Anyone for Windows 8?

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[atec77]

On 3/06/2011 8:37 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/06/microsoft-gives-the-first-official-look-of-windows-8-touch-interface.ars


Cheers Don...


========================

Not like win 7 works terribly but testing it on didn't work

must be time to try another abomination on us

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[annily]

On 2011-06-03 11:03, atec77 wrote:

On 3/06/2011 8:37 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/06/microsoft-gives-the-first-official-look-of-windows-8-touch-interface.ars



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========================

Not like win 7 works terribly but testing it on didn't work

Huh?

must be time to try another abomination on us

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[Don McKenzie]

On 03-Jun-11 3:10 PM, annily wrote:

On 2011-06-03 11:03, atec77 wrote:
On 3/06/2011 8:37 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/06/microsoft-gives-the-first-official-look-of-windows-8-touch-interface.ars



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========================

Not like win 7 works terribly but testing it on didn't work


Huh?

thought it was just me for a moment

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A touch interface arse wow what will be the PC version???

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On 03-Jun-11 4:32 PM, SG1 wrote:

"Don McKenzie"<5V@2.5A> wrote in message
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http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/06/microsoft-gives-the-first-official-look-of-windows-8-touch-interface.ars


A touch interface arse wow what will be the PC version???

My guess is that this is the push to move everyone onto new hardware with touch screens.
If you don't have a touch screen, you will mouse around in the old fashion way.

Just like you had to key TAB around if you didn't have a mouse years ago.

Cheers Don...

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[atec77]

On 3/06/2011 4:18 PM, Don McKenzie wrote:

On 03-Jun-11 3:10 PM, annily wrote:
On 2011-06-03 11:03, atec77 wrote:
On 3/06/2011 8:37 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/06/microsoft-gives-the-first-official-look-of-windows-8-touch-interface.ars




Cheers Don...


========================

Not like win 7 works terribly but testing it on didn't work


Huh?

thought it was just me for a moment

Cheers Don...

==================

Nah I missed the word "well"

call it a typo

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[Dennis]

"atec77" <atec77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On 3/06/2011 4:18 PM, Don McKenzie wrote:
On 03-Jun-11 3:10 PM, annily wrote:
On 2011-06-03 11:03, atec77 wrote:
On 3/06/2011 8:37 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/06/microsoft-gives-the-first-official-look-of-windows-8-touch-interface.ars




Cheers Don...


========================

Not like win 7 works terribly but testing it on didn't work


Huh?

thought it was just me for a moment

Cheers Don...

==================

Nah I missed the word "well"
call it a typo

That's a wordo not a typo!

 

[Dr Who]

Don McKenzie wrote:

On 03-Jun-11 4:32 PM, SG1 wrote:
"Don McKenzie"<5V@2.5A> wrote in message
news:94qhkcFp4pU2@mid.individual.net...
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/06/microsoft-gives-the-first-official-look-of-windows-8-touch-interface.ars


A touch interface arse wow what will be the PC version???

My guess is that this is the push to move everyone onto new hardware with touch screens.
If you don't have a touch screen, you will mouse around in the old fashion way.

Just like you had to key TAB around if you didn't have a mouse years ago.

Cheers Don...

======================

What's the big appeal of a touch screen?

Surely it would be just as quick to use a mouse and no grubby marks left on the screen.

Sounds like technology gone mad for no real reason.

How many current apps would even support this?

One thing I hated when I was an all day every day PC user in IT was some wally poking his finger on the screen and leaving greasy fingerprints.
--

 

[Rod Speed]

Dr Who wrote

Don McKenzie wrote
SG1 wrote
Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> wrote

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/06/microsoft-gives-the-first-official-look-of-windows-8-touch-interface.ars

A touch interface arse wow what will be the PC version???

My guess is that this is the push to move everyone onto new hardware
with touch screens. If you don't have a touch screen, you will mouse
around in the old fashion way.

