor and Magma and...)
applications are supported and/or run fine on a blizzard of
various Linux distributions and releases. No, the installation
wrappers don't try to discriminate, in general.

The applications might, however. In particular, the compiled-code
logic simulators (VCS, NCsim and friends) are understandably
extremely picky about what release/version they run on.

The full Cadence application/OS matrix is:

http://www.cadence.com/support/computing/support_platform.aspx

"Normal" applications (Encounter, Astro, Blast Fusion, Hspice,
Spectre, Eldo, Calibre, Hercules Assura...) tend to be
tolerant about what Linux they run on; for example, Virtuoso
5141 is only officially supported on RHEL2. I'm running
on dual-core Opteron HW with RHEL4-U3, works great.

More-or-less ditto for Calibre and Hercules, for example.

After more research, I'm finding that Solaris can run Linux apps
unmodified. I haven't read enough to share the specifics yet, other than
Sun is working on a newer method for Solaris 10 than was used in Solaris 9.
Click to expand...
I don't think you're talking about lxrun, that sounds a bit dodgy for
running EDA apps.

http://www.sun.com/software/linux/compatibility/lxrun/download.xml

So I think you're talking about "Solaris Containers for Linux".

http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/scla.jsp

Which I *think* is really Xen, and is really just running Solaris and
Linux on the the same HW simultaneously.

-Jay-
 
Edward Kalenda wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 20:49:17 -0500, John <sun_powered@cmaaccess.com
wrote:

HW: Sun Fire v40Z w/dual AMD Opteron dual-core processors
OS: Solaris 9 for x86

Looking at the script to install InstallScape leaves me wondering if
Cadence supports Solaris on Sun x86 boxes?

We were told that Cadence supports up to Solaris 9, and we have tested
that configuration successfully on an older Sun Fireblade 1000 (SPARC
architecture).

The getiscape.sh script to automate the installation of InstallScape
provides 5 Hardware/OS choices, but none of them match our configuration
exactly.

Platform: OS:
==================================
1. sun4v Sun SPARC/Solaris
2. hppa HP PA/RISC HP UX
3. lnx86 Intel/Linux
4. ibmrs IBM AIX
5. lni64 Itanium/Linux

Curiously, when selecting, "3. lnx86 Intel/Linux", the script doesn't
ask what version of Linux.

After more research, I'm finding that Solaris can run Linux apps
unmodified. I haven't read enough to share the specifics yet, other than
Sun is working on a newer method for Solaris 10 than was used in Solaris 9.

I would appreciate hearing from Cadence support and Cadence end-users on
this topic.

Thanks!

John

Solaris on x86 is not a supported platform yet. The only Sun
architecture Cadence supports at the moment is SPARC. Solaris 10 x86 is
supposed to be coming, but I don't know when.
Click to expand...
Thanks, Ed!

FYI, I just read a Cadence EOL (End of Life) support on Solaris 8 & 9.
Looks like Cadence is commited to having all their apps running on
Solaris 10 by Jan. 1, 2008.
 
jayl-news@accelerant.net wrote:
John wrote:
Looking at the script to install InstallScape leaves me wondering if
Cadence supports Solaris on Sun x86 boxes?

No.

Platform: OS:
==================================
1. sun4v Sun SPARC/Solaris
2. hppa HP PA/RISC HP UX
3. lnx86 Intel/Linux
4. ibmrs IBM AIX
5. lni64 Itanium/Linux

Curiously, when selecting, "3. lnx86 Intel/Linux", the script doesn't
ask what version of Linux.

Various Cadence (and Synopsys and Mentor and Magma and...)
applications are supported and/or run fine on a blizzard of
various Linux distributions and releases. No, the installation
wrappers don't try to discriminate, in general.

The applications might, however. In particular, the compiled-code
logic simulators (VCS, NCsim and friends) are understandably
extremely picky about what release/version they run on.

The full Cadence application/OS matrix is:

http://www.cadence.com/support/computing/support_platform.aspx

"Normal" applications (Encounter, Astro, Blast Fusion, Hspice,
Spectre, Eldo, Calibre, Hercules Assura...) tend to be
tolerant about what Linux they run on; for example, Virtuoso
5141 is only officially supported on RHEL2. I'm running
on dual-core Opteron HW with RHEL4-U3, works great.

More-or-less ditto for Calibre and Hercules, for example.

After more research, I'm finding that Solaris can run Linux apps
unmodified. I haven't read enough to share the specifics yet, other than
Sun is working on a newer method for Solaris 10 than was used in Solaris 9.

I don't think you're talking about lxrun, that sounds a bit dodgy for
running EDA apps.

http://www.sun.com/software/linux/compatibility/lxrun/download.xml

So I think you're talking about "Solaris Containers for Linux".

http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/scla.jsp

Which I *think* is really Xen, and is really just running Solaris and
Linux on the the same HW simultaneously.

-Jay-
Click to expand...
Thanks for all that info, Jay! That was my next question, "Anyone
running Cadence on Linux and what versions??" I'm leaning towards SUSE
Linux Enterprise System 9. It seems to have outstanding support for the
AMD Opterons (including dual core). Did you happen to compare Red Hat
with SUSE before you selected it? Be curious to hear any feedback, Jay.

Thanks again!
John
 
John wrote:
Thanks for all that info, Jay! That was my next question, "Anyone
running Cadence on Linux and what versions??" I'm leaning towards SUSE
Linux Enterprise System 9. It seems to have outstanding support for the
AMD Opterons (including dual core). Did you happen to compare Red Hat
with SUSE before you selected it?
Click to expand...
No, it's a corporate IT decision, and I had nothing to
do with it. :)

If you're worried about "official" support from
CDN/SNPS/MENT/LAVA/etc.,
then RHEL3/4 is the majority answer. Dunno what I'd do today
if I was back in a small shop and making the decision myself...

-Jay-
 
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