ANN: GdsViewer 1.0

Gene Bushuyev · Jul 30, 2006

This is an announcement of recently released GdsViewer 1.0
(www.gbresearch.com/software#gdsviewer), a new high capacity, fast GDSII viewer
for Windows. We would appreciate you trying the viewer and providing us with
feedback, bugs, feature requests, etc.

Thank you,

Gene Bushuyev (www.gbresearch.com)

JeffM · Jul 30, 2006

Gene Bushuyev wrote:

feedback

You might start by cleaning up that crap you call HTML:

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.gbresearch.com/software
It's not very impressive when a coder can't put together a proper Web
page.
..
..

This is an announcement of recently released GdsViewer 1.0...

"ANN" is reserved for non-commercial announcements.

You make your stuff sound like freeware
(whose announcements are welcome in sci.electronics.* hierarchy).
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=group:sci.electronics.*+LTspice+author:Mike-Engelhardt&scoring=d
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=group:sci.electronics.*+author:Reg-Edwards+New-Program&scoring=d

:From the site:
:License type Users Commercial Use Download
: 30-day Trial 1 No Windows
: Personal 1 No Windows
: Professional 1 Yes Windows

Having spent most of your Usenet time in a moderated group,
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?enc_author=w30z_BIAAABITJ9FYOS8bo8qpuupKz4v8rhlH0Pnl47z4AZhN98BFg&scoring=d
perhaps you think that unmoderated groups are open to spamming.
I assure you that is not the case.
Commercial advertisements are welcome in groups
which have words like ads biz forsale marketplace in their
names.

Other groups may permit FS (which would be more apt for your ad)
BUT COMMERCIAL ADS ARE NOT WELCOME HERE.

Jim Thompson · Jul 30, 2006

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:26:40 GMT, "Gene Bushuyev" <spam@spamguard.com>
wrote:

This is an announcement of recently released GdsViewer 1.0
(www.gbresearch.com/software#gdsviewer), a new high capacity, fast GDSII viewer
for Windows. We would appreciate you trying the viewer and providing us with
feedback, bugs, feature requests, etc.

Thank you,

Gene Bushuyev (www.gbresearch.com)

480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax

Jim Thompson · Jul 31, 2006

On 30 Jul 2006 16:36:29 -0700, "JeffM" <jeffm_@email.com> wrote:

Gene Bushuyev wrote:
We would appreciate[...]feedback

You might start by cleaning up that crap you call HTML:
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.gbresearch.com/software
It's not very impressive when a coder can't put together a proper Web
page.
.
.
This is an announcement of recently released GdsViewer 1.0...

"ANN" is reserved for non-commercial announcements.
You make your stuff sound like freeware
(whose announcements are welcome in sci.electronics.* hierarchy).
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=group:sci.electronics.*+LTspice+author:Mike-Engelhardt&scoring=d
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=group:sci.electronics.*+author:Reg-Edwards+New-Program&scoring=d

:From the site:
:License type Users Commercial Use Download
: 30-day Trial 1 No Windows
: Personal 1 No Windows
: Professional 1 Yes Windows

Having spent most of your Usenet time in a moderated group,
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?enc_author=w30z_BIAAABITJ9FYOS8bo8qpuupKz4v8rhlH0Pnl47z4AZhN98BFg&scoring=d
perhaps you think that unmoderated groups are open to spamming.
I assure you that is not the case.
Commercial advertisements are welcome in groups
which have words like ads biz forsale marketplace in their
names.

Other groups may permit FS (which would be more apt for your ad)
BUT COMMERCIAL ADS ARE NOT WELCOME HERE.

480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax

Jim Thompson · Jul 31, 2006

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:38:12 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:26:40 GMT, "Gene Bushuyev" <spam@spamguard.com
wrote:

This is an announcement of recently released GdsViewer 1.0
(www.gbresearch.com/software#gdsviewer), a new high capacity, fast GDSII viewer
for Windows. We would appreciate you trying the viewer and providing us with
feedback, bugs, feature requests, etc.

Thank you,

Gene Bushuyev (www.gbresearch.com)

Bombed. "Assertion failed"

...Jim Thompson

480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax

JeffM · Jul 31, 2006

Unfortunately it doesn't function properly :-(
Jim Thompson

The website also locked up one of my browsers.

Not impressed with his coding skills so far.
..
..

Other groups may permit FS (which would be more apt for your ad)
BUT COMMERCIAL ADS ARE NOT WELCOME HERE.
JeffM

It IS a CAD newsgroup, so I expect announcements of CAD.

Looking again at Mark Zenier's

"Guide to the Sci.Electronics Newsgroups",
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:UkDUQGrgwUEJ:www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/F_Groups.html+If-you-can-buy-it-at-the-nearest-shopping-mall-it-doesn't-belong-here+Why-can't-I-advertise
perhaps I am being too rigid.