Just like you had to key TAB around if you didn't have a mouse years ago.

What's the big appeal of a touch screen?

It can be very convenient.

Surely it would be just as quick to use a mouse
and no grubby marks left on the screen.

Try telling that to those who use iphones, GPSs, etc etc etc

Dont be too surprised when they just laugh in your face.

Sounds like technology gone mad for no real reason.

Then your ears need testing, BAD.

How many current apps would even support this?

All of them if the OS does it well.

One thing I hated when I was an all day every day PC user in IT was
some wally poking his finger on the screen and leaving greasy fingerprints.

Your problem.

 

[Clocky]

atec77 wrote:

On 3/06/2011 4:18 PM, Don McKenzie wrote:
On 03-Jun-11 3:10 PM, annily wrote:
On 2011-06-03 11:03, atec77 wrote:
On 3/06/2011 8:37 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/06/microsoft-gives-the-first-official-look-of-windows-8-touch-interface.ars




Cheers Don...


========================

Not like win 7 works terribly but testing it on didn't work


Huh?

thought it was just me for a moment

Cheers Don...

==================

Nah I missed the word "well"
call it a typo

Intellectual disability induced illiteracy isn't a "typo".

 

[kreed]

On Jun 3, 7:45 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:

Dr Who wrote

Don McKenzie wrote
SG1 wrote
Don McKenzie <5...@2.5A>  wrote
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/06/microsoft-gives-the-fir....
A touch interface arse wow what will be the PC version???
My guess is that this is the push to move everyone onto new hardware
with touch screens. If you don't have a touch screen, you will mouse
around in the old fashion way.
Just like you had to key TAB around if you didn't have a mouse years ago.
What's the big appeal of a touch screen?

It can be very convenient.

Surely it would be just as quick to use a mouse
and no grubby marks left on the screen.

Try telling that to those who use iphones, GPSs, etc etc etc

Dont be too surprised when they just laugh in your face.

Sounds like technology gone mad for no real reason.

Then your ears need testing, BAD.

How many current apps would even support this?

All of them if the OS does it well.

One thing I hated when I was an all day every day PC user in IT was
some wally poking his finger on the screen and leaving greasy fingerprints.

Your problem.

Handheld devices work well with this, (there is no room for a decent
keyboard or mouse anyway)
Laptops would probably be ok, but I don't think it will work out very
well on a desktop PC,
for starters holding your arm out to tap on a screen to do things
would get very tiring after a while,
compared to using a mouse that sits right next to the keyboard. In
many cases, the screens sit too far away, particularly
if multiple screens are used.

A finger has not got very fine resolution, and depending on what you
are doing, and where you have to put
your finger on the screen, it can block a large part of your view.

 

[kreed]

On Jun 3, 5:06 pm, Don McKenzie <5...@2.5A> wrote:

On 03-Jun-11 4:32 PM, SG1 wrote:

"Don McKenzie"<5...@2.5A>  wrote in message
news:94qhkcFp4pU2@mid.individual.net...
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/06/microsoft-gives-the-fir....

A touch interface arse wow what will be the PC version???

My guess is that this is the push to move everyone onto new hardware with touch screens.
If you don't have a touch screen, you will mouse around in the old fashion way.

Just like you had to key TAB around if you didn't have a mouse years ago.

Cheers Don...

Yes, and I can well remember buying my first serial mouse back around
1991 or so, and finding
that it didn't work in many applications . Probably only in win 3.1
that I can remember, but could be wrong.
Everything was keyboard driven.

That changed real quick though with a lot of the games soon supporting
the mouse, and then WIN95 made it a must-have.


This may be the case here too, assuming it isn't another MS flop. The
Touch Screen and PC might be problematic though

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[Rod Speed]

kreed wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
Dr Who wrote
Don McKenzie wrote
SG1 wrote
Don McKenzie <5...@2.5A> wrote

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/06/microsoft-gives-the-fir...

