AntiBark?

[Kenny]

Cheap device which is supposed to emit ultrasonic sound when the dog barks
to quieten noisy dog. It doesn't affect the dog at all but how do I know if
it's working or not, there's no indication on it?
I bought it in local shop but this is same one, wish I'd seen the bad
reviews first.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bark-Stop-x/dp/B00Y8PCFYW

Kenny Cargill

 

[Gareth Magennis]

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Cheap device which is supposed to emit ultrasonic sound when the dog barks
to quieten noisy dog. It doesn't affect the dog at all but how do I know if
it's working or not, there's no indication on it?
I bought it in local shop but this is same one, wish I'd seen the bad
reviews first.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bark-Stop-x/dp/B00Y8PCFYW

Kenny Cargill



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Unlikely to work at all unless you hang it on the dog.

The dog will soon tell you if it works or not.



Gareth,

 

[Gareth Magennis]

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"Kenny" wrote in message
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Cheap device which is supposed to emit ultrasonic sound when the dog barks
to quieten noisy dog. It doesn't affect the dog at all but how do I know if
it's working or not, there's no indication on it?
I bought it in local shop but this is same one, wish I'd seen the bad
reviews first.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bark-Stop-x/dp/B00Y8PCFYW

Kenny Cargill



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Unlikely to work at all unless you hang it on the dog.

The dog will soon tell you if it works or not.



Gareth,




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Also, the one I have tried emits audible artifacts when triggered, you can
hear it working.


Gareth.

 

[Ralph Mowery]

In article <EfmdnYILj6eyUoXEnZ2dnUU78bPNnZ2d@brightview.com>,
me@privacy.net says...

Cheap device which is supposed to emit ultrasonic sound when the dog barks
to quieten noisy dog. It doesn't affect the dog at all but how do I know if
it's working or not, there's no indication on it?
I bought it in local shop but this is same one, wish I'd seen the bad
reviews first.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bark-Stop-x/dp/B00Y8PCFYW

Kenny Cargill

You could use a microphone connected to an oscilloscope and probably see
the tone.

Years ago I bought a ultrasonic switch kit from Radio Shack. When I
pointed the hand held unit at my dog about 10 feet away and pressed the
button I could see his ears fly up.

 

[Jon Elson]

Kenny wrote:

Cheap device which is supposed to emit ultrasonic sound when the dog barks
to quieten noisy dog. It doesn't affect the dog at all but how do I know
if it's working or not, there's no indication on it?

If the dog goes "Bark bark" and suddenly drops to the ground and puts his
paws over his ears, you KNOW it is working.

Jon

 

[MJC]

In article <MPG.3382b12549764f42989901@news.east.earthlink.net>,
rmowery28146@earthlink.net says...

Years ago I bought a ultrasonic switch kit from Radio Shack. When I
pointed the hand held unit at my dog about 10 feet away and pressed the
button I could see his ears fly up.

~ digital pet!

Mike.

 

[MJC]

In article <EfmdnYILj6eyUoXEnZ2dnUU78bPNnZ2d@brightview.com>,
me@privacy.net says...

Cheap device which is supposed to emit ultrasonic sound when the dog barks
to quieten noisy dog. It doesn't affect the dog at all but how do I know if
it's working or not, there's no indication on it?

Kenny Cargill

Find someone surveying for bats using an ultrasonic bat detector and
make them jump with your emitter?

Mike.

 

[N_Cook]

On 14/05/2017 22:42, Kenny wrote:

Cheap device which is supposed to emit ultrasonic sound when the dog
barks to quieten noisy dog. It doesn't affect the dog at all but how do
I know if it's working or not, there's no indication on it?
I bought it in local shop but this is same one, wish I'd seen the bad
reviews first.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bark-Stop-x/dp/B00Y8PCFYW

Kenny Cargill

Would there be enough power to disturb some water, in a paper cup, with
the sound source directly under the cup, touching the base?

 

On Sunday, 14 May 2017 22:42:14 UTC+1, Kenny wrote:

Cheap device which is supposed to emit ultrasonic sound when the dog barks
to quieten noisy dog. It doesn't affect the dog at all but how do I know if
it's working or not, there's no indication on it?
I bought it in local shop but this is same one, wish I'd seen the bad
reviews first.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bark-Stop-x/dp/B00Y8PCFYW

Kenny Cargill

Meter voltage on the transducer.
Use an ultrasonic transducer for a mic & multiply it with variable 20-100kHz signal.
Try it on random dogs.
etc


NT

 

[Gareth Magennis]

"N_Cook" wrote in message newsfbvoe$gid$1@dont-email.me...

On 14/05/2017 22:42, Kenny wrote:

Cheap device which is supposed to emit ultrasonic sound when the dog
barks to quieten noisy dog. It doesn't affect the dog at all but how do
I know if it's working or not, there's no indication on it?
I bought it in local shop but this is same one, wish I'd seen the bad
reviews first.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bark-Stop-x/dp/B00Y8PCFYW

Kenny Cargill

Would there be enough power to disturb some water, in a paper cup, with
the sound source directly under the cup, touching the base?


