Amazing Facts - 5G Cellular Causes COVID-19

[Jeff Liebermann]

5G RF Causes COVID-19
<https://fourfoldhealing.com/blogs/news/an-important-question-about-the-coronavirus-plus-immune-support-tips>

Coronavirus Caused By 5G?
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFN5LUaqxOA>

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

 

Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in
news:9m357flvgnmvsharhs11c13t59t61dtbp5@4ax.com:

5G RF Causes COVID-19
https://fourfoldhealing.com/blogs/news/an-important-question-about
-the-coronavirus-plus-immune-support-tips

Coronavirus Caused By 5G?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFN5LUaqxOA

That guy is a lunatic.

 

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:6na57fhbe2gbgs7977g9j7h0s305gdths8@4ax.com:

On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 14:16:12 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:


5G RF Causes COVID-19
https://fourfoldhealing.com/blogs/news/an-important-question-about
-the-coronavirus-plus-immune-support-tips

High intensity radar in 1918?

Maybe he was talking about Tesla.

Don't know because the guy is dumber than Donald John Trump.

 

On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 14:16:12 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

5G RF Causes COVID-19
https://fourfoldhealing.com/blogs/news/an-important-question-about-the-coronavirus-plus-immune-support-tips

High intensity radar in 1918?




--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 18/03/20 23:15, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 14:16:12 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com
wrote:


5G RF Causes COVID-19
https://fourfoldhealing.com/blogs/news/an-important-question-about-the-coronavirus-plus-immune-support-tips

High intensity radar in 1918?

Don't be silly. T'was epigenetic effects of the Carrington event.

 

[John Robertson]

On 2020/03/18 2:16 p.m., Jeff Liebermann wrote:

5G RF Causes COVID-19
https://fourfoldhealing.com/blogs/news/an-important-question-about-the-coronavirus-plus-immune-support-tips

Coronavirus Caused By 5G?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFN5LUaqxOA

Yes, It all makes sense - the main people who seem to get it seriously
are in old folks homes - a hot-bed of technology!

Is it April 1st already? I've lost track of time...

John

 

Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
news:WwycG.377901$AV6.179773@fx04.am4:

On 18/03/20 23:15, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 14:16:12 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:


5G RF Causes COVID-19
https://fourfoldhealing.com/blogs/news/an-important-question-abo
ut-the-coronavirus-plus-immune-support-tips

High intensity radar in 1918?

Don't be silly. T'was epigenetic effects of the Carrington event.

Just ask Johnny Cochran!

He had one of these pop out of a morphed cell and into his ear!
<https://youtu.be/3i42Smtbmeg?t=76>

Those pesky EM waves!

Hey wait... would that not then mean that WE are a virus on the
face of the globe and have infected it for thousands of years because
an ape's cell got some stellar rf morphed jism in his ape girl's hot
ape snatch?

Those PESKY EM WAVES!

I need a suntan!

Give me a button to push, I'll give everyone a nice, white light to
gander at.

<https://youtu.be/ymsiLGVsi_k?t=55>

Let all those morphed strands 'evolve' into the next living things
to populate the planet. We pretty much failed.

 

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 16:15:05 -0700, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 14:16:12 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com
wrote:
5G RF Causes COVID-19
https://fourfoldhealing.com/blogs/news/an-important-question-about-the-coronavirus-plus-immune-support-tips

High intensity radar in 1918?

Hardly but for fun, I'll argue the point on his behalf. During WWI,
the receivers and detectors were not very sensitive. To compensate,
the transmitters were designed to belch huge amounts of RF power. For
example, the Alexanderson alternator:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexanderson_alternator>
"A large Alexanderson alternator might produce 500 kW of output
radio-frequency energy and would be water or oil cooled."
At less than 25kHz, one can do some real damage with 1/2 a megawatt of
RF. So, it's possible that some electrosensitive people in the
vicinity of these transmitters might have been affected by the RF.

As for the mention of RADAR, the author is obviously lacking in RF
expertise and probably meant high power naval shore stations intended
to communicate with ocean going vessels.

The problem I have with the author is his assertion that if two events
roughly coincide, then one must have caused the other. Coincidence is
not proof of causation. Yet, that's the basis of his entire argument
relating RF and viral pandemics.

Also, please don't assume that everyone involved in RF health effects
is a lunatic. Last month, I attended a talk by Dr Karl Maret on what
was essentially the possible health effects of 5G. Video of the talk:
Future of Wireless & Its Health Effects
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVnUJFAoudU> (2 hrs long)
I was pleasantly surprised that he was quite knowledgeable about RF,
RF associated buzzwords, acronyms, and cellular radio terminology.
More:
<https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dr+karl+maret>
<http://www.emfawaresc.org>
There was also a link to the slides used in his presentation, but I
can't seem to find it right now. His main point is that there has
been little or no research into possible health effects caused by 5G,
and that it should not be deployed without additional research. It
was an interesting talk, but was ruined (for me) because of the
lunatic fringe it attracted. I was also surprised that a fairly large
number of the attendees asked questions involving various maladies and
illnesses and whether these might be attributable to RF exposure.



