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We Hate Spam, Congress Says (Except When It’s Sent by Us)

N.Y. Times

December 28, 2003
By JENNIFER 8. LEE

WASHINGTON, Dec. 27 - Even as Congress was unanimously
approving a law aimed at reducing the flow of junk e-mail,
members were sending out hundreds of thousands of
unsolicited messages to constituents.

The spasm of activity is aimed at attracting voluntary
subscribers to the lawmakers' e-mail lists, which would not
be subject to House rules that normally impose a 90-day
blackout before an election for taxpayer-supported
Congressional mass communications.

In September, the House Administration Committee voted, 5
to 3, along party lines to allow e-mail messages to the
subscribers to be sent in the blackout period, but
maintained the ban on free postal mail from House members
to voters. The policy change affected only House rules and
was not part of the junk e-mail legislation.

At least 40 House members have bought or agreed to buy
e-mail address lists from at least four vendors. The lists,
which each have tens of thousands of addresses, are
generally created by a process called e-mail appending,
taking voter registration files from a member's district.
The next step is to cross match them with large databases
of names and e-mail addresses assembled by consumer data
companies like Equifax, which has a database of more than
75 million e-mail addresses. E-mail addresses can usually
be found for 10 percent to 20 percent of the voter file.

Many members of Congress praise the new policy for allowing
cheaper and more effective communications with
constituents. But consumer advocacy groups say the policy
may unfairly give an advantage to incumbents over
challengers because it allows elected officials to use
government resources to communicate with voters right up to
Election Day. In addition, the consumer advocates say,
sending bulk e-mail messages to constituents who have not
agreed to receive it is essentially electronic junk mail,
or spam.

The ability to communicate with constituents at taxpayer
expense, the franking privilege, is one of the most
cherished and controversial perks of office. For 30 years,
advocacy groups have lobbied and sued Congress to try to
close loopholes and stop abuses of the privilege.

Critics say the policy has created a significant new
loophole.

"The core value is that you don't want to leverage
technology to increase incumbent advantage," said Celia
Viggo Wexler, research director at Common Cause, a group
that has sued to limit franking. "What is troubling is that
essentially the House is saying, `O.K., you can communicate
with the constituency up to an election, and we're not
really going to check what you are saying with them.' The
point is without that kind of oversight, it's ripe for
abuse."

Before the change, e-mail was subject to the same treatment
as regular postal mail. Correspondence sent to more than
500 constituents had to obtain approval from the franking
commission and was subject to a 90-day blackout before an
election. But individual responses to citizens were not
subject to the restrictions.

Congressional officials said the old policy was too
cumbersome.

"Anything over 500 e-mails you had to submit that to the
franking commission," said Brian Walsh, the Republican
spokesman for the House Administration Committee. "There
was going to be a delay of a couple of days to get
approved. We didn't feel that was consistent with the
technology that existed."

The new policy says that lawmakers can freely send messages
to voters who have agreed to subscribe to their e-mail
lists. To build such lists, House members are sending huge
amounts of bulk e-mail messages to their districts in the
hope that some voters will subscribe.

The unsolicited messages go out from Congressional offices
as often as twice a month. The unsolicited messages, which
have to stop 90 days before an election or a primary, are
still subject to approval from the franking commission.

"They are regulating commercial spam, and at the same time
they are using the franking privilege to send unsolicited
bulk communications which aren't commercial," David Sorkin,
a professor at the John Marshall Law School in Chicago,
said. "When we are talking about constituents who haven't
opted in, it's spam."

President Bush signed the law on spam on Dec. 16, and it
takes effect on Thursday. It will ban the sending of bulk
commercial e-mail using false information like fake names,
as well as misleading subject lines and automated
harvesting of e-mail messages. It will also require all
commercial e-mail messages to include a valid postal
address and give recipients an opportunity to opt out of
receiving more messages.

The law restricts only commercial e-mail, a sector that
accounts for more than half of all e-mail traffic. The law
does not apply to unsolicited political messages. It also
authorizes the Federal Trade Commission to study the
possibility of a "do not spam" list.

Violators of the law will be liable for a fine up to $250
per violation, up to a cap of $2 million, except in extreme
circumstances, when the fine could be tripled. Violators
could also face up to five years in prison.

Members of the House say their unsolicited e-mail messages
are not junk e-mailings, because the messages are directly
intended for constituents who have the right to opt out,
and the messages have received positive reactions.

"Our experience has been that we get hundreds and hundreds
of people who opt in for every person who opts out," said
Representative Brad Sherman, a California Democrat who has
bought a list. "E-mail has been a great communications
device."

From a technology perspective, commercial and political
bulk e-mail look startlingly similar.

Advocacy Inc., a consultant in Washington, had its first
unsolicited bulk e-mail, sent on behalf of Representative
Pete Stark, Democrat of California, initially blocked by
America Online's spam filters. AOL later agreed not to
block the messages, Advocacy said.

The new policy is fueling an e-mail arms race. Democrats
say that the new policy, which was drawn up by the
Republicans who control the House, took them somewhat by
surprise, but they are catching up.

"The Democrats are worried," said Roger A. Stone, the chief
executive of Advocacy, who has been signing up Democratic
offices at the rate of about five a week. "I'm dealing with
people whose boss said, `Get me some of that Internet.' "
 
An Unrepentant Spammer Vows to Carry On, Within the Law

December 30, 2003
By SAUL HANSELL

New York Times

Alan Ralsky, according to experts in the field, has long
been one of the most prolific senders of junk e-mail
messages in the world. But he has not sent a single message
over the Internet in the last few weeks.

He stopped sending e-mail offers for everything from debt
repayment schemes to time-share vacations even before
President Bush, on Dec. 16, signed the new Can Spam Act, a
law meant to crack down on marketers like Mr. Ralsky.

He plans to resume in January, he said, after he overcomes
some computer problems, and only after he changes his
practices to include in his messages a return address and
other information required by the law, the title of which
stands for Controlling the Assault of Non-Solicited
Pornography and Marketing.

That is quite a switch for Mr. Ralsky, who has earned a
reputation as a master of cyberdisguise. By his own
admission, he once produced more than 70 million messages a
day from domains registered with fake names, largely by way
of foreign countries - or sometimes even by way of hijacked
computers - so that the recipients could not trace the mail
back to him.

Most experts in junk e-mail, known as spam, have dismissed
the new federal law as largely ineffectual. And many
high-volume e-mailers say the law may even improve the
situation for them because it wipes away a handful of
tougher state laws.

But Mr. Ralsky, who lives in a Detroit suburb, says the
law's potential penalties - fines of up to $6 million and
up to five years in jail - are making him rethink his
business.

"Of course I'm worried about it," he said after the law was
signed. "You would have to be stupid to try to violate this
law."

No one is saying that e-mail in-boxes will be clean of spam
any time soon. But the world is getting to be a much more
hostile place for spammers, particularly those who send
some of the most offensive messages. The biggest threat is
not so much the new law, though it is expected to play a
role in stepped-up enforcement, as the increased
willingness of prosecutors to go after spammers.