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Nigel, you're scaring me. Where are you going with this?



Gareth.

 

[amdx]

On 5/15/2017 5:29 AM, N_Cook wrote:

On 14/05/2017 22:42, Kenny wrote:
Cheap device which is supposed to emit ultrasonic sound when the dog
barks to quieten noisy dog. It doesn't affect the dog at all but how do
I know if it's working or not, there's no indication on it?
I bought it in local shop but this is same one, wish I'd seen the bad
reviews first.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bark-Stop-x/dp/B00Y8PCFYW

Kenny Cargill

Would there be enough power to disturb some water, in a paper cup, with
the sound source directly under the cup, touching the base?

I used to work with ultrasound equipment that would disturb the water.
> https://web.archive.org/web/20070222134337/http://www.ultrasonic-energy.com:80/Image5.jpg
BTW, the picture shows a 6" plume of water emitted from an aquarium
filled to about 6".

Mikek

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[mike]

On 5/15/2017 7:06 PM, amdx wrote:

On 5/15/2017 5:29 AM, N_Cook wrote:
On 14/05/2017 22:42, Kenny wrote:
Cheap device which is supposed to emit ultrasonic sound when the dog
barks to quieten noisy dog. It doesn't affect the dog at all but how do
I know if it's working or not, there's no indication on it?
I bought it in local shop
Retail outlet or thrift store where people dump their non-working stuff?

These don't work unless they recognize the dog barking.
Maybe your dog learned how to spoof it?
How old is your dog? Maybe he don't hear so good.

I have one that is a collar. It's a bark-sensing taser.
I don't have a dog, but I hear they're quite effective.
Really easy to see if it works, but do it outside so you
don't soil the carpet.

but this is same one, wish I'd seen the bad

reviews first.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bark-Stop-x/dp/B00Y8PCFYW

Kenny Cargill

Would there be enough power to disturb some water, in a paper cup,
with the sound source directly under the cup, touching the base?

Isn't that the way ultrasonic humidifiers work? For such a low
power device, the hard part will be coupling the water to the emitter.
And if they use the same element for bark sensing and output, that
would probably desensitize the sensing part.

I have a device that's basically an audio mixer. It mixes the
ultrasonic down to audible frequencies. Used to detect leaky pipes
and other things that might hiss at high frequencies. Know anybody
in the plumbing or HVAC business?

I used to work with ultrasound equipment that would disturb the water.
https://web.archive.org/web/20070222134337/http://www.ultrasonic-energy.com:80/Image5.jpg

BTW, the picture shows a 6" plume of water emitted from an aquarium
filled to about 6".

Mikek

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On Sun, 14 May 2017 19:24:14 -0400, Ralph Mowery
<rmowery28146@earthlink.net> wrote:

In article <EfmdnYILj6eyUoXEnZ2dnUU78bPNnZ2d@brightview.com>,
me@privacy.net says...

Cheap device which is supposed to emit ultrasonic sound when the dog barks
to quieten noisy dog. It doesn't affect the dog at all but how do I know if
it's working or not, there's no indication on it?
I bought it in local shop but this is same one, wish I'd seen the bad
reviews first.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bark-Stop-x/dp/B00Y8PCFYW

Kenny Cargill

You could use a microphone connected to an oscilloscope and probably see
the tone.

Or open the device and connect the scope to the speaker. I assume there
has to be some sort of speaker in it.

I do wonder what this "ultrasonic" frequency really is? Humans are
supposed to hear up to 20K. (Most of us dont hear that high). So, if
this device is say 25K, we cant hear it. But do dogs hear that high?
Does anyone really know the hearing range for a dog? If someone claims
they do know, how can they prove it? It's just like people say horses do
not see color. I disagree based on trying different things, like
changing feed pail colors, but I cant really prove it.

There is another solution. I used this one when I had a dog that barked
all the time and refused to stop no matter what I did to train or scold
him. One day I just called the Humane Society and told them I had a dog
for them. They took him, and I no longer heard any barking. Now I have
some cats, a goat, a donkey and some miniature horses. ALL are better
pets. I never want another dog.

Man's best friend is any of the other animals I mentioned. Man's biggest
nuisance is a dog.

If you (the OP) does connect a scope to this thing, I'd be interested in
knowing what the frequency is.

By the way, I once lived in a house that always got mice in the house. I
bought an ultrasonic thing that was supposed to chase the mice away.
WORTHLESS GARBAGE!
What did work, was mouse traps and cats. (And eventually moving to
another house that did not have mice entry holes).

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Years ago I bought a ultrasonic switch kit from Radio Shack. When I
pointed the hand held unit at my dog about 10 feet away and pressed the
button I could see his ears fly up.

 

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 3:26:40 AM UTC-4, olds...@tubes.com wrote:
But do dogs hear that high?

