Amazing building system is 100% electric, with integrated technology and the potential to spread across multiple building sectors...

[Fred Bloggs]

Totally powered by rooftop solar, which has to be high efficiency.

The electrical is only half the story. The other half is amazing materials and building technology:

\"The Vessel system is 100% electric; solar panels affixed to the rooftop deliver all of the power required for occupants. With the company’s aim for sustainability, Vessel uses no paint and instead utilizes a proprietary recyclable wall panel system. According to Vessel, its facade system is also twice as energy efficient as built-to-code alternatives.\"

\"The software—utilizing the company’s own operating system, vOS—acts as a virtual “super” that monitors the building’s hardware, energy demands, and water usage. Additionally, the system includes hundreds of sensors and electro-mechanical devices to manage a unit’s temperature, air quality, security, lighting, and entertainment systems, according to Vessel.\"

https://www.bdcnetwork.com/lennar-mastry-ventures-make-multi-million-dollar-investment-net-zero-prefab-homes

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 16:34:40 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

Totally powered by rooftop solar, which has to be high efficiency.

The electrical is only half the story. The other half is amazing materials and building technology:

\"The Vessel system is 100% electric; solar panels affixed to the rooftop deliver all of the power required for occupants. With the company’s aim for sustainability, Vessel uses no paint and instead utilizes a proprietary recyclable wall panel system. According to Vessel, its facade system is also twice as energy efficient as built-to-code alternatives.\"

\"The software—utilizing the company’s own operating system, vOS—acts as a virtual “super” that monitors the building’s hardware, energy demands, and water usage. Additionally, the system includes hundreds of sensors and electro-mechanical devices to manage a unit’s temperature, air quality, security, lighting, and entertainment systems, according to Vessel.\"

https://www.bdcnetwork.com/lennar-mastry-ventures-make-multi-million-dollar-investment-net-zero-prefab-homes

Does it snow in Connecticut?

 

[Tabby]

On Saturday, 8 July 2023 at 00:34:45 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:

Totally powered by rooftop solar, which has to be high efficiency.

The electrical is only half the story. The other half is amazing materials and building technology:

\"The Vessel system is 100% electric; solar panels affixed to the rooftop deliver all of the power required for occupants. With the company’s aim for sustainability, Vessel uses no paint and instead utilizes a proprietary recyclable wall panel system. According to Vessel, its facade system is also twice as energy efficient as built-to-code alternatives.\"

\"The software—utilizing the company’s own operating system, vOS—acts as a virtual “super” that monitors the building’s hardware, energy demands, and water usage. Additionally, the system includes hundreds of sensors and electro-mechanical devices to manage a unit’s temperature, air quality, security, lighting, and entertainment systems, according to Vessel.\"

https://www.bdcnetwork.com/lennar-mastry-ventures-make-multi-million-dollar-investment-net-zero-prefab-homes

So it has a mass of extra automation gizmos and a costly PV system, yes is more affordable? Is that credible?

\"The company’s building materials are sustainable, fire-resistant, \"

so not fireproof, ie flammable.

\"The software—utilizing the company’s own operating system, vOS—

so the whole thing, which should last a century or more, is dependant on an OS owned by one company that odds are will vanish without trace. Not loving that.


\"acts as a virtual “super” that monitors the building’s hardware, energy demands, and water usage. Additionally, the system includes hundreds of sensors and electro-mechanical devices to manage a unit’s temperature, air quality, security, lighting, \"

ok, if the programming is sensible, which is very often not the case. Until it fails. Then what?


\"and entertainment systems, according to Vessel.\"

it\'s going to mess with our entertainment? No thanks.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 7:25:27 PM UTC-4, Tabby wrote:

On Saturday, 8 July 2023 at 00:34:45 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:

Totally powered by rooftop solar, which has to be high efficiency.

The electrical is only half the story. The other half is amazing materials and building technology:

\"The Vessel system is 100% electric; solar panels affixed to the rooftop deliver all of the power required for occupants. With the company’s aim for sustainability, Vessel uses no paint and instead utilizes a proprietary recyclable wall panel system. According to Vessel, its facade system is also twice as energy efficient as built-to-code alternatives.\"

\"The software—utilizing the company’s own operating system, vOS—acts as a virtual “super” that monitors the building’s hardware, energy demands, and water usage. Additionally, the system includes hundreds of sensors and electro-mechanical devices to manage a unit’s temperature, air quality, security, lighting, and entertainment systems, according to Vessel.\"

https://www.bdcnetwork.com/lennar-mastry-ventures-make-multi-million-dollar-investment-net-zero-prefab-homes
So it has a mass of extra automation gizmos and a costly PV system, yes is more affordable? Is that credible?