In recent weeks, federal and state authorities have finally
gotten the attention of spammers with a series of tough
civil and criminal actions.

"These suits sent a shock wave through the spam world,"
said Steve Linford, the director of the Spamhaus Project,
an organization that tracks bulk e-mailers and tries to
thwart their moves. "Lots of spammers are asking, 'Are we
next?' "

Some bulk e-mailers, like Scott Richter, who was a
principal target of a civil suit filed last week by the New
York attorney general, Eliot Spitzer, vow to continue. But
Mr. Richter has lost some major clients, including
mainstream companies like Omaha Steaks.

Still, in the week after the suit was filed, Mr. Richter's
company, OptInRealBig.com, was actively sending e-mail
messages promoting dozens of products, including laser
guns, breast enlargement pills and Christian dating
services.

Others say they have been beaten down by blacklists created
by antispammers and filtering systems run by Internet
service providers.

"E-mail is not working any more," said Brendan Battles, a
longtime marketer who has sold CD-ROM's containing long
lists of e-mail addresses. "More people are mailing and you
get less and less response." Mr. Battles says he has
virtually given up the business.

"E-mail marketing is a good thing," Mr. Battles said. "I
create jobs. But the media has made e-mail out to be some
sort of terrorist plot."

Not long ago, Mr. Ralsky, like many other bulk e-mailers,
had high hopes that the new federal law would help
legitimize his operation. Just after Thanksgiving, he sat
on a cream-colored couch in the basement of his large home
in Bloomfield Hills, Mich., an affluent suburb of Detroit,
talking of how he expected the new law to make his business
easier. He would identify himself, as required, and would
honor any requests to be removed from his mailing lists, he
said. He said that he was counting on Internet providers,
in return, to stop trying to block his messages.

But more recently, Mr. Ralsky said in a follow-up interview
by telephone, he has come to the conclusion that the law is
more one-sided than he originally thought. Internet
providers, he figures, will be able to tag and discard his
mail with more certainty.

"The law was not written for a commercial e-mailer," he
said. "I don't think what they are doing is fair." He
suggested that the law was largely a plot by the big
companies that connect homes and businesses to the Internet
to keep all the profits from online marketing for
themselves.

"I have never once been ashamed of what I do," he said. "I
feel this is a business that has afforded me and my
customers a better way of life."

At the age of 58, Alan Ralsky seems an incongruous
character in an industry largely made up of men from the
Nintendo generation.

"I am the oldest spammer you know of," Mr. Ralsky said.
"You have a bunch of kids in their late 20's doing this
with a lot more technical knowledge than I have. But they
don't have any business sense."

Mr. Ralsky started delivering newspapers in his native
Skokie, Ill., at the age of 7 and has been working ever
since. Both his parents are deaf.

"It was a wonderful thing that I had deaf parents," he
said. "I was proud of them and tried to be as helpful as I
could, but you do grow up fast."

After a stint in the Army, Mr. Ralsky had a career as an
insurance agent and sales manager. Then things began to go
awry. In 1992, he served 50 days in jail on a charge
related to failing to deliver documents to a group of
investors. Two years later he was convicted of falsifying
documents that defrauded banks and was ordered to pay
$74,000 in restitution.

"I was in a bad business with bad partners," he said.

In 1995, he discovered e-mail messaging.

"I took my last thousand bucks and I bought a thousand
dollars worth of spam," Mr. Ralsky recalls. From the e-mail
messages he was able to send for that amount of money, he
said, "I got nothing, but I said, 'You know what, there is
something to this. It can take a small guy and make him the
equal of a Fortune 500 company.' "

His first real customer was in the business of selling
remote backup systems for computers. The fee was $1,000 to
send a million e-mail messages. He found 400 customers for
his client. Soon Mr. Ralsky hooked up with a time-share
promoter, sending out offers of three-day, two-night
Florida vacations.

"From there it just got bigger and bigger and better," Mr.
Ralsky said. Travel clubs and time-share offers are a
staple of his business, as are debt consolidation services
and e-books on how to win government grants. He says he
does not deal in pills or pornography.

Mr. Ralsky's mailing list now exceeds 150 million names.
Unlike many high-volume mailers, Mr. Ralsky does not claim
to send only to people who ask to receive marketing
pitches. He says he sees nothing wrong with sending
unsolicited mail. He insists, though, that he has always
honored requests for removal from his list, something now
required by the new law.

"If someone is mad, all they need to do is unsubscribe," he
said. "If you don't want to get it, I don't want to send it
to you."

This claim is impossible to verify, because nothing in Mr.
Ralsky's e-mail messages indicates that they are from him.
Anyone who unsubscribed from one of his mailings had no way
to know if he stopped sending messages or doubled his
mailings to them, as some spammers do.

That will change if he identifies himself, as he says he
will to comply with the new law.

As Mr. Ralsky's business has grown, so has the backlash.
Antispam organizations, like Spamhaus and the Spam
Protection Early Warning System, work diligently to
identify the addresses from which Mr. Ralsky is sending
e-mail messages and to urge Internet providers to evict him
from their networks.

And in 2001, Verizon Online, a unit of Verizon
Communications, sued Mr. Ralsky, claiming he violated its
policies by sending spam messages by the millions to its
Internet customers. Last year, Mr. Ralsky settled the suit,
paying an unspecified amount of damages and agreeing not to
send mail to Verizon Internet customers again.

Mr. Ralsky then redoubled his efforts to use fake names and
other techniques so his e-mail could not be easily traced.

"I have changed the way we mail totally," he said. The
spam fighters, he added, "have no idea what I'm mailing.
They could never pinpoint it and say this is from Al
Ralsky."

Mr. Ralsky said that he was uncomfortable about this
deception, but that he had no choice. "Is putting bogus
information in your registrations the right way to do
business?" he asked. "No. But the Internet world has forced
me to do that."

He has done business in two dozen countries, and has never
visited any of them. He buys mailing lists from people in
Sweden and India. And these days, he says, he sends his
mail from computers in China and three other countries.

"I have been hosted in strange places in the world," he
said. "For some reason the I.S.P.'s out of this country are
a lot more liberal."

But, he acknowledges, they are not necessarily more
reliable.

"You get good and bad in this business, and I have had all
sorts of people try to rip me off," he said.

Mr. Ralsky also acknowledged that he had used "open
proxies"- computers with improperly configured software
that allow spammers to relay messages without the knowledge
of the computer owner.

"I personally hate mailing with proxies," he said. "It's
rough. But you do what you got to do."

Even before the new law was passed and the prosecutors
stepped up their actions, Mr. Ralsky said the business was
getting harder. It was taking more mail to get the same
response. His target is to earn $500 in profit for every
million e-mail messages sent; his commission is often 40
percent of the price of each product sold.

And the cost of his carefully arranged international
network is going up, even more so now.

"The Chinese have decided that they will follow the law,"
he said. "We will have to put in our address and a real
'unsubscribe' list,'' at an added cost, he said, of $3,000
a month.