OTOH, I see no previous interest in the group on the OP's part:
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?filter=0&q=group:sci.electronics.*&enc_author=w30z_BIAAABITJ9FYOS8bo8qpuupKz4v8rhlH0Pnl47z4AZhN98BFg&scoring=d

Maybe your intuition is correct and
that will change as he becomes a contributing member of the community.
who should be accepted with open arms. We'll see.

Gene Bushuyev · Jul 31, 2006

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No matter what I tried with yours it failed.

Keep in mind I was trying it on REAL *.GDS files... I/C cells of
various types.

Could you please provide a little bit more information: what operation were you
doing when the assertion was thrown, what message did you get, how big was the
file, any other information that can be useful?

Gene Bushuyev (www.gbresearch.com)

Gene Bushuyev · Jul 31, 2006

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[...]

No matter what I tried with yours it failed.

Keep in mind I was trying it on REAL *.GDS files... I/C cells of
various types.

I'm guessing, of course, not having any information about that failure, but the
most probable cause is some violation of GDSII spec. We have found some such
files, and are working now on supporting those cases. So if you know something
like that about your test cases would you be so kind to share that information?

Gene Bushuyev (www.gbresearch.com)

Jim Thompson · Jul 31, 2006

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[...]

No matter what I tried with yours it failed.

Keep in mind I was trying it on REAL *.GDS files... I/C cells of
various types.

I'm guessing, of course, not having any information about that failure, but the
most probable cause is some violation of GDSII spec. We have found some such
files, and are working now on supporting those cases. So if you know something
like that about your test cases would you be so kind to share that information?

Gene Bushuyev (www.gbresearch.com)

My file was 940KB.

I don't know what version it might be. I'm a circuit designer and
just use a viewer to make sure the layout people follow my
matching/positioning requests.

First I tried "Open With" your viewer, got the "Assertion" error
message.

Open your viewer, saw a bunch of "project" which I couldn't figure out
how to use.

BTW, "Open With" your viewer of your example files didn't work either.

But GDSVU will open your example.gds

...Jim Thompson
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| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
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Jim Thompson · Jul 31, 2006

On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 06:45:02 GMT, "Gene Bushuyev" <spam@spamguard.com>
wrote:

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[...]

No matter what I tried with yours it failed.

Keep in mind I was trying it on REAL *.GDS files... I/C cells of
various types.

I'm guessing, of course, not having any information about that failure, but the
most probable cause is some violation of GDSII spec. We have found some such
files, and are working now on supporting those cases. So if you know something
like that about your test cases would you be so kind to share that information?

Gene Bushuyev (www.gbresearch.com)

Groping around I found that double-clicking in *your* directory tree I
could *see* example.gds.

Incomplete however. See this comparison of GDSVU versus GDSViewer...

http://analog-innovations.com/SED/Compare-GDSVU-GDSViewer.png

Maybe you have overly hamstrung the evaluation version, or maybe there
is a bug... I had clicked "Visible all".

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice

480)460-2350 | |
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Gene Bushuyev · Jul 31, 2006

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 06:45:02 GMT, "Gene Bushuyev" <spam@spamguard.com
wrote:
[...]
Groping around I found that double-clicking in *your* directory tree I
could *see* example.gds.

Yes, you can double click on the project name on Start Page, or click the button
on the bottom that says "Open bla-bla-bla project." On the Project Manager page
double clicking the gds file (or pressing "open selected" button) loads gds
file. If it's loaded it expands/collapses tree node. Double clicking the cell
node (or pressing "open selected" button) opens Layout Window that shows
layout...

Incomplete however. See this comparison of GDSVU versus GDSViewer...

http://analog-innovations.com/SED/Compare-GDSVU-GDSViewer.png

Maybe you have overly hamstrung the evaluation version, or maybe there
is a bug... I had clicked "Visible all".

I'm glad to see it works after all

No, the evaluation version includes the full functionality. The reason you
didn't see the same picture as GDSVU is because you didn't ask GdsViewer to
flatten hierarchy. On the top level there is only one polygon and a bunch of
cells. The spin-edit on the top ("hierarchy depth") allows flattening to
requested hierarchy level. All rectangles are on the bottom of hierarchy (level
3,) so set "3" in the "hierarchy depth" and you shall see them all.

Gene Bushuyev (www.gbresearch.com)

Jim Thompson · Jul 31, 2006

On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:20:13 GMT, "Gene Bushuyev" <spam@spamguard.com>
wrote:

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On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 06:45:02 GMT, "Gene Bushuyev" <spam@spamguard.com
wrote:
[...]
Groping around I found that double-clicking in *your* directory tree I
could *see* example.gds.

Yes, you can double click on the project name on Start Page, or click the button
on the bottom that says "Open bla-bla-bla project." On the Project Manager page
double clicking the gds file (or pressing "open selected" button) loads gds
file. If it's loaded it expands/collapses tree node. Double clicking the cell
node (or pressing "open selected" button) opens Layout Window that shows
layout...