\"The company’s building materials are sustainable, fire-resistant, \"

so not fireproof, ie flammable.
\"The software—utilizing the company’s own operating system, vOS—
so the whole thing, which should last a century or more, is dependant on an OS owned by one company that odds are will vanish without trace. Not loving that.
\"acts as a virtual “super” that monitors the building’s hardware, energy demands, and water usage. Additionally, the system includes hundreds of sensors and electro-mechanical devices to manage a unit’s temperature, air quality, security, lighting, \"
ok, if the programming is sensible, which is very often not the case. Until it fails. Then what?
\"and entertainment systems, according to Vessel.\"
it\'s going to mess with our entertainment? No thanks.

I like the self-sufficient energy generation since these are probably being built in areas with rolling blackouts.

As for the supervisor environmental control, which I assume adjusts parameters like heat, cooling, humidity, air quality filtration and \"healthy\" air levels, security/ emergency (fire) monitoring, I suspect it is a collection of off the shelf sensors (Honeywell), and the total control is merely a smart thermostat with cell phone internet. There are many businesses that provide these kinds of monitoring and control services, and there doesn\'t seem to be an epidemic of abandonment.

Fireproofing is rarely attained in building. The main goal is to achieve fire resistance, by which they mean the material suppresses spread and provides the occupants ample time to evacuate before the fire spreads. Time frame of such materials can be hours.

The architects were obviously adherents to the minimal sustainability material usage principle of ~600sf living space per occupant, and as a result the interior layouts are somewhat cramped compared to what most people are used to. No hallways for examples, traversing from point A to point B involves going through room to room. I\'m seeing this kind of thing more and more now.

 

[Tabby]

On Sunday, 9 July 2023 at 14:24:45 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:

On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 7:25:27 PM UTC-4, Tabby wrote:
On Saturday, 8 July 2023 at 00:34:45 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:

Totally powered by rooftop solar, which has to be high efficiency.

The electrical is only half the story. The other half is amazing materials and building technology:

\"The Vessel system is 100% electric; solar panels affixed to the rooftop deliver all of the power required for occupants. With the company’s aim for sustainability, Vessel uses no paint and instead utilizes a proprietary recyclable wall panel system. According to Vessel, its facade system is also twice as energy efficient as built-to-code alternatives.\"

\"The software—utilizing the company’s own operating system, vOS—acts as a virtual “super” that monitors the building’s hardware, energy demands, and water usage. Additionally, the system includes hundreds of sensors and electro-mechanical devices to manage a unit’s temperature, air quality, security, lighting, and entertainment systems, according to Vessel.\"

https://www.bdcnetwork.com/lennar-mastry-ventures-make-multi-million-dollar-investment-net-zero-prefab-homes
So it has a mass of extra automation gizmos and a costly PV system, yes is more affordable? Is that credible?

\"The company’s building materials are sustainable, fire-resistant, \"

so not fireproof, ie flammable.
\"The software—utilizing the company’s own operating system, vOS—
so the whole thing, which should last a century or more, is dependant on an OS owned by one company that odds are will vanish without trace. Not loving that.
\"acts as a virtual “super” that monitors the building’s hardware, energy demands, and water usage. Additionally, the system includes hundreds of sensors and electro-mechanical devices to manage a unit’s temperature, air quality, security, lighting, \"
ok, if the programming is sensible, which is very often not the case. Until it fails. Then what?
\"and entertainment systems, according to Vessel.\"
it\'s going to mess with our entertainment? No thanks.
I like the self-sufficient energy generation since these are probably being built in areas with rolling blackouts.

Either it\'s a far more reliable setup than a power station, which is most unlikely & excessively expensive, or it will create its own rolling blackouts.


> As for the supervisor environmental control, which I assume adjusts parameters like heat, cooling, humidity, air quality filtration and \"healthy\" air levels, security/ emergency (fire) monitoring, I suspect it is a collection of off the shelf sensors (Honeywell), and the total control is merely a smart thermostat with cell phone internet. There are many businesses that provide these kinds of monitoring and control services, and there doesn\'t seem to be an epidemic of abandonment.

who knows if that\'s what it is. If it is, would you expect a system of that ind made 40 or 50 years ago to still be working? And thus will this one keep working? It borders on impossible.