For all the obstacles, Mr. Ralsky said that he did not
intend to stop sending bulk e-mail in some form.

"There is too much money involved," he said. "I'm a
survivor. And when you are a survivor, you find a way to
make it happen."
 
In article <vv2sssovf0dc30@corp.supernews.com>, no.spam@no.spam.us
mentioned...

Wow, you beat me to it! I was gonna post the same article, but from
the IHT (see URL and article at the bottom of this article).

When a top spammer says that a law is 'unfair' then you know that this
law isn't as toothless as those hardcore absolutist naysayers make it
out to be.

You have **NO** idea how much schadenfreude this brings to my mind!
Well, how does the rest of the world feel about spam? The clueless
twit (ex-convict) has probably never considered that the rest of the
world has considered spam 'unfair' too!

What I would *love* to see:
Spammer is strapped into a high-backed chair, so that his whole body
is immobilized, just like an electric chair. The only thing he can
see is the monitor ahead with the spams popping up on it. Electrodes
are connected to his nuts, and run off to a relay that briefly applies
120VAC (230 in other parts of the world!!) whenever the chime sound is
heard when a new email arrives in his inbox. Don't worry, this email
acct was never advertised or given out, the spammers got the addr with
brute force or dictionary attacks and the only email coming is is
spam. New spam, and BZZZT!!! YiiEEEE! Fried spammer!


An Unrepentant Spammer Vows to Carry On, Within the Law

December 30, 2003
By SAUL HANSELL

New York Times

Alan Ralsky, according to experts in the field, has long
been one of the most prolific senders of junk e-mail
messages in the world. But he has not sent a single message
over the Internet in the last few weeks.

He stopped sending e-mail offers for everything from debt
repayment schemes to time-share vacations even before
President Bush, on Dec. 16, signed the new Can Spam Act, a
law meant to crack down on marketers like Mr. Ralsky.

He plans to resume in January, he said, after he overcomes
some computer problems, and only after he changes his
practices to include in his messages a return address and
other information required by the law, the title of which
stands for Controlling the Assault of Non-Solicited
Pornography and Marketing.

That is quite a switch for Mr. Ralsky, who has earned a
reputation as a master of cyberdisguise. By his own
admission, he once produced more than 70 million messages a
day from domains registered with fake names, largely by way
of foreign countries - or sometimes even by way of hijacked
computers - so that the recipients could not trace the mail
back to him.

Most experts in junk e-mail, known as spam, have dismissed
the new federal law as largely ineffectual. And many
high-volume e-mailers say the law may even improve the
situation for them because it wipes away a handful of
tougher state laws.

But Mr. Ralsky, who lives in a Detroit suburb, says the
law's potential penalties - fines of up to $6 million and
up to five years in jail - are making him rethink his
business.

"Of course I'm worried about it," he said after the law was
signed. "You would have to be stupid to try to violate this
law."

No one is saying that e-mail in-boxes will be clean of spam
any time soon. But the world is getting to be a much more
hostile place for spammers, particularly those who send
some of the most offensive messages. The biggest threat is
not so much the new law, though it is expected to play a
role in stepped-up enforcement, as the increased
willingness of prosecutors to go after spammers.

In recent weeks, federal and state authorities have finally
gotten the attention of spammers with a series of tough
civil and criminal actions.

"These suits sent a shock wave through the spam world,"
said Steve Linford, the director of the Spamhaus Project,
an organization that tracks bulk e-mailers and tries to
thwart their moves. "Lots of spammers are asking, 'Are we
next?' "

Some bulk e-mailers, like Scott Richter, who was a
principal target of a civil suit filed last week by the New
York attorney general, Eliot Spitzer, vow to continue. But
Mr. Richter has lost some major clients, including
mainstream companies like Omaha Steaks.

Still, in the week after the suit was filed, Mr. Richter's
company, OptInRealBig.com, was actively sending e-mail
messages promoting dozens of products, including laser
guns, breast enlargement pills and Christian dating
services.

Others say they have been beaten down by blacklists created
by antispammers and filtering systems run by Internet
service providers.

"E-mail is not working any more," said Brendan Battles, a
longtime marketer who has sold CD-ROM's containing long
lists of e-mail addresses. "More people are mailing and you
get less and less response." Mr. Battles says he has
virtually given up the business.

"E-mail marketing is a good thing," Mr. Battles said. "I
create jobs. But the media has made e-mail out to be some
sort of terrorist plot."

Not long ago, Mr. Ralsky, like many other bulk e-mailers,
had high hopes that the new federal law would help
legitimize his operation. Just after Thanksgiving, he sat
on a cream-colored couch in the basement of his large home
in Bloomfield Hills, Mich., an affluent suburb of Detroit,
talking of how he expected the new law to make his business
easier. He would identify himself, as required, and would
honor any requests to be removed from his mailing lists, he
said. He said that he was counting on Internet providers,
in return, to stop trying to block his messages.

But more recently, Mr. Ralsky said in a follow-up interview
by telephone, he has come to the conclusion that the law is
more one-sided than he originally thought. Internet
providers, he figures, will be able to tag and discard his
mail with more certainty.

"The law was not written for a commercial e-mailer," he
said. "I don't think what they are doing is fair." He
suggested that the law was largely a plot by the big
companies that connect homes and businesses to the Internet
to keep all the profits from online marketing for
themselves.

"I have never once been ashamed of what I do," he said. "I
feel this is a business that has afforded me and my
customers a better way of life."

At the age of 58, Alan Ralsky seems an incongruous
character in an industry largely made up of men from the
Nintendo generation.

"I am the oldest spammer you know of," Mr. Ralsky said.
"You have a bunch of kids in their late 20's doing this
with a lot more technical knowledge than I have. But they
don't have any business sense."

Mr. Ralsky started delivering newspapers in his native
Skokie, Ill., at the age of 7 and has been working ever
since. Both his parents are deaf.

"It was a wonderful thing that I had deaf parents," he
said. "I was proud of them and tried to be as helpful as I
could, but you do grow up fast."

After a stint in the Army, Mr. Ralsky had a career as an
insurance agent and sales manager. Then things began to go
awry. In 1992, he served 50 days in jail on a charge
related to failing to deliver documents to a group of
investors. Two years later he was convicted of falsifying
documents that defrauded banks and was ordered to pay
$74,000 in restitution.

"I was in a bad business with bad partners," he said.

In 1995, he discovered e-mail messaging.

"I took my last thousand bucks and I bought a thousand
dollars worth of spam," Mr. Ralsky recalls. From the e-mail
messages he was able to send for that amount of money, he
said, "I got nothing, but I said, 'You know what, there is
something to this. It can take a small guy and make him the
equal of a Fortune 500 company.' "

His first real customer was in the business of selling
remote backup systems for computers. The fee was $1,000 to
send a million e-mail messages. He found 400 customers for
his client. Soon Mr. Ralsky hooked up with a time-share
promoter, sending out offers of three-day, two-night
Florida vacations.