A touch interface arse wow what will be the PC version???

My guess is that this is the push to move everyone onto new
hardware with touch screens. If you don't have a touch screen, you
will mouse around in the old fashion way.

Just like you had to key TAB around if you didn't have a mouse years ago.

What's the big appeal of a touch screen?

It can be very convenient.

Surely it would be just as quick to use a mouse
and no grubby marks left on the screen.

Try telling that to those who use iphones, GPSs, etc etc etc

Dont be too surprised when they just laugh in your face.

Sounds like technology gone mad for no real reason.

Then your ears need testing, BAD.

How many current apps would even support this?

All of them if the OS does it well.

One thing I hated when I was an all day every day PC user in IT was
some wally poking his finger on the screen and leaving greasy fingerprints.

Your problem.

Handheld devices work well with this,

Yes, I love my touch screen GPS and am irritated when
I have to use a non touch screen mobile phone again.

(there is no room for a decent keyboard or mouse anyway)

Yes, but there is room for some physical keys.

Laptops would probably be ok,

We know they are, and tablets in spades.

but I don't think it will work out very well on a desktop PC,

They do in some situations. Plenty of process control systems do it
that way and the self checkouts at Woolys work fine that way too.

for starters holding your arm out to tap on a screen
to do things would get very tiring after a while,

Not of the screen is in your lap etc.

compared to using a mouse that sits right next to the keyboard.

Mine doesnt. I compute from a deep armchair with my feet
up and have been doing that for more than 30 years now.

In many cases, the screens sit too far away,

Yeah, mine do too. Mine are well back from my fingertips with my arms
straight out, I sit further back from the screen than most people do.

particularly if multiple screens are used.

Mine are all the same distance away except for the big TV.

A finger has not got very fine resolution,

Yes, but you dont use that very much. I cant see anyone much
doing everything exclusively with a touch screen, I expect that
most will still have a proper keyboard for the volume text entry
like with these posts and other email etc, and there is no reason
why you cant use a mouse when you need the higher resolution
like when molesting photos etc.

and depending on what you are doing, and where you have to put
your finger on the screen, it can block a large part of your view.

Yes, but thats easily fixed with a well designed touch screen system.

I dont ever find that a problem when using the GPS and entering a
town name or street name etc. Its extremely desirable to have the
system offer what matches what text you have already entered and
is intelligent about offering you recent selections with towns etc.

I havent ever needed to clean the GPS screen, likely because I tend
to use the fingernail on the screen rather than the fleshy part of the
finger and have noticed that it isnt a good idea to cut the pointing
finger fingernail right back when trimming the fingernails because
that makes it less convenient to select stuff on the GPS.

 

[Don McKenzie]

On 03-Jun-11 8:37 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/06/microsoft-gives-the-first-official-look-of-windows-8-touch-interface.ars

PC touch screens will be driven by the younger set, not the dinosaurs.

Bacteria survive and thrive on steering wheels in cars. Why? Because people eat over the top of them.
And the same thing applies to PC keyboards.

Imagine the new generation using a PC touch screen to read the morning paper, which I'm sure many are doing right now
with iPhones and other weapons of choice.

You want your morning toast with sticky topping, spread all over your touch screen?
Job done!

I can imagine this, and it won't be healthy.

Will blast the mobile phone radio cancer theorists into oblivion, while we concentrate on yet another new tax. This time
for touch screens because of massive new health bills.

Perhaps we could have a Federal Government scheme for seniors, and send a team of steam screen cleaners around on a
regular basis, to help stem this new health hazard.

Seniors Scheme for Screen Steamers.

Sorry, must be a slow morning for me. I deserve a good stoning, or at least thrown to the ground.
(Credit: Monty Python Group)




Cheers Don...

