Amazon may launch Australian website

[Don McKenzie]

Amazon may launch Australian website

Well, this may put the cat amongst the pigeons.

Bricks-and-mortar retailers may soon be facing another online threat with Amazon considering setting up a base in Australia.

The US online retailer that sells a range of electrical items has managed to take a significant share of the local
market for computer software, books and DVDs.

According to Morgan Stanley, Amazon wants to further build its online sales in Australia, and may be considering setting
up an Australian-based website.

Full story at:
http://www.connectedaustralia.com/News/BreakingNews/tabid/119/ArticleId/6632/Amazon-may-launch-Australian-website.aspx

Cheers Don...

====================

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[felix_unger]

On 21-January-2012 8:17 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:

Amazon may launch Australian website

Well, this may put the cat amongst the pigeons.

Bricks-and-mortar retailers may soon be facing another online threat
with Amazon considering setting up a base in Australia.

The US online retailer that sells a range of electrical items has
managed to take a significant share of the local market for computer
software, books and DVDs.

According to Morgan Stanley, Amazon wants to further build its online
sales in Australia, and may be considering setting up an
Australian-based website.

Full story at:
http://www.connectedaustralia.com/News/BreakingNews/tabid/119/ArticleId/6632/Amazon-may-launch-Australian-website.aspx


Cheers Don...

====================

Good news!

--
rgds,

Pete
-------
“If Julia is the answer, then what was the stupid question?!”

 

[Phil Allison]

"felix dunghead"

Don McKenzie wrote:

Amazon may launch Australian website

Well, this may put the cat amongst the pigeons.

Bricks-and-mortar retailers may soon be facing another online threat with
Amazon considering setting up a base in Australia.

The US online retailer that sells a range of electrical items has managed
to take a significant share of the local market for computer software,
books and DVDs.

According to Morgan Stanley, Amazon wants to further build its online
sales in Australia, and may be considering setting up an Australian-based
website.

Full story at:
http://www.connectedaustralia.com/News/BreakingNews/tabid/119/ArticleId/6632/Amazon-may-launch-Australian-website.aspx


Good news!

** Like hell.

" If Amazon does establish an Australian site, consumers could be prevented
from purchasing from the US and UK sites, and charge higher prices. "



..... Phil

 

[Bob Milutinovic]

On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:13:24 +1100, Phil Allison <phil_a@tpg.com.au> wrote:

"felix dunghead"

Don McKenzie wrote:

Amazon may launch Australian website

Well, this may put the cat amongst the pigeons.

Bricks-and-mortar retailers may soon be facing another online threat
with
Amazon considering setting up a base in Australia.

The US online retailer that sells a range of electrical items has
managed
to take a significant share of the local market for computer software,
books and DVDs.

According to Morgan Stanley, Amazon wants to further build its online
sales in Australia, and may be considering setting up an
Australian-based
website.

Full story at:
http://www.connectedaustralia.com/News/BreakingNews/tabid/119/ArticleId/6632/Amazon-may-launch-Australian-website.aspx


Good news!

** Like hell.

" If Amazon does establish an Australian site, consumers could be
prevented
from purchasing from the US and UK sites, and charge higher prices. "

The US and UK sites already charge ridiculous prices compared to other
online retailers. I've not been able to find one exception to this rule.

The problem however is that it's a simple "one-stop-shop," which is in
itself a boon for people who're too lazy or too stupid to properly search
online.

--
Bob Milutinovic
Cognicom

 

[terryc]

Don McKenzie wrote:

Amazon may launch Australian website

Well, this may put the cat amongst the pigeons.

Bricks-and-mortar retailers may soon be facing another online threat
with Amazon considering setting up a base in Australia.

Hahahahaha, I whipped their arse when they first started. Icould send
stuff back into the states within days, whereas they took weeks. I'm now
in a better position to whip their arse again (if I choose to go back
into the business). The big failing with Amazon is they do not like
keeping stock and can not deliver.

According to Morgan Stanley, Amazon wants to further build its online
sales in Australia, and may be considering setting up an
Australian-based website.

Really means SFA. My 2c is that it will just be a customised page on the
same server.