"From there it just got bigger and bigger and better," Mr.
Ralsky said. Travel clubs and time-share offers are a
staple of his business, as are debt consolidation services
and e-books on how to win government grants. He says he
does not deal in pills or pornography.

Mr. Ralsky's mailing list now exceeds 150 million names.
Unlike many high-volume mailers, Mr. Ralsky does not claim
to send only to people who ask to receive marketing
pitches. He says he sees nothing wrong with sending
unsolicited mail. He insists, though, that he has always
honored requests for removal from his list, something now
required by the new law.

"If someone is mad, all they need to do is unsubscribe," he
said. "If you don't want to get it, I don't want to send it
to you."

This claim is impossible to verify, because nothing in Mr.
Ralsky's e-mail messages indicates that they are from him.
Anyone who unsubscribed from one of his mailings had no way
toknow if he stopped sending messages or doubled his
mailings to them, as some spammers do.

That will change if he identifies himself, as he says he
will to comply with the new law.

As Mr. Ralsky's business has grown, so has the backlash.
Antispam organizations, like Spamhaus and the Spam
Protection Early Warning System, work diligently to
identify the addresses from which Mr. Ralsky is sending
e-mail messages and to urge Internet providers to evict him
from their networks.

And in 2001, Verizon Online, a unit of Verizon
Communications, sued Mr. Ralsky, claiming he violated its
policies by sending spam messages by the millions to its
Internet customers. Last year, Mr. Ralsky settled the suit,
paying an unspecified amount of damages and agreeing not to
send mail to Verizon Internet customers again.

Mr. Ralsky then redoubled his efforts to use fake names and
other techniques so his e-mail could not be easily traced.

"I have changed the way we mail totally," he said. The
spam fighters, he added, "have no idea what I'm mailing.
They could never pinpoint it and say this is from Al
Ralsky."

Mr. Ralsky said that he was uncomfortable about this
deception, but that he had no choice. "Is putting bogus
information in your registrations the right way to do
business?" he asked. "No. But the Internet world has forced
me to do that."

He has done business in two dozen countries, and has never
visited any of them. He buys mailing lists from people in
Sweden and India. And these days, he says, he sends his
mail from computers in China and three other countries.

"I have been hosted in strange places in the world," he
said. "For some reason the I.S.P.'s out of this country are
a lot more liberal."

But, he acknowledges, they are not necessarily more
reliable.

"You get good and bad in this business, and I have had all
sorts of people try to rip me off," he said.

Mr. Ralsky also acknowledged that he had used "open
proxies"- computers with improperly configured software
that allow spammers to relay messages without the knowledge
of the computer owner.

"I personally hate mailing with proxies," he said. "It's
rough. But you do what you got to do."

Even before the new law was passed and the prosecutors
stepped up their actions, Mr. Ralsky said the business was
getting harder. It was taking more mail to get the same
response. His target is to earn $500 in profit for every
million e-mail messages sent; his commission is often 40
percent of the price of each product sold.

And the cost of his carefully arranged international
network is going up, even more so now.
http://www.iht.com/articles/123183.html

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A spammer is slowed but not defeated
Saul Hansell NYT
Tuesday, December 30, 2003

Alan Ralsky has long been, according to experts in the field, one of
the most prolific senders of junk e-mail in the world. But he has not
sent a single message over the Internet in the past few weeks.

He stopped spewing e-mail offers for everything from debt repayment
schemes to time-share vacations even before President George W. Bush,
on Dec. 16, signed the new CAN SPAM legislation meant to crack down on
marketers like Ralsky. He plans to resume in January, he said, once he
has overcome some computer problems, but only after he changes his
practices to include his return address in the messages and other
information required by the law.

That is quite a switch for Ralsky, who has earned a reputation as a
master of cyberdisguise. By his own admission, he once produced more
than 70 million messages a day, from domains registered with fake
names - all so that the recipients could not ever trace the mail back
to him.

Most experts in junk e-mail, universally known as spam, have dismissed
the new U.S. law as largely ineffectual. And many high-volume e-
mailers say the law may even improve the situation for them because
one of its chief effects is to wipe away a handful of tougher state
laws.

But to Ralsky, who lives in a Detroit suburb, the prospect of facing
the law's penalties of up to $6 million and a potential five years in
jail is making him rethink his business. "Of course I'm worried about
it," he said after the law was signed. "You would have to be stupid to
try to violate this law."

No one is saying that e-mail in-boxes will be clean of spam any time
soon. But the world is getting to be a much more hostile place for
spammers, particularly those who send some of the most offensive
messages. The biggest threat is not so much the new law, though it is
expected to play a role in stepped up enforcement, as the increased
willingness of prosecutors to go after spammers.

In recent weeks, U.S. authorities have taken a series of tough civil
and criminal actions against prominent spammers that have finally
gotten their attention. "These suits sent a shock wave through the
spam world," said Steve Linford, the director of the Spamhaus Project,
an organization that tracks bulk e-mailers and tries to thwart their
moves. "Lots of spammers are asking, 'Are we next?'"

Not long ago, Ralsky, like many other bulk e-mailers, had high hopes
that the new U.S. law would help legitimize his operation. Just after
Thanksgiving, he said he expected the new law to make his business
easier. He would identify himself as required and honor any requests
by people to be removed from his mailing lists, he said. In return, he
said that he was counting on Internet providers to stop trying to
block his messages.

But more recently, he said he came to the conclusion that the law was
more one-sided than he originally thought.

"The law was not written for a commercial e-mailer," he said. "I don't
think what they are doing is fair." He suggested that the law is
largely a plot by the big companies that connect homes and businesses
to the Internet to keep all the profit from online marketing for
themselves.

Travel clubs and time-share offers are a staple of his business, as
are debt consolidation services and e-books on how to win government
grants. He says he does not deal in pills or pornography.

Ralsky's mailing list now exceeds 150 million names. Unlike many high-
volume mailers, Ralsky does not claim to send only to people who ask
to receive marketing pitches. He sees nothing wrong with sending
unsolicited mail. He insists, though, that he has always honored
requests by people to be removed from his list, something now required
by the new law. As Ralsky's business has grown, so has the backlash.
Spam-fighting organizations, like Spamhaus and the Spam Protection
Early Warning System, work diligently to try to identify the addresses
from which Ralsky is sending e-mail and put pressure on Internet
providers to evict him from their networks.

And in 2001, Verizon Communications sued Ralsky, claiming he violated
its policies by sending spam by the millions to its Internet
customers. Last year, Ralsky settled the suit, paying an unspecified
amount of damages and agreeing not to send mail to Verizon Internet
customers again.

Ralsky responded by redoubling his efforts to use fake names and other
techniques so his e-mail cannot be easily traced.

"I have changed the way we mail totally," he said. The spam fighters,
he said, "have no idea what I'm mailing. They could never pinpoint it
and say this is from Al Ralsky.

"Is putting bogus information in your registrations the right way to
do business?" he asked. "No. But the Internet world has forced me to
do that."