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[Dr Who]

kreed wrote:

On Jun 3, 7:45 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
Dr Who wrote

Don McKenzie wrote
SG1 wrote
Don McKenzie <5...@2.5A>  wrote
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/06/microsoft-gives-the-fir...
A touch interface arse wow what will be the PC version???
My guess is that this is the push to move everyone onto new hardware
with touch screens. If you don't have a touch screen, you will mouse
around in the old fashion way.
Just like you had to key TAB around if you didn't have a mouse years ago.
What's the big appeal of a touch screen?

It can be very convenient.

Surely it would be just as quick to use a mouse
and no grubby marks left on the screen.

Try telling that to those who use iphones, GPSs, etc etc etc

Dont be too surprised when they just laugh in your face.

Sounds like technology gone mad for no real reason.

Then your ears need testing, BAD.

How many current apps would even support this?

All of them if the OS does it well.

One thing I hated when I was an all day every day PC user in IT was
some wally poking his finger on the screen and leaving greasy fingerprints.

Your problem.

Handheld devices work well with this, (there is no room for a decent
keyboard or mouse anyway)
Laptops would probably be ok, but I don't think it will work out very
well on a desktop PC,
for starters holding your arm out to tap on a screen to do things
would get very tiring after a while,
compared to using a mouse that sits right next to the keyboard. In
many cases, the screens sit too far away, particularly
if multiple screens are used.

A finger has not got very fine resolution, and depending on what you
are doing, and where you have to put
your finger on the screen, it can block a large part of your view.

Yes, that's my point.

OBVIOUSLY this system suits handhelds and mobile hardware, but I don't see any benefit for desktop PCs.

--

 

[Rod Speed]

Dr Who wrote:

kreed wrote:

On Jun 3, 7:45 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
Dr Who wrote

Don McKenzie wrote
SG1 wrote
Don McKenzie <5...@2.5A> wrote
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/06/microsoft-gives-the-fir...
A touch interface arse wow what will be the PC version???
My guess is that this is the push to move everyone onto new
hardware with touch screens. If you don't have a touch screen,
you will mouse around in the old fashion way.
Just like you had to key TAB around if you didn't have a mouse
years ago.
What's the big appeal of a touch screen?

It can be very convenient.

Surely it would be just as quick to use a mouse
and no grubby marks left on the screen.

Try telling that to those who use iphones, GPSs, etc etc etc

Dont be too surprised when they just laugh in your face.

Sounds like technology gone mad for no real reason.

Then your ears need testing, BAD.

How many current apps would even support this?

All of them if the OS does it well.

One thing I hated when I was an all day every day PC user in IT was
some wally poking his finger on the screen and leaving greasy
fingerprints.

Your problem.

Handheld devices work well with this, (there is no room for a decent
keyboard or mouse anyway)
Laptops would probably be ok, but I don't think it will work out
very well on a desktop PC,
for starters holding your arm out to tap on a screen to do things
would get very tiring after a while,
compared to using a mouse that sits right next to the keyboard. In
many cases, the screens sit too far away, particularly
if multiple screens are used.

A finger has not got very fine resolution, and depending on what you
are doing, and where you have to put
your finger on the screen, it can block a large part of your view.

Yes, that's my point.

OBVIOUSLY this system suits handhelds and mobile hardware, but I
don't see any benefit for desktop PCs.

Fools ran the same line about mice.

 

[geoff]

atec77 wrote:

Not like win 7 works terribly but testing it on didn't work


Huh?

thought it was just me for a moment

Cheers Don...

==================

Nah I missed the word "well"
call it a typo

Um, doesn't help that much either !

geoff

 

[geoff]

Rod Speed wrote:

Surely it would be just as quick to use a mouse
and no grubby marks left on the screen.

Try telling that to those who use iphones, GPSs, etc etc etc

I do. Yes, it's a pain.

geoff

 

[Rod Speed]

geoff wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:


Surely it would be just as quick to use a mouse
and no grubby marks left on the screen.

Try telling that to those who use iphones, GPSs, etc etc etc

I do. Yes, it's a pain.

geoff