> Fireproofing is rarely attained in building. The main goal is to achieve fire resistance, by which they mean the material suppresses spread and provides the occupants ample time to evacuate before the fire spreads. Time frame of such materials can be hours.

Sure. So no upside there
The whole set of claims is just unrealistic.


> The architects were obviously adherents to the minimal sustainability material usage principle of ~600sf living space per occupant, and as a result the interior layouts are somewhat cramped compared to what most people are used to. No hallways for examples, traversing from point A to point B involves going through room to room. I\'m seeing this kind of thing more and more now.

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 8:09:00 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

Does it snow in Connecticut?

Or hail?

https://truthpress.com/news/major-hail-storm-destroys-an-entire-solar-farm-taking-down-a-communitys-power-sources/

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 8:09:00 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 16:34:40 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

Totally powered by rooftop solar, which has to be high efficiency.

The electrical is only half the story. The other half is amazing materials and building technology:

\"The Vessel system is 100% electric; solar panels affixed to the rooftop deliver all of the power required for occupants. With the company’s aim for sustainability, Vessel uses no paint and instead utilizes a proprietary recyclable wall panel system. According to Vessel, its facade system is also twice as energy efficient as built-to-code alternatives.\"

\"The software—utilizing the company’s own operating system, vOS—acts as a virtual “super” that monitors the building’s hardware, energy demands, and water usage. Additionally, the system includes hundreds of sensors and electro-mechanical devices to manage a unit’s temperature, air quality, security, lighting, and entertainment systems, according to Vessel.\"

https://www.bdcnetwork.com/lennar-mastry-ventures-make-multi-million-dollar-investment-net-zero-prefab-homes
Does it snow in Connecticut?

It used to snow quite a lot. Connecticut has a marine climate. The word gives away there\'s water involved. It used to be the winter snows wouldn\'t start melting for real until April. Then depending on where in the state, places get deathly in cold by mid-September. Lakes were frozen over by early November. That\'s probably all changed now. The sky is more overcast than not, not sure if it\'s the best place for solar. New London is right on the water, the weather should be mostly unenjoyable.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Sunday, July 9, 2023 at 3:12:32 PM UTC-4, Tabby wrote:

On Sunday, 9 July 2023 at 14:24:45 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 7:25:27 PM UTC-4, Tabby wrote:
On Saturday, 8 July 2023 at 00:34:45 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:

Totally powered by rooftop solar, which has to be high efficiency.

The electrical is only half the story. The other half is amazing materials and building technology:

\"The Vessel system is 100% electric; solar panels affixed to the rooftop deliver all of the power required for occupants. With the company’s aim for sustainability, Vessel uses no paint and instead utilizes a proprietary recyclable wall panel system. According to Vessel, its facade system is also twice as energy efficient as built-to-code alternatives.\"

\"The software—utilizing the company’s own operating system, vOS—acts as a virtual “super” that monitors the building’s hardware, energy demands, and water usage. Additionally, the system includes hundreds of sensors and electro-mechanical devices to manage a unit’s temperature, air quality, security, lighting, and entertainment systems, according to Vessel.\"

https://www.bdcnetwork.com/lennar-mastry-ventures-make-multi-million-dollar-investment-net-zero-prefab-homes
So it has a mass of extra automation gizmos and a costly PV system, yes is more affordable? Is that credible?

\"The company’s building materials are sustainable, fire-resistant, \"

so not fireproof, ie flammable.
\"The software—utilizing the company’s own operating system, vOS—
so the whole thing, which should last a century or more, is dependant on an OS owned by one company that odds are will vanish without trace. Not loving that.
\"acts as a virtual “super” that monitors the building’s hardware, energy demands, and water usage. Additionally, the system includes hundreds of sensors and electro-mechanical devices to manage a unit’s temperature, air quality, security, lighting, \"
ok, if the programming is sensible, which is very often not the case. Until it fails. Then what?
\"and entertainment systems, according to Vessel.\"
it\'s going to mess with our entertainment? No thanks.
I like the self-sufficient energy generation since these are probably being built in areas with rolling blackouts.
Either it\'s a far more reliable setup than a power station, which is most unlikely & excessively expensive, or it will create its own rolling blackouts.
As for the supervisor environmental control, which I assume adjusts parameters like heat, cooling, humidity, air quality filtration and \"healthy\" air levels, security/ emergency (fire) monitoring, I suspect it is a collection of off the shelf sensors (Honeywell), and the total control is merely a smart thermostat with cell phone internet. There are many businesses that provide these kinds of monitoring and control services, and there doesn\'t seem to be an epidemic of abandonment.
who knows if that\'s what it is. If it is, would you expect a system of that ind made 40 or 50 years ago to still be working? And thus will this one keep working? It borders on impossible.
Fireproofing is rarely attained in building. The main goal is to achieve fire resistance, by which they mean the material suppresses spread and provides the occupants ample time to evacuate before the fire spreads. Time frame of such materials can be hours.
Sure. So no upside there
The whole set of claims is just unrealistic.
The architects were obviously adherents to the minimal sustainability material usage principle of ~600sf living space per occupant, and as a result the interior layouts are somewhat cramped compared to what most people are used to. No hallways for examples, traversing from point A to point B involves going through room to room. I\'m seeing this kind of thing more and more now.