--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

 

[amal banerjee]

On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 2:45:57 AM UTC+5:30, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

5G RF Causes COVID-19
https://fourfoldhealing.com/blogs/news/an-important-question-about-the-coronavirus-plus-immune-support-tips

Coronavirus Caused By 5G?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFN5LUaqxOA

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Interesting. Maybe an offshoot of E = mc^2 , perhaps ?
Certain frequency electromagnetic energy converted
to mass generates COVID-19 ????

 

On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 21:34:17 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 14:16:12 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com
wrote:
5G RF Causes COVID-19
https://fourfoldhealing.com/blogs/news/an-important-question-about-the-coronavirus-plus-immune-support-tips

High intensity radar in 1918?

Hardly but for fun, I'll argue the point on his behalf. During WWI,
the receivers and detectors were not very sensitive. To compensate,
the transmitters were designed to belch huge amounts of RF power. For
example, the Alexanderson alternator:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexanderson_alternator
"A large Alexanderson alternator might produce 500 kW of output
radio-frequency energy and would be water or oil cooled."
At less than 25kHz, one can do some real damage with 1/2 a megawatt of
RF. So, it's possible that some electrosensitive people in the
vicinity of these transmitters might have been affected by the RF.

Please note that the SAQ antenna i very small compared to wavelength.
With radiation resistance in milliohms, the SAQ antenna system
efficiency was quite low, most likely below 1 %, thus if the
generation generated 200 kW, perhaps only 2 kW EiRP is actually
radiated. Of course walking between the vertical radiating elements,
very high electric or magnetic fields could exist. Outside the
immediate near field, the EMC field strength was moderate.

 

On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 21:34:17 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 16:15:05 -0700, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 14:16:12 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com
wrote:
5G RF Causes COVID-19
https://fourfoldhealing.com/blogs/news/an-important-question-about-the-coronavirus-plus-immune-support-tips

High intensity radar in 1918?

Hardly but for fun, I'll argue the point on his behalf. During WWI,
the receivers and detectors were not very sensitive. To compensate,
the transmitters were designed to belch huge amounts of RF power. For
example, the Alexanderson alternator:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexanderson_alternator
"A large Alexanderson alternator might produce 500 kW of output
radio-frequency energy and would be water or oil cooled."
At less than 25kHz, one can do some real damage with 1/2 a megawatt of
RF. So, it's possible that some electrosensitive people in the
vicinity of these transmitters might have been affected by the RF.

As for the mention of RADAR, the author is obviously lacking in RF
expertise and probably meant high power naval shore stations intended
to communicate with ocean going vessels.

The problem I have with the author is his assertion that if two events
roughly coincide, then one must have caused the other. Coincidence is
not proof of causation. Yet, that's the basis of his entire argument
relating RF and viral pandemics.

Also, please don't assume that everyone involved in RF health effects
is a lunatic. Last month, I attended a talk by Dr Karl Maret on what
was essentially the possible health effects of 5G. Video of the talk:
Future of Wireless & Its Health Effects
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVnUJFAoudU> (2 hrs long)
I was pleasantly surprised that he was quite knowledgeable about RF,
RF associated buzzwords, acronyms, and cellular radio terminology.
More:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dr+karl+maret
http://www.emfawaresc.org
There was also a link to the slides used in his presentation, but I
can't seem to find it right now. His main point is that there has
been little or no research into possible health effects caused by 5G,
and that it should not be deployed without additional research. It
was an interesting talk, but was ruined (for me) because of the
lunatic fringe it attracted. I was also surprised that a fairly large
number of the attendees asked questions involving various maladies and
illnesses and whether these might be attributable to RF exposure.

Is 5G high power? What is especially harmful about 5G?



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"

 

[David Brown]

On 19/03/2020 10:18, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

Is 5G high power? What is especially harmful about 5G?

No, and nothing.

That won't stop the conspiracy theory loonies.

 

[piglet]

On 19/03/2020 9:18 am, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

Is 5G high power? What is especially harmful about 5G?

Perhaps some folk think it is 5 Giga Watts!

piglet

 

On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 16:11:43 +0000, Piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com>
wrote:

On 19/03/2020 16:07, Rick C wrote:
What is different about 5G is the frequency. In discussions in a UK group they talk about it including bands well above the 5 GHz we use for cell phones and other devices.

As the frequency increases we do need to consider that at some point it may start interacting differently with human tissues. Chemistry does have effects due to specific wavelengths of radiation. For sure we will find any harmful effects that may exist if we start selling people millions and billions of radiators. But it will take a while.