Even before the new law was passed and the prosecutors stepped up
their actions, Ralsky said the business was getting harder. It was
taking more mail to get the same response. (His target is to earn $500
in profit for every 1 million e-mails sent. His commission is often 40
percent of the price of each product sold.) And the cost of his
carefully arranged international network is going up, even more so
now.

For all the obstacles, though, Ralsky said that he does not intend to
stop sending bulk e-mail in some form.

"There is too much money involved," he said. "I'm a survivor. And when
you are a survivor, you find a way to make it happen."

The New York Times

Copyright Š 2002 The International Herald Tribune


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Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, Dark Remover" <alondra101@hotmail.com>
wrote:

In article <vv2sssovf0dc30@corp.supernews.com>, no.spam@no.spam.us
mentioned...

Wow, you beat me to it! I was gonna post the same article, but from
the IHT (see URL and article at the bottom of this article).

When a top spammer says that a law is 'unfair' then you know that this
law isn't as toothless as those hardcore absolutist naysayers make it
out to be.

You have **NO** idea how much schadenfreude this brings to my mind!
Well, how does the rest of the world feel about spam? The clueless
twit (ex-convict) has probably never considered that the rest of the
world has considered spam 'unfair' too!

What I would *love* to see:
Spammer is strapped into a high-backed chair, so that his whole body
is immobilized, just like an electric chair. The only thing he can
see is the monitor ahead with the spams popping up on it. Electrodes
are connected to his nuts, and run off to a relay that briefly applies
120VAC (230 in other parts of the world!!) whenever the chime sound is
heard when a new email arrives in his inbox. Don't worry, this email
acct was never advertised or given out, the spammers got the addr with
brute force or dictionary attacks and the only email coming is is
spam. New spam, and BZZZT!!! YiiEEEE! Fried spammer!

Still too good for those greedy sleazy low-life scamming mongrels,
but it would be better than nothing at all! :)

Bob
 
"Watson A.Name - Watt Sun, Dark Remover" <alondra101@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:MPG.1a5b4072f412d4ad989ad6@news.dslextreme.com...
In article <vv2sssovf0dc30@corp.supernews.com>, no.spam@no.spam.us
mentioned...

Wow, you beat me to it! I was gonna post the same article, but from
the IHT (see URL and article at the bottom of this article).

When a top spammer says that a law is 'unfair' then you know that this
law isn't as toothless as those hardcore absolutist naysayers make it
out to be.

You have **NO** idea how much schadenfreude this brings to my mind!
Well, how does the rest of the world feel about spam? The clueless
twit (ex-convict) has probably never considered that the rest of the
world has considered spam 'unfair' too!

What I would *love* to see:
Spammer is strapped into a high-backed chair, so that his whole body
is immobilized, just like an electric chair. The only thing he can
see is the monitor ahead with the spams popping up on it. Electrodes
are connected to his nuts, and run off to a relay that briefly applies
120VAC (230 in other parts of the world!!) whenever the chime sound is
heard when a new email arrives in his inbox. Don't worry, this email
acct was never advertised or given out, the spammers got the addr with
brute force or dictionary attacks and the only email coming is is
spam. New spam, and BZZZT!!! YiiEEEE! Fried spammer!


An Unrepentant Spammer Vows to Carry On, Within the Law

December 30, 2003
By SAUL HANSELL

New York Times

Alan Ralsky, according to experts in the field, has long
been one of the most prolific senders of junk e-mail
messages in the world. But he has not sent a single message
over the Internet in the last few weeks.

He stopped sending e-mail offers for everything from debt
repayment schemes to time-share vacations even before
President Bush, on Dec. 16, signed the new Can Spam Act, a
law meant to crack down on marketers like Mr. Ralsky.

He plans to resume in January, he said, after he overcomes
some computer problems, and only after he changes his
practices to include in his messages a return address and
other information required by the law, the title of which
stands for Controlling the Assault of Non-Solicited
Pornography and Marketing.

That is quite a switch for Mr. Ralsky, who has earned a
reputation as a master of cyberdisguise. By his own
admission, he once produced more than 70 million messages a
day from domains registered with fake names, largely by way
of foreign countries - or sometimes even by way of hijacked
computers - so that the recipients could not trace the mail
back to him.

Most experts in junk e-mail, known as spam, have dismissed
the new federal law as largely ineffectual. And many
high-volume e-mailers say the law may even improve the
situation for them because it wipes away a handful of
tougher state laws.

But Mr. Ralsky, who lives in a Detroit suburb, says the
law's potential penalties - fines of up to $6 million and
up to five years in jail - are making him rethink his
business.

"Of course I'm worried about it," he said after the law was
signed. "You would have to be stupid to try to violate this
law."

No one is saying that e-mail in-boxes will be clean of spam
any time soon. But the world is getting to be a much more
hostile place for spammers, particularly those who send
some of the most offensive messages. The biggest threat is
not so much the new law, though it is expected to play a
role in stepped-up enforcement, as the increased
willingness of prosecutors to go after spammers.

In recent weeks, federal and state authorities have finally
gotten the attention of spammers with a series of tough
civil and criminal actions.

"These suits sent a shock wave through the spam world,"
said Steve Linford, the director of the Spamhaus Project,
an organization that tracks bulk e-mailers and tries to
thwart their moves. "Lots of spammers are asking, 'Are we
next?' "

Some bulk e-mailers, like Scott Richter, who was a
principal target of a civil suit filed last week by the New
York attorney general, Eliot Spitzer, vow to continue. But
Mr. Richter has lost some major clients, including
mainstream companies like Omaha Steaks.

Still, in the week after the suit was filed, Mr. Richter's
company, OptInRealBig.com, was actively sending e-mail
messages promoting dozens of products, including laser
guns, breast enlargement pills and Christian dating
services.

Others say they have been beaten down by blacklists created
by antispammers and filtering systems run by Internet
service providers.

"E-mail is not working any more," said Brendan Battles, a
longtime marketer who has sold CD-ROM's containing long
lists of e-mail addresses. "More people are mailing and you
get less and less response." Mr. Battles says he has
virtually given up the business.

"E-mail marketing is a good thing," Mr. Battles said. "I
create jobs. But the media has made e-mail out to be some
sort of terrorist plot."

Not long ago, Mr. Ralsky, like many other bulk e-mailers,
had high hopes that the new federal law would help
legitimize his operation. Just after Thanksgiving, he sat
on a cream-colored couch in the basement of his large home
in Bloomfield Hills, Mich., an affluent suburb of Detroit,
talking of how he expected the new law to make his business
easier. He would identify himself, as required, and would
honor any requests to be removed from his mailing lists, he
said. He said that he was counting on Internet providers,
in return, to stop trying to block his messages.

But more recently, Mr. Ralsky said in a follow-up interview
by telephone, he has come to the conclusion that the law is
more one-sided than he originally thought. Internet
providers, he figures, will be able to tag and discard his
mail with more certainty.

"The law was not written for a commercial e-mailer," he
said. "I don't think what they are doing is fair." He
suggested that the law was largely a plot by the big
companies that connect homes and businesses to the Internet
to keep all the profits from online marketing for
themselves.