 

[Rod Speed]

Phil Allison wrote:

felix unger wrote
Don McKenzie wrote

Amazon may launch Australian website

Well, this may put the cat amongst the pigeons.

Bricks-and-mortar retailers may soon be facing another online
threat with Amazon considering setting up a base in Australia.

The US online retailer that sells a range of electrical items has
managed to take a significant share of the local market for
computer software, books and DVDs.

According to Morgan Stanley, Amazon wants to further build its
online sales in Australia, and may be considering setting up an
Australian-based website.

Full story at:
http://www.connectedaustralia.com/News/BreakingNews/tabid/119/ArticleId/6632/Amazon-may-launch-Australian-website.aspx

Good news!

Like hell.

" If Amazon does establish an Australian site, consumers could be prevented from purchasing from the US and UK sites,
and charge higher prices. "

How odd that they dont with their other non US web sites.

 

[Rod Speed]

Bob Milutinovic wrote

Phil Allison <phil_a@tpg.com.au> wrote
felix unger wrote
Don McKenzie wrote

Amazon may launch Australian website

Well, this may put the cat amongst the pigeons.

Bricks-and-mortar retailers may soon be facing another online
threat with Amazon considering setting up a base in Australia.

The US online retailer that sells a range of electrical items has managed to take a significant share of the local
market for computer software, books and DVDs.

According to Morgan Stanley, Amazon wants to further build its
online sales in Australia, and may be considering setting up an
Australian-based website.

Full story at:
http://www.connectedaustralia.com/News/BreakingNews/tabid/119/ArticleId/6632/Amazon-may-launch-Australian-website.aspx

Good news!

Like hell.

" If Amazon does establish an Australian site, consumers could be prevented
from purchasing from the US and UK sites, and charge higher prices. "

The US and UK sites already charge ridiculous prices compared to other
online retailers. I've not been able to find one exception to this rule.

I have.

The problem however is that it's a simple "one-stop-shop," which is in itself a boon for people who're too lazy or too
stupid to properly search online.

And those who are sick of farting around trying to work out who is happy to export and
how much they plan to change to do that, with some of the other viable shopping sites.

 

[felix_unger]

On 21-January-2012 12:37 PM, Bob Milutinovic wrote:

On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:13:24 +1100, Phil Allison <phil_a@tpg.com.au
wrote:


"felix dunghead"

Don McKenzie wrote:

Amazon may launch Australian website

Well, this may put the cat amongst the pigeons.

Bricks-and-mortar retailers may soon be facing another online
threat with
Amazon considering setting up a base in Australia.

The US online retailer that sells a range of electrical items has
managed
to take a significant share of the local market for computer software,
books and DVDs.

According to Morgan Stanley, Amazon wants to further build its online
sales in Australia, and may be considering setting up an
Australian-based
website.

Full story at:
http://www.connectedaustralia.com/News/BreakingNews/tabid/119/ArticleId/6632/Amazon-may-launch-Australian-website.aspx



Good news!

** Like hell.

" If Amazon does establish an Australian site, consumers could be
prevented
from purchasing from the US and UK sites, and charge higher prices. "

The US and UK sites already charge ridiculous prices compared to other
online retailers. I've not been able to find one exception to this rule.

The problem however is that it's a simple "one-stop-shop," which is in
itself a boon for people who're too lazy or too stupid to properly
search online.

eBay rules!

--
rgds,

Pete
-------
“If Julia is the answer, then what was the stupid question?!”

"Julia finally got something right. Older people don't vote Labor, because they have seen too many incompetent, mismanaging, money-wasting Labor governments"

“All that's needed now is a small miracle to rid us of the worst prime minister and the worst government in Australia's history”

"If the WORLD as a whole cut ALL emissions tomorrow, the average temperature of the planet's not going to drop for several hundred years, perhaps over on thousand years" - Tim Flannery, Climate Commissioner

 

[Rheilly Phoull]

On 1/21/2012 9:46 AM, terryc wrote:

Don McKenzie wrote:
Amazon may launch Australian website

Well, this may put the cat amongst the pigeons.