5G can also include frequencies around 700MHz from clearing the old TV
bands.


piglet

Wavelengths around 800 THz are known to cause cancer.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"

 

[Piglet]

On 19/03/2020 16:07, Rick C wrote:

What is different about 5G is the frequency. In discussions in a UK group they talk about it including bands well above the 5 GHz we use for cell phones and other devices.

As the frequency increases we do need to consider that at some point it may start interacting differently with human tissues. Chemistry does have effects due to specific wavelengths of radiation. For sure we will find any harmful effects that may exist if we start selling people millions and billions of radiators. But it will take a while.

5G can also include frequencies around 700MHz from clearing the old TV
bands.


piglet

 

[Rick C]

On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 5:19:02 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 21:34:17 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 16:15:05 -0700, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 14:16:12 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com
wrote:
5G RF Causes COVID-19
https://fourfoldhealing.com/blogs/news/an-important-question-about-the-coronavirus-plus-immune-support-tips

High intensity radar in 1918?

Hardly but for fun, I'll argue the point on his behalf. During WWI,
the receivers and detectors were not very sensitive. To compensate,
the transmitters were designed to belch huge amounts of RF power. For
example, the Alexanderson alternator:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexanderson_alternator
"A large Alexanderson alternator might produce 500 kW of output
radio-frequency energy and would be water or oil cooled."
At less than 25kHz, one can do some real damage with 1/2 a megawatt of
RF. So, it's possible that some electrosensitive people in the
vicinity of these transmitters might have been affected by the RF.

As for the mention of RADAR, the author is obviously lacking in RF
expertise and probably meant high power naval shore stations intended
to communicate with ocean going vessels.

The problem I have with the author is his assertion that if two events
roughly coincide, then one must have caused the other. Coincidence is
not proof of causation. Yet, that's the basis of his entire argument
relating RF and viral pandemics.

Also, please don't assume that everyone involved in RF health effects
is a lunatic. Last month, I attended a talk by Dr Karl Maret on what
was essentially the possible health effects of 5G. Video of the talk:
Future of Wireless & Its Health Effects
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVnUJFAoudU> (2 hrs long)
I was pleasantly surprised that he was quite knowledgeable about RF,
RF associated buzzwords, acronyms, and cellular radio terminology.
More:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dr+karl+maret
http://www.emfawaresc.org
There was also a link to the slides used in his presentation, but I
can't seem to find it right now. His main point is that there has
been little or no research into possible health effects caused by 5G,
and that it should not be deployed without additional research. It
was an interesting talk, but was ruined (for me) because of the
lunatic fringe it attracted. I was also surprised that a fairly large
number of the attendees asked questions involving various maladies and
illnesses and whether these might be attributable to RF exposure.

Is 5G high power? What is especially harmful about 5G?

What is different about 5G is the frequency. In discussions in a UK group they talk about it including bands well above the 5 GHz we use for cell phones and other devices.

As the frequency increases we do need to consider that at some point it may start interacting differently with human tissues. Chemistry does have effects due to specific wavelengths of radiation. For sure we will find any harmful effects that may exist if we start selling people millions and billions of radiators. But it will take a while.

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[David Brown]

On 19/03/2020 17:07, Rick C wrote:

On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 5:19:02 AM UTC-4,
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:


Is 5G high power? What is especially harmful about 5G?

What is different about 5G is the frequency. In discussions in a UK
group they talk about it including bands well above the 5 GHz we use
for cell phones and other devices.

As the frequency increases we do need to consider that at some point
it may start interacting differently with human tissues. Chemistry
does have effects due to specific wavelengths of radiation. For sure
we will find any harmful effects that may exist if we start selling
people millions and billions of radiators. But it will take a
while.

Certainly it is important to consider if the higher frequencies are
likely to have detrimental effects. That is why they /have/ been
considered, and tested. So far, nothing conclusive has been found -
either in terms of test results or theoretical methods of harm - for 5G
frequencies. Of course there will be problems if the signals are strong
enough (then you get heating in the manner of a microwave oven). But
since there are many more 5G bases than 3G or 4G bases, the signals are
in fact a good deal lower power.

As you say, time will tell. Well, it /might/ tell. Testing and
deployment can reveal that there /are/ health problems from 5G, but they
can't show that there are none.

All we know for sure is that there will be countless crackpots (and some
perfectly sane scammers) who claim they get health problems from 5G.
These will be some of the same people that think they are sensitive to WiFi.

And we know there will be lots of people who think the best idea is to
be prudent and wait until we know more - which sounds very sensible at
first sight. But such scepticism can also backfire - it is the same
thing that gives people such an exaggerated fear of radiation, and means
we kill huge numbers of people with coal smoke to avoid a miniscule
increased risk of cancer in a few people. There are no simple answers.