Does anyone really know the hearing range for a dog? If someone claims
they do know, how can they prove it?

That's easy. Train a dog to come to a whistle. Keep upping the frequency until the dog no longer responds. That's your limit, at least for your dog and most likely it's breed.

 

[pfjw@aol.com]

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 2:02:22 PM UTC-4, ohg...@gmail.com wrote:

> That's easy. Train a dog to come to a whistle. Keep upping the frequency until the dog no longer responds. That's your limit, at least for your dog and most likely it's breed.

Careful - stating the obvious to Old School is an exercise in futility.

I am emphatically not a dog person - but we have kept dogs for the last 30 years, always two, always including at least one Golden Retriever. Now a Scottie and a Golden.

There are *no* bad dogs - only bad humans. This includes pit-bulls, which are dangerous as much due to their breeding (by bad humans for dog-fighting) as by their natures - highly protective and aggressive, no surprise there.

As to cats, they hear at least as well as dogs, but are focused on a slightly different part of the spectrum.

Hearing: There are sounds, and there are over/undertones. One may not hear something specifically, but one may be annoyed by artifacts created by a given sound. And a pure sine-wave of a specific frequency will sound quite different than a note struck on a piano or played on a violin due to those artifacts.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

 

[Foxs Mercantile]

On 5/16/2017 1:24 AM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:

There is another solution. I used this one when I had a dog that barked
all the time and refused to stop no matter what I did to train or scold
him. One day I just called the Humane Society and told them I had a dog
for them. They took him, and I no longer heard any barking. Now I have
some cats, a goat, a donkey and some miniature horses. ALL are better
pets. I never want another dog.

Man's best friend is any of the other animals I mentioned. Man's biggest
nuisance is a dog.

More proof you're a worthless individual.


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Jeff-1.0
wa6fwi
http://www.foxsmercantile.com

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[Kenny]

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On Sunday, 14 May 2017 22:42:14 UTC+1, Kenny wrote:

Cheap device which is supposed to emit ultrasonic sound when the dog barks
to quieten noisy dog. It doesn't affect the dog at all but how do I know
if
it's working or not, there's no indication on it?
I bought it in local shop but this is same one, wish I'd seen the bad
reviews first.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bark-Stop-x/dp/B00Y8PCFYW

Kenny Cargill

Meter voltage on the transducer.
Use an ultrasonic transducer for a mic & multiply it with variable 20-100kHz
signal.
Try it on random dogs.
etc


NT
Thanks for the replies, should point out that this is not the type you point
at dog and press a button, it's on a bracket attached to kennel and dog
barking should trigger it. It was bought at B&M but I didn't keep receipt.
Did consider a mic attached to laptop but thought ultrasonic would be
outside the mic's range. Used to have a scope when I fixed TV's but gave it
away.
It's for my own dog because neighbours are complaining, I used this:
http://store.intl.petsafe.net/en-gb/anti-bark-spray-collar-basic-spray-bark-control?gclid=CLTY2PSL9dMCFQmdGwodVvEPKQ
for a while and it seemed to work but now the fluid/gas seems to leak away.

 

I have a Cornell Raven program.

Raven will display above 22000 cps visuals. There may be a trial offer.

Gareth is correct for equipment not designed for suppressing the mechanism noise producing the above 22000 motion.

There is an inbetween where a substitute noise broadcasts the mechanism's activation .... as a jet plan roar or a 57 Chevy with glass packs ...something not immediately noticed as unusual.

devices are sold to deter rats. The rats then move to the Bahamas

 

[pfjw@aol.com]

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 3:01:57 PM UTC-4, Kenny wrote:

> for a while and it seemed to work but now the fluid/gas seems to leak away.

Get a refill?

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

p.s.:

Dogs bark in many cases to say "HERE I AM!". Which means they are lonely. A dog that is not lonely will not bark except for a reason. And, as it happens, one typically wants the dog to park *when* there is a reason.

No-Bark collars stop all barking, good or bad.

If you have an older dog that is going deaf, and is left outside for any length of time, it *will* bark. It is called self-stimulus. Again, lonely dogs bark.

Generally, dogs are a commitment that takes time and consideration, especially as they get older. Our retrievers have lasted 14, 13 and the incumbent is 7 years old. We have a Scottie who is 8, but smaller dogs tend to last longer. And we have two cats, 7 & 4 who might well last 20+ years. In any case, the animals all take considerable comfort from each other.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

 

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 2:59:37 PM UTC-4, Foxs Mercantile wrote:

Man's best friend is any of the other animals I mentioned. Man's biggest
nuisance is a dog.

More proof you're a worthless individual.

LOL! I don't know if that proves his worthlessness or not but I always told my two sons to 1) find someone like your mother and 2) make sure she's a dog lover. I know it's generalizing, but my careful observations of many years have convinced me that women who love dogs tend to be more honest and moral. Cats are OK but if a woman has more than two, avoid her like the clap or she will make your life *miserable*.