Bricks-and-mortar retailers may soon be facing another online threat
with Amazon considering setting up a base in Australia.

Hahahahaha, I whipped their arse when they first started. Icould send
stuff back into the states within days, whereas they took weeks. I'm now
in a better position to whip their arse again (if I choose to go back
into the business). The big failing with Amazon is they do not like
keeping stock and can not deliver.

According to Morgan Stanley, Amazon wants to further build its online
sales in Australia, and may be considering setting up an
Australian-based website.

Really means SFA. My 2c is that it will just be a customised page on the
same server.

Hopefully they might persuade a lot of the sellers to sell to us as well !

Rheilly P

 

[SolomonW]

On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 08:17:15 +1100, Don McKenzie wrote:

Amazon may launch Australian website

Well, this may put the cat amongst the pigeons.

Bricks-and-mortar retailers may soon be facing another online threat with Amazon considering setting up a base in Australia.

The US online retailer that sells a range of electrical items has managed to take a significant share of the local
market for computer software, books and DVDs.

According to Morgan Stanley, Amazon wants to further build its online sales in Australia, and may be considering setting
up an Australian-based website.

Full story at:
http://www.connectedaustralia.com/News/BreakingNews/tabid/119/ArticleId/6632/Amazon-may-launch-Australian-website.aspx

Cheers Don...

====================

I doubt it will happen, Amazon now can market to Australia without GST, if
the set up a website here they may need to pay GST.

Why do you think Harvey Norman is setting up a website overseas?

 

[Don McKenzie]

On 21-Jan-12 9:39 PM, SolomonW wrote:

I doubt it will happen, Amazon now can market to Australia without GST, if
the set up a website here they may need to pay GST.

They pay GST, then they get it back, same as any Australian run business.

OK, the customer has to pay GST, but it isn't about the 10%.
It is about the big percentage markups some companies have got away with charging customers for years.

Not that I think Amazon specifically will pass on any savings. I'm sure you won't be able to get certain books or goods
here as quickly as they are released in the US.

Why do you think Harvey Norman is setting up a website overseas?

because the public told him what he was doing wrong, and 10 years late, he thought he better get with the act.
Gerry doesn't quite get it.
again, it has nothing to do with the 10%

Mind you, when on line overseas sales builds to a massive scale that greatly affects gst income, the fed govt will
scramble to think up some new tax plan.

Cheers Don...

=================


--
Don McKenzie

Dontronics: http://www.dontronics-shop.com/

DuinoMite the PIC32 $35 Basic Computer-MicroController
http://www.dontronics-shop.com/the-maximite-computer.html
Just add a VGA monitor or TV, and PS2 Keyboard.
Arduino Shield, Programmed in Basic, or C.

 

[Rod Speed]

felix_unger wrote

Bob Milutinovic wrote
Phil Allison <phil_a@tpg.com.au> wrote
felix_unger wrote
Don McKenzie wrote

Amazon may launch Australian website

Well, this may put the cat amongst the pigeons.

Bricks-and-mortar retailers may soon be facing another online
threat with Amazon considering setting up a base in Australia.

The US online retailer that sells a range of electrical items has managed to take a significant share of the local
market for computer software, books and DVDs.

According to Morgan Stanley, Amazon wants to further build its
online sales in Australia, and may be considering setting up an
Australian-based website.

Full story at:
http://www.connectedaustralia.com/News/BreakingNews/tabid/119/ArticleId/6632/Amazon-may-launch-Australian-website.aspx

Good news!

Like hell.

" If Amazon does establish an Australian site, consumers could be prevented from purchasing from the US and UK
sites, and charge higher prices."

The US and UK sites already charge ridiculous prices compared to
other online retailers. I've not been able to find one exception to this rule.

The problem however is that it's a simple "one-stop-shop," which is
in itself a boon for people who're too lazy or too stupid to properly
search online.

eBay rules!

Nope, with some stuff there is nothing like the same collection to choose from with ebay,

 

[Rod Speed]

SolomonW wrote

Don McKenzie wrote

Amazon may launch Australian website

Well, this may put the cat amongst the pigeons.

Bricks-and-mortar retailers may soon be facing another online
threat with Amazon considering setting up a base in Australia.

The US online retailer that sells a range of electrical items
has managed to take a significant share of the local
market for computer software, books and DVDs.

According to Morgan Stanley, Amazon wants to further build its
online sales in Australia, and may be considering setting
up an Australian-based website.

Full story at:
http://www.connectedaustralia.com/News/BreakingNews/tabid/119/ArticleId/6632/Amazon-may-launch-Australian-website.aspx

Cheers Don...

====================

I doubt it will happen, Amazon now can market to Australia without
GST, if the set up a website here they may need to pay GST.

That didnt stop them having a pom web site.

Why do you think Harvey Norman is setting up a website overseas?

Different matter entirely.

 

[SolomonW]

On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 01:15:57 +1100, Don McKenzie wrote:

On 21-Jan-12 9:39 PM, SolomonW wrote:

I doubt it will happen, Amazon now can market to Australia without GST, if
the set up a website here they may need to pay GST.

They pay GST, then they get it back, same as any Australian run business.

OK, the customer has to pay GST, but it isn't about the 10%.

Actually, it does as it adds up to 10% more for the customer. When people
do there buying online that is a big issue.

It is about the big percentage markups some companies have got away with charging customers for years.

Not that I think Amazon specifically will pass on any savings.

Which destroys that argument for Amazon

I'm sure you won't be able to get certain books or goods
here as quickly as they are released in the US.

Which also destroys that argument for Amazon

One problem you have here is physical books are dying. Much of the stuff I
am reading now is electronic which can be serviced fine by Amazon overseas.

Why do you think Harvey Norman is setting up a website overseas?

because the public told him what he was doing wrong, and 10 years late, he thought he better get with the act.
Gerry doesn't quite get it.
again, it has nothing to do with the 10%

That is not what Gerry is saying.

Mind you, when on line overseas sales builds to a massive scale that greatly affects gst income, the fed govt will
scramble to think up some new tax plan.

Cheers Don...

=================

Of course.

 

[Don McKenzie]

One problem you have here is physical books are dying. Much of the stuff I
am reading now is electronic which can be serviced fine by Amazon overseas.

Serviced? Well, not really.

Why is Australia limited to certain eBook publications by Amazon?

My wife was one of the first oz customers to buy books from amazon, and then eBooks by being one of the first to buy a
kindle when they were offered to Australians.

She has something like 200 books she has purchased for her kindle.

She tells me that she can't get the same books that are offered in the US, or they are released here months after their
US release. "Not available to Australian Customers".

Why would this be? It doesn't make sense.

She often buys a hard copy here, before it is released on Kindle for Australians, yet it is available in the US on line.

Cheers Don...

=======================

--
Don McKenzie

Dontronics: http://www.dontronics-shop.com/

DuinoMite the PIC32 $35 Basic Computer-MicroController
http://www.dontronics-shop.com/the-maximite-computer.html
Just add a VGA monitor or TV, and PS2 Keyboard.
Arduino Shield, Programmed in Basic, or C.

 

[Rod Speed]

SolomonW wrote

Don McKenzie wrote
SolomonW wrote

I doubt it will happen, Amazon now can market to Australia without
GST, if the set up a website here they may need to pay GST.

They pay GST, then they get it back, same as any Australian run business.

OK, the customer has to pay GST, but it isn't about the 10%.

Actually, it does as it adds up to 10% more for the customer.
When people do there buying online that is a big issue.

Nope, its just part of what they really care about, the total they pay.

It is about the big percentage markups some companies
have got away with charging customers for years.

Not that I think Amazon specifically will pass on any savings.

Which destroys that argument for Amazon

Not if he is wrong on that.

I'm sure you won't be able to get certain books or
goods here as quickly as they are released in the US.

Which also destroys that argument for Amazon

Nope, all they need to do is do it quicker than the locals.

One problem you have here is physical books are dying.

We'll see...

Much of the stuff I am reading now is electronic
which can be serviced fine by Amazon overseas.

Sure, but it remains to be seen what percentage of the sales end up like that.