"I have never once been ashamed of what I do," he said. "I
feel this is a business that has afforded me and my
customers a better way of life."

At the age of 58, Alan Ralsky seems an incongruous
character in an industry largely made up of men from the
Nintendo generation.

"I am the oldest spammer you know of," Mr. Ralsky said.
"You have a bunch of kids in their late 20's doing this
with a lot more technical knowledge than I have. But they
don't have any business sense."

Mr. Ralsky started delivering newspapers in his native
Skokie, Ill., at the age of 7 and has been working ever
since. Both his parents are deaf.

"It was a wonderful thing that I had deaf parents," he
said. "I was proud of them and tried to be as helpful as I
could, but you do grow up fast."

After a stint in the Army, Mr. Ralsky had a career as an
insurance agent and sales manager. Then things began to go
awry. In 1992, he served 50 days in jail on a charge
related to failing to deliver documents to a group of
investors. Two years later he was convicted of falsifying
documents that defrauded banks and was ordered to pay
$74,000 in restitution.

"I was in a bad business with bad partners," he said.

In 1995, he discovered e-mail messaging.

"I took my last thousand bucks and I bought a thousand
dollars worth of spam," Mr. Ralsky recalls. From the e-mail
messages he was able to send for that amount of money, he
said, "I got nothing, but I said, 'You know what, there is
something to this. It can take a small guy and make him the
equal of a Fortune 500 company.' "

His first real customer was in the business of selling
remote backup systems for computers. The fee was $1,000 to
send a million e-mail messages. He found 400 customers for
his client. Soon Mr. Ralsky hooked up with a time-share
promoter, sending out offers of three-day, two-night
Florida vacations.

"From there it just got bigger and bigger and better," Mr.
Ralsky said. Travel clubs and time-share offers are a
staple of his business, as are debt consolidation services
and e-books on how to win government grants. He says he
does not deal in pills or pornography.

Mr. Ralsky's mailing list now exceeds 150 million names.
Unlike many high-volume mailers, Mr. Ralsky does not claim
to send only to people who ask to receive marketing
pitches. He says he sees nothing wrong with sending
unsolicited mail. He insists, though, that he has always
honored requests for removal from his list, something now
required by the new law.

"If someone is mad, all they need to do is unsubscribe," he
said. "If you don't want to get it, I don't want to send it
to you."

This claim is impossible to verify, because nothing in Mr.
Ralsky's e-mail messages indicates that they are from him.
Anyone who unsubscribed from oneof his mailings had no way
to know if he stopped sending messages or doubled his
mailings to them, as some spammers do.

That will change if he identifies himself, as he says he
will to comply with the new law.

As Mr. Ralsky's business has grown, so has the backlash.
Antispam organizations, like Spamhaus and the Spam
Protection Early Warning System, work diligently to
identify the addresses from which Mr. Ralsky is sending
e-mail messages and to urge Internet providers to evict him
from their networks.

And in 2001, Verizon Online, a unit of Verizon
Communications, sued Mr. Ralsky, claiming he violated its
policies by sending spam messages by the millions to its
Internet customers. Last year, Mr. Ralsky settled the suit,
paying an unspecified amount of damages and agreeing not to
send mail to Verizon Internet customers again.

Mr. Ralsky then redoubled his efforts to use fake names and
other techniques so his e-mail could not be easily traced.

"I have changed the way we mail totally," he said. The
spam fighters, he added, "have no idea what I'm mailing.
They could never pinpoint it and say this is from Al
Ralsky."

Mr. Ralsky said that he was uncomfortable about this
deception, but that he had no choice. "Is putting bogus
information in your registrations the right way to do
business?" he asked. "No. But the Internet world has forced
me to do that."

He has done business in two dozen countries, and has never
visited any of them. He buys mailing lists from people in
Sweden and India. And these days, he says, he sends his
mail from computers in China and three other countries.

"I have been hosted in strange places in the world," he
said. "For some reason the I.S.P.'s out of this country are
a lot more liberal."

But, he acknowledges, they are not necessarily more
reliable.

"You get good and bad in this business, and I have had all
sorts of people try to rip me off," he said.

Mr. Ralsky also acknowledged that he had used "open
proxies"- computers with improperly configured software
that allow spammers to relay messages without the knowledge
of the computer owner.

"I personally hate mailing with proxies," he said. "It's
rough. But you do what you got to do."

Even before the new law was passed and the prosecutors
stepped up their actions, Mr. Ralsky said the business was
getting harder. It was taking more mail to get the same
response. His target is to earn $500 in profit for every
million e-mail messages sent; his commission is often 40
percent of the price of each product sold.

And the cost of his carefully arranged international
network is going up, even more so now.

http://www.iht.com/articles/123183.html

Copyright Š 2002 The International Herald Tribune | www.iht.com

A spammer is slowed but not defeated
Saul Hansell NYT
Tuesday, December 30, 2003

Alan Ralsky has long been, according to experts in the field, one of
the most prolific senders of junk e-mail in the world. But he has not
sent a single message over the Internet in the past few weeks.

He stopped spewing e-mail offers for everything from debt repayment
schemes to time-share vacations even before President George W. Bush,
on Dec. 16, signed the new CAN SPAM legislation meant to crack down on
marketers like Ralsky. He plans to resume in January, he said, once he
has overcome some computer problems, but only after he changes his
practices to include his return address in the messages and other
information required by the law.

That is quite a switch for Ralsky, who has earned a reputation as a
master of cyberdisguise. By his own admission, he once produced more
than 70 million messages a day, from domains registered with fake
names - all so that the recipients could not ever trace the mail back
to him.

Most experts in junk e-mail, universally known as spam, have dismissed
the new U.S. law as largely ineffectual. And many high-volume e-
mailers say the law may even improve the situation for them because
one of its chief effects is to wipe away a handful of tougher state
laws.

But to Ralsky, who lives in a Detroit suburb, the prospect of facing
the law's penalties of up to $6 million and a potential five years in
jail is making him rethink his business. "Of course I'm worried about
it," he said after the law was signed. "You would have to be stupid to
try to violate this law."

No one is saying that e-mail in-boxes will be clean of spam any time
soon. But the world is getting to be a much more hostile place for
spammers, particularly those who send some of the most offensive
messages. The biggest threat is not so much the new law, though it is
expected to play a role in stepped up enforcement, as the increased
willingness of prosecutors to go after spammers.

In recent weeks, U.S. authorities have taken a series of tough civil
and criminal actions against prominent spammers that have finally
gotten their attention. "These suits sent a shock wave through the
spam world," said Steve Linford, the director of the Spamhaus Project,
an organization that tracks bulk e-mailers and tries to thwart their
moves. "Lots of spammers are asking, 'Are we next?'"

Not long ago, Ralsky, like many other bulk e-mailers, had high hopes
that the new U.S. law would help legitimize his operation. Just after
Thanksgiving, he said he expected the new law to make his business
easier. He would identify himself as required and honor any requests
by people to be removed from his mailing lists, he said. In return, he
said that he was counting on Internet providers to stop trying to
block his messages.