Incomplete however. See this comparison of GDSVU versus GDSViewer...

http://analog-innovations.com/SED/Compare-GDSVU-GDSViewer.png

Maybe you have overly hamstrung the evaluation version, or maybe there
is a bug... I had clicked "Visible all".

I'm glad to see it works after all
No, the evaluation version includes the full functionality.

How can I view my 940KB file?

The reason you
didn't see the same picture as GDSVU is because you didn't ask GdsViewer to
flatten hierarchy. On the top level there is only one polygon and a bunch of
cells. The spin-edit on the top ("hierarchy depth") allows flattening to
requested hierarchy level. All rectangles are on the bottom of hierarchy (level
3,) so set "3" in the "hierarchy depth" and you shall see them all.

Gene Bushuyev (www.gbresearch.com)

480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax

Gene Bushuyev · Aug 1, 2006

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[...]

How can I view my 940KB file?

You can either create a new project or add file to the existing project. Since
you already know how to open an existing project, here is how you can add
another file to it. On Project Manager page select the very top node (your
project), click on the button with green plus ("add files"), navigate to the
file you want to add, click Open. The file is added to the project tree. Double
click on it ... All buttons show a hint when the mouse cursor hovers over them.
There is also a Help button on right side on the Main window.

Happy blinking

--
Gene Bushuyev (www.gbresearch.com)

P.S. The version of GdsViewer on the web site was recently updated to take care
of some files that violate GDSII spec.

Jim Thompson · Aug 4, 2006

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wrote:

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[...]

How can I view my 940KB file?

You can either create a new project or add file to the existing project. Since
you already know how to open an existing project, here is how you can add
another file to it. On Project Manager page select the very top node (your
project), click on the button with green plus ("add files"), navigate to the
file you want to add, click Open. The file is added to the project tree. Double
click on it ... All buttons show a hint when the mouse cursor hovers over them.
There is also a Help button on right side on the Main window.

Happy blinking

480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax

Jim Thompson · Aug 4, 2006

On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:26:12 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 00:48:54 GMT, "Gene Bushuyev" <spam@spamguard.com
wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in message
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[...]

How can I view my 940KB file?

You can either create a new project or add file to the existing project. Since
you already know how to open an existing project, here is how you can add
another file to it. On Project Manager page select the very top node (your
project), click on the button with green plus ("add files"), navigate to the
file you want to add, click Open. The file is added to the project tree. Double
click on it ... All buttons show a hint when the mouse cursor hovers over them.
There is also a Help button on right side on the Main window.

Happy blinking

A little different way of doing the GUI, but it's growing on me... I
like it! And your price is certainly attractive. But your website is
butt slow :-(

...Jim Thompson

480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax

Gene Bushuyev · Aug 4, 2006

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wrote:

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[...]

How can I view my 940KB file?

You can either create a new project or add file to the existing project. Since
you already know how to open an existing project, here is how you can add
another file to it. On Project Manager page select the very top node (your
project), click on the button with green plus ("add files"), navigate to the
file you want to add, click Open. The file is added to the project tree.
Double
click on it ... All buttons show a hint when the mouse cursor hovers over
them.
There is also a Help button on right side on the Main window.

Happy blinking

A little different way of doing the GUI, but it's growing on me... I
like it! And your price is certainly attractive. But your website is
butt slow :-(

Thanks. And of course, to keep customers happy we will have special upgrade
pricing when the new releases come.
The web site was really slow today, I don't know what happened. The normal
response time is 0.11 s according to the reports from the hosting company.

--
Gene Bushuyev (www.gbresearch.com)

Gene Bushuyev · Aug 4, 2006

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On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:26:12 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 00:48:54 GMT, "Gene Bushuyev" <spam@spamguard.com
wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message
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[...]

How can I view my 940KB file?

You can either create a new project or add file to the existing project.
Since
you already know how to open an existing project, here is how you can add
another file to it. On Project Manager page select the very top node (your
project), click on the button with green plus ("add files"), navigate to the
file you want to add, click Open. The file is added to the project tree.
Double
click on it ... All buttons show a hint when the mouse cursor hovers over
them.
There is also a Help button on right side on the Main window.

Happy blinking

A little different way of doing the GUI, but it's growing on me... I
like it! And your price is certainly attractive. But your website is
butt slow :-(

...Jim Thompson

PS: I'd like it a lot better if I could just double click on a GDS
file and GDSViewer opened it.

Ok, thanks for the suggestion.
The reason GdsViewer has a project file is to keep all the additional
information that gds file doesn't have. I guess automatically creating a project
with default options when opening gds file will be an acceptable solution to
this problem. We'll see.

--
Gene Bushuyev (www.gbresearch.com)

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