Why do you think Harvey Norman is setting up a website overseas?

because the public told him what he was doing wrong, and 10 years
late, he thought he better get with the act. Gerry doesn't quite get it.

again, it has nothing to do with the 10%

That is not what Gerry is saying.

That fool never has had a fucking clue about net sales.

Mind you, when on line overseas sales builds to a massive scale that
greatly affects gst income, the fed govt will scramble to think up
some new tax plan.

Of course.

 

[Peter]

Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> wrote:

One problem you have here is physical books are dying. Much of the stuff I
am reading now is electronic which can be serviced fine by Amazon overseas.

Serviced? Well, not really.

Why is Australia limited to certain eBook publications by Amazon?

My wife was one of the first oz customers to buy books from amazon, and
then eBooks by being one of the first to buy a kindle when they were
offered to Australians.

She has something like 200 books she has purchased for her kindle.

She tells me that she can't get the same books that are offered in the
US, or they are released here months after their US release. "Not
available to Australian Customers".

Why would this be? It doesn't make sense.

She often buys a hard copy here, before it is released on Kindle for
Australians, yet it is available in the US on line.

Cheers Don...

=======================

My guess...

Copyright protection or at least trying to preserve some income.
You have proven it is working!
We Australians are bastards for putting stuff online that doesn't belong to
us.
I think the US laws and how they are policed are a little different to here
as well.

Just a guess.

--

 

[SolomonW]

On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 08:09:41 +1100, Don McKenzie wrote:

One problem you have here is physical books are dying. Much of the stuff I
am reading now is electronic which can be serviced fine by Amazon overseas.

Serviced? Well, not really.

Why is Australia limited to certain eBook publications by Amazon?

My wife was one of the first oz customers to buy books from amazon, and then eBooks by being one of the first to buy a
kindle when they were offered to Australians.

She has something like 200 books she has purchased for her kindle.

She tells me that she can't get the same books that are offered in the US, or they are released here months after their
US release. "Not available to Australian Customers".

Why would this be? It doesn't make sense.

She often buys a hard copy here, before it is released on Kindle for Australians, yet it is available in the US on line.

Cheers Don...

=======================

Nothing will change about this if Amazon has an Australian website except
you will now be charged an extra 10% GST.

There are work a rounds for kindle.
http://www.labnol.org/gadgets/buy-amazon-kindle-books-magazines-outside-us/4022/

 

[Rod Speed]

SolomonW wrote

Don McKenzie wrote

One problem you have here is physical books are dying.
Much of the stuff I am reading now is electronic which
can be serviced fine by Amazon overseas.

Serviced? Well, not really.

Why is Australia limited to certain eBook publications by Amazon?

My wife was one of the first oz customers to buy books from amazon,
and then eBooks by being one of the first to buy a kindle when they
were offered to Australians.

She has something like 200 books she has purchased for her kindle.

She tells me that she can't get the same books that are offered in
the US, or they are released here months after their US release.
"Not available to Australian Customers".

Why would this be? It doesn't make sense.

She often buys a hard copy here, before it is released on
Kindle for Australians, yet it is available in the US on line.

Nothing will change about this if Amazon has an Australian website
except you will now be charged an extra 10% GST.

Wrong, a lot more stuff will be shipped to Australia, stupid.

And have fun explaining why that already happens with the pommy amazon site.

There are work a rounds for kindle.
http://www.labnol.org/gadgets/buy-amazon-kindle-books-magazines-outside-us/4022/

 

[Don McKenzie]

On 22-Jan-12 10:44 AM, SolomonW wrote:

There are work a rounds for kindle.
http://www.labnol.org/gadgets/buy-amazon-kindle-books-magazines-outside-us/4022/

30/07/08
sorry, article is 2.5 years old, and you have been able to get a kindle in oz for a long time now.

Cheers Don...

=====================


--
Don McKenzie

Dontronics: http://www.dontronics-shop.com/

DuinoMite the PIC32 $35 Basic Computer-MicroController
http://www.dontronics-shop.com/the-maximite-computer.html
Just add a VGA monitor or TV, and PS2 Keyboard.
Arduino Shield, Programmed in Basic, or C.