But more recently, he said he came to the conclusion that the law was
more one-sided than he originally thought.

"The law was not written for a commercial e-mailer," he said. "I don't
think what they are doing is fair." He suggested that the law is
largely a plot by the big companies that connect homes and businesses
to the Internet to keep all the profit from online marketing for
themselves.

Travel clubs and time-share offers are a staple of his business, as
are debt consolidation services and e-books on how to win government
grants. He says he does not deal in pills or pornography.

Ralsky's mailing list now exceeds 150 million names. Unlike many high-
volume mailers, Ralsky does not claim to send only to people who ask
to receive marketing pitches. He sees nothing wrong with sending
unsolicited mail. He insists, though, that he has always honored
requests by people to be removed from his list, something now required
by the new law. As Ralsky's business has grown, so has the backlash.
Spam-fighting organizations, like Spamhaus and the Spam Protection
Early Warning System, work diligently to try to identify the addresses
from which Ralsky is sending e-mail and put pressure on Internet
providers to evict him from their networks.

And in 2001, Verizon Communications sued Ralsky, claiming he violated
its policies by sending spam by the millions to its Internet
customers. Last year, Ralsky settled the suit, paying an unspecified
amount of damages and agreeing not to send mail to Verizon Internet
customers again.

Ralsky responded by redoubling his efforts to use fake names and other
techniques so his e-mail cannot be easily traced.

"I have changed the way we mail totally," he said. The spam fighters,
he said, "have no idea what I'm mailing. They could never pinpoint it
and say this is from Al Ralsky.

"Is putting bogus information in your registrations the right way to
do business?" he asked. "No. But the Internet world has forced me to
do that."

Even before the new law was passed and the prosecutors stepped up
their actions, Ralsky said the business was getting harder. It was
taking more mail to get the same response. (His target is to earn $500
in profit for every 1 million e-mails sent. His commission is often 40
percent of the price of each product sold.) And the cost of his
carefully arranged international network is going up, even more so
now.

For all the obstacles, though, Ralsky said that he does not intend to
stop sending bulk e-mail in some form.

"There is too much money involved," he said. "I'm a survivor. And when
you are a survivor, you find a way to make it happen."

The New York Times

Copyright Š 2002 The International Herald Tribune


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goes directly to the trash unless you add NOSPAM in the
Subject: line with other stuff. alondra101 <at> hotmail.com
Don't be ripped off by the big book dealers. Go to the URL
that will give you a choice and save you money(up to half).
http://www.everybookstore.com You'll be glad you did!
Just when you thought you had all this figured out, the gov't
changed it: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html
@@t@h@e@@a@f@f@l@u@e@n@t@@m@e@e@t@@t@h@e@@E@f@f@l@u@e@n@t@@
I like it, fry the spammers!....I guess I have finally had enough of them
telling me I need Viagra and a penis enlargement.....geez!...Ross
 
In article
<taHIb.263822$Ec1.9104091@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
"Ross Mac" <this.is.a.mung@example.invalid> wrote:

<400+ lines snipped to save space, bandwidth, and effort in finding the
new material>

I like it, fry the spammers!....I guess I have finally had enough of them
telling me I need Viagra and a penis enlargement.....geez!...Ross
Gorgeous, Ross... Simply gorgeous...
Quote 400+ lines to add a two-line version of "ME TOO!!!!"

I'll give you credit for at least not top-posting your drivel, but at
the same time, your neglect in trimming still earns you a good swift
kick in the pants.

And here it is:
LEARN TO USE YOUR FRIGGIN' NEWSREADER PROPERLY, YOU MINDLESS BOZO!

--
Don Bruder - dakidd@sonic.net <--- Preferred Email - SpamAssassinated.
Hate SPAM? See <http://www.spamassassin.org> for some seriously great info.
I will choose a path that's clear: I will choose Free Will! - N. Peart
Fly trap info pages: <http://www.sonic.net/~dakidd/Horses/FlyTrap/index.html>
 
"Don Bruder" <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:uHHIb.5586$XF6.128357@typhoon.sonic.net...
In article
taHIb.263822$Ec1.9104091@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
"Ross Mac" <this.is.a.mung@example.invalid> wrote:

400+ lines snipped to save space, bandwidth, and effort in finding the
new material

I like it, fry the spammers!....I guess I have finally had enough of
them
telling me I need Viagra and a penis enlargement.....geez!...Ross



Gorgeous, Ross... Simply gorgeous...
Quote 400+ lines to add a two-line version of "ME TOO!!!!"

I'll give you credit for at least not top-posting your drivel, but at
the same time, your neglect in trimming still earns you a good swift
kick in the pants.

And here it is:
LEARN TO USE YOUR FRIGGIN' NEWSREADER PROPERLY, YOU MINDLESS BOZO!

--
Don Bruder - dakidd@sonic.net <--- Preferred Email - SpamAssassinated.
Hate SPAM? See <http://www.spamassassin.org> for some seriously great
info.
I will choose a path that's clear: I will choose Free Will! - N. Peart
Fly trap info pages:
http://www.sonic.net/~dakidd/Horses/FlyTrap/index.html

Thanks Don, and a Happy New Year to you!
And hey, if you don't like my posts just plonk me. Then I too can enjoy your
lack of replies. Thanks again.....Ross
 
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,61928,00.html?tw=newsletter_topstories_html
 
"Baphomet" <no.spam@no.spam.us> wrote in message
news:100gbts5aplbv92@corp.supernews.com...
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,61928,00.html?tw=newsletter_topstories_html


I haven't noticed any decrease in spam since the law passed either. Perhaps
it's a bit early to tell. I liked that comment about the FTC making an
example out of a few of the spammers. Wouldn't it be nice to tune into the
news and see a few of them cuffed and squirming as they are hauled off to
the pokie? I guess when you lose your job as a used car salesman you take up
spamming for a living. At least that's my vision of their ilk!
 
In article <I0XNb.22942$VS4.695351@bgtnsc04-
news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, this.is.a.mung@example.invalid
mentioned...
"Baphomet" <no.spam@no.spam.us> wrote in message
news:100gbts5aplbv92@corp.supernews.com...