You\'re being overly cynical. these people want their business to be successful, and that means happy customers. The staff probably has many decades of combined experience in the industry, and they know what works and what doesn\'t work.

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 10 Jul 2023 10:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 8:09:00?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 16:34:40 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

Totally powered by rooftop solar, which has to be high efficiency.

The electrical is only half the story. The other half is amazing materials and building technology:

\"The Vessel system is 100% electric; solar panels affixed to the rooftop deliver all of the power required for occupants. With the company’s aim for sustainability, Vessel uses no paint and instead utilizes a proprietary recyclable wall panel system. According to Vessel, its facade system is also twice as energy efficient as built-to-code alternatives.\"

\"The software—utilizing the company’s own operating system, vOS—acts as a virtual “super” that monitors the building’s hardware, energy demands, and water usage. Additionally, the system includes hundreds of sensors and electro-mechanical devices to manage a unit’s temperature, air quality, security, lighting, and entertainment systems, according to Vessel.\"

https://www.bdcnetwork.com/lennar-mastry-ventures-make-multi-million-dollar-investment-net-zero-prefab-homes
Does it snow in Connecticut?

It used to snow quite a lot. Connecticut has a marine climate. The word gives away there\'s water involved. It used to be the winter snows wouldn\'t start melting for real until April. Then depending on where in the state, places get deathly in cold by mid-September. Lakes were frozen over by early November. That\'s probably all changed now. The sky is more overcast than not, not sure if it\'s the best place for solar. New London is right on the water, the weather should be mostly unenjoyable.

Actually, I recall that I know a guy who works for Pratt, in Hartford,
and he lives nearby. He has a long driveway and one garage full of
serious snow removal machinery.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 1:53:04 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Mon, 10 Jul 2023 10:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 8:09:00?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 16:34:40 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

Totally powered by rooftop solar, which has to be high efficiency.

The electrical is only half the story. The other half is amazing materials and building technology:

\"The Vessel system is 100% electric; solar panels affixed to the rooftop deliver all of the power required for occupants. With the company’s aim for sustainability, Vessel uses no paint and instead utilizes a proprietary recyclable wall panel system. According to Vessel, its facade system is also twice as energy efficient as built-to-code alternatives.\"

\"The software—utilizing the company’s own operating system, vOS—acts as a virtual “super” that monitors the building’s hardware, energy demands, and water usage. Additionally, the system includes hundreds of sensors and electro-mechanical devices to manage a unit’s temperature, air quality, security, lighting, and entertainment systems, according to Vessel.\"

https://www.bdcnetwork.com/lennar-mastry-ventures-make-multi-million-dollar-investment-net-zero-prefab-homes
Does it snow in Connecticut?

It used to snow quite a lot. Connecticut has a marine climate. The word gives away there\'s water involved. It used to be the winter snows wouldn\'t start melting for real until April. Then depending on where in the state, places get deathly in cold by mid-September. Lakes were frozen over by early November. That\'s probably all changed now. The sky is more overcast than not, not sure if it\'s the best place for solar. New London is right on the water, the weather should be mostly unenjoyable.
Actually, I recall that I know a guy who works for Pratt, in Hartford,
and he lives nearby. He has a long driveway and one garage full of
serious snow removal machinery.

Connecticut is mild compared to farther up north in New York and northern New England. They pretty much enjoyed Ice Age weather until the late 70s. Now I\'m reading the heat is killing people in Maine, they\'re scrambling for heat pump A/C. That would have been science fiction speculation not too long ago. Things are moving fast.

 

[