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 2020-03-19 13:21, David Brown wrote:

On 19/03/2020 17:07, Rick C wrote:
On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 5:19:02 AM UTC-4,
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:


Is 5G high power? What is especially harmful about 5G?

What is different about 5G is the frequency.  In discussions in a UK
group they talk about it including bands well above the 5 GHz we use
for cell phones and other devices.

As the frequency increases we do need to consider that at some point
it may start interacting differently with human tissues.  Chemistry
does have effects due to specific wavelengths of radiation.  For sure
we will find any harmful effects that may exist if we start selling
people millions and billions of radiators.  But it will take a
while.


Certainly it is important to consider if the higher frequencies are
likely to have detrimental effects.  That is why they /have/ been
considered, and tested.  So far, nothing conclusive has been found -
either in terms of test results or theoretical methods of harm - for 5G
frequencies.  Of course there will be problems if the signals are strong
enough (then you get heating in the manner of a microwave oven).  But
since there are many more 5G bases than 3G or 4G bases, the signals are
in fact a good deal lower power.

As you say, time will tell.  Well, it /might/ tell.  Testing and
deployment can reveal that there /are/ health problems from 5G, but they
can't show that there are none.

All we know for sure is that there will be countless crackpots (and some
perfectly sane scammers) who claim they get health problems from 5G.
These will be some of the same people that think they are sensitive to
WiFi.

And we know there will be lots of people who think the best idea is to
be prudent and wait until we know more - which sounds very sensible at
first sight.  But such scepticism can also backfire - it is the same
thing that gives people such an exaggerated fear of radiation, and means
we kill huge numbers of people with coal smoke to avoid a miniscule
increased risk of cancer in a few people.  There are no simple answers.

If radar technicians aren't dropping like flies, the rest of us have
very little to worry about.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

[Rick C]

On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 12:11:57 PM UTC-4, piglet wrote:

On 19/03/2020 16:07, Rick C wrote:
What is different about 5G is the frequency. In discussions in a UK group they talk about it including bands well above the 5 GHz we use for cell phones and other devices.

As the frequency increases we do need to consider that at some point it may start interacting differently with human tissues. Chemistry does have effects due to specific wavelengths of radiation. For sure we will find any harmful effects that may exist if we start selling people millions and billions of radiators. But it will take a while.


5G can also include frequencies around 700MHz from clearing the old TV
bands.

What you say is true.

--

Rick C.

+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 1:23:27 PM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:

On 2020-03-19 13:21, David Brown wrote:
On 19/03/2020 17:07, Rick C wrote:
On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 5:19:02 AM UTC-4,
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:


Is 5G high power? What is especially harmful about 5G?

What is different about 5G is the frequency.  In discussions in a UK
group they talk about it including bands well above the 5 GHz we use
for cell phones and other devices.

As the frequency increases we do need to consider that at some point
it may start interacting differently with human tissues.  Chemistry
does have effects due to specific wavelengths of radiation.  For sure
we will find any harmful effects that may exist if we start selling
people millions and billions of radiators.  But it will take a
while.


Certainly it is important to consider if the higher frequencies are
likely to have detrimental effects.  That is why they /have/ been
considered, and tested.  So far, nothing conclusive has been found -
either in terms of test results or theoretical methods of harm - for 5G
frequencies.  Of course there will be problems if the signals are strong
enough (then you get heating in the manner of a microwave oven).  But
since there are many more 5G bases than 3G or 4G bases, the signals are
in fact a good deal lower power.

As you say, time will tell.  Well, it /might/ tell.  Testing and
deployment can reveal that there /are/ health problems from 5G, but they
can't show that there are none.

All we know for sure is that there will be countless crackpots (and some
perfectly sane scammers) who claim they get health problems from 5G.
These will be some of the same people that think they are sensitive to
WiFi.

And we know there will be lots of people who think the best idea is to
be prudent and wait until we know more - which sounds very sensible at
first sight.  But such skepticism can also backfire - it is the same
thing that gives people such an exaggerated fear of radiation, and means
we kill huge numbers of people with coal smoke to avoid a miniscule
increased risk of cancer in a few people.  There are no simple answers.


If radar technicians aren't dropping like flies, the rest of us have
very little to worry about.

Have you ever worked on RADAR, or at a RADAR site? I did both, in the early '70s. The main system was a pair of 2MW Westinghouse systems at Cairn Airfield, outside of Ft Rucker. The rest were portable systems left over from the Korean war era. Those were the ones that I had to service when the RADAR section was short handed. I did so well that they tried to have me transferred from the Weathervision support section before finished the week.

I also worked at a transmitter site that generated 95 KW of UHF RF, and it had a 5MW EIRP from the antenna. It didn't affect my health.