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,61928,00.html?tw=newsletter_topstories_html


I haven't noticed any decrease in spam since the law passed either. Perhaps
it's a bit early to tell. I liked that comment about the FTC making an
example out of a few of the spammers. Wouldn't it be nice to tune into the
news and see a few of them cuffed and squirming as they are hauled off to
the pokie? I guess when you lose your job as a used car salesman you take up
spamming for a living. At least that's my vision of their ilk!
Alan Ralsky: Convicted felon (insurance fraud)
http://j-walkblog.com/blog/index/P8823/

<<
Eddy Marin: convicted felon (drugs) English translation of the Spanish
In fact, the city named after the Spanish phrase "mouth of mice,"
meaning "mouth of the rat" is homemade to 40 of less than 200 más-
prolíficas operations of the Spam in the world. Rather known the
dispensadores of the Spam of Mouth is Eddie Marin, condemned
distributor of the cocaine, that brought dozen down others, including
a judge of the county of Broward, when it was nabbed in early years 90
more recently, he load with washing of the money. At the moment, it is
harvesting you compensate financiers of porn of the Internet and the
Spam

boca de la rata
De hecho, la ciudad nombrada después de la frase espańola "boca de
ratones," significado "boca de la rata" es casera a 40 de las menos de
200 operaciones ma's-proli'ficas del Spam en el mundo. El más bien
conocido de los dispensadores del Spam de Boca es Eddie Marin,
distribuidor condenado de la cocaína, que trajo abajo docena otros,
incluyendo un juez del condado de Broward, cuando él era nabbed en los
ańos 90 tempranos más recientemente, él se carga con lavar planchar
del dinero. Actualmente, él está cosechando recompensas financieras
del porn del Internet y del Spam
Thomas Cowles: Convicted felon (theft)
http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/listing.lasso?-
op=cn&spammer=Thomas%20Cowles%20-%20Empire%20Towers
Click on one of the articles with his name.

Scott Richter: being civally prosecuted - in deep doo-doo.
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2003/dec03/12-
18NYSAGandMicrosoftPR.asp

Like, when you've already been in jail, what's another year or three?

We _really_ need a couple spammers thrown in jail for awhile. That
would send a jolt thru the spammer community that "_I_ could be next"!


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###Got a Question about ELECTRONICS? Check HERE First:###
http://users.pandora.be/educypedia/electronics/databank.htm
My email address is whitelisted. *All* email sent to it
goes directly to the trash unless you add NOSPAM in the
Subject: line with other stuff. alondra101 <at> hotmail.com
Don't be ripped off by the big book dealers. Go to the URL
that will give you a choice and save you money(up to half).
http://www.everybookstore.com You'll be glad you did!
Just when you thought you had all this figured out, the gov't
changed it: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html
@@t@h@e@@a@f@f@l@u@e@n@t@@m@e@e@t@@t@h@e@@E@f@f@l@u@e@n@t@@
 
"Watson A.Name - Watt Sun, Dark Remover" <alondra101@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:MPG.1a726a8893e05df989b44@news.dslextreme.com...
In article <I0XNb.22942$VS4.695351@bgtnsc04-
news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, this.is.a.mung@example.invalid
mentioned...

"Baphomet" <no.spam@no.spam.us> wrote in message
news:100gbts5aplbv92@corp.supernews.com...


http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,61928,00.html?tw=newsletter_topstories_html


I haven't noticed any decrease in spam since the law passed either.
Perhaps
it's a bit early to tell. I liked that comment about the FTC making an
example out of a few of the spammers. Wouldn't it be nice to tune into
the
news and see a few of them cuffed and squirming as they are hauled off
to
the pokie? I guess when you lose your job as a used car salesman you
take up
spamming for a living. At least that's my vision of their ilk!

Alan Ralsky: Convicted felon (insurance fraud)
http://j-walkblog.com/blog/index/P8823/
I guess my vision of the typical spammer wasn't too far off...a convicted
felon!
Thanks for the interesting link Watson......Ross
 
In article <E7dOb.25943$VS4.801688@bgtnsc04-
news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, this.is.a.mung@example.invalid
mentioned...
"Watson A.Name - Watt Sun, Dark Remover" <alondra101@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:MPG.1a726a8893e05df989b44@news.dslextreme.com...
In article <I0XNb.22942$VS4.695351@bgtnsc04-
news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, this.is.a.mung@example.invalid
mentioned...

"Baphomet" <no.spam@no.spam.us> wrote in message
news:100gbts5aplbv92@corp.supernews.com...


http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,61928,00.html?tw=newsletter_topstories_html


I haven't noticed any decrease in spam since the law passed either.
Perhaps
it's a bit early to tell. I liked that comment about the FTC making an
example out of a few of the spammers. Wouldn't it be nice to tune into
the
news and see a few of them cuffed and squirming as they are hauled off
to
the pokie? I guess when you lose your job as a used car salesman you
take up
spamming for a living. At least that's my vision of their ilk!

Alan Ralsky: Convicted felon (insurance fraud)
http://j-walkblog.com/blog/index/P8823/


I guess my vision of the typical spammer wasn't too far off...a convicted
felon!
Thanks for the interesting link Watson......Ross
I sure wish they'd go back to their old ceiminal activities. They
would then be messing with just a few people, not a hundred million a
day!


--
@@F@r@o@m@@O@r@a@n@g@e@@C@o@u@n@t@y@,@@C@a@l@,@@w@h@e@r@e@@
###Got a Question about ELECTRONICS? Check HERE First:###
http://users.pandora.be/educypedia/electronics/databank.htm
My email address is whitelisted. *All* email sent to it
goes directly to the trash unless you add NOSPAM in the
Subject: line with other stuff. alondra101 <at> hotmail.com
Don't be ripped off by the big book dealers. Go to the URL
that will give you a choice and save you money(up to half).
http://www.everybookstore.com You'll be glad you did!
Just when you thought you had all this figured out, the gov't
changed it: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html
@@t@h@e@@a@f@f@l@u@e@n@t@@m@e@e@t@@t@h@e@@E@f@f@l@u@e@n@t@@
 
"Watson A.Name - Watt Sun, Dark Remover" <alondra101@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:MPG.1a74eb4acb9dfd85989b50@news.dslextreme.com...
In article <E7dOb.25943$VS4.801688@bgtnsc04-
news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, this.is.a.mung@example.invalid
mentioned...

"Watson A.Name - Watt Sun, Dark Remover" <alondra101@hotmail.com> wrote
in
message news:MPG.1a726a8893e05df989b44@news.dslextreme.com...
In article <I0XNb.22942$VS4.695351@bgtnsc04-
news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, this.is.a.mung@example.invalid
mentioned...

"Baphomet" <no.spam@no.spam.us> wrote in message
news:100gbts5aplbv92@corp.supernews.com...



http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,61928,00.html?tw=newsletter_topstories_html


I haven't noticed any decrease in spam since the law passed either.
Perhaps
it's a bit early to tell. I liked that comment about the FTC making
an
example out of a few of the spammers. Wouldn't it be nice to tune
into
the
news and see a few of them cuffed and squirming as they are hauled
off
to
the pokie? I guess when you lose your job as a used car salesman you
take up
spamming for a living. At least that's my vision of their ilk!

Alan Ralsky: Convicted felon (insurance fraud)
http://j-walkblog.com/blog/index/P8823/


I guess my vision of the typical spammer wasn't too far off...a
convicted
felon!
Thanks for the interesting link Watson......Ross

I sure wish they'd go back to their old ceiminal activities. They
would then be messing with just a few people, not a hundred million a
day!


--
Agreed Watson ! Between the spammers, spooffers, phishers and virus writers,
they have cost the internet community & business a bundle. Just adding up
what I have spent on software to deal with this is probably close to $1000
through the years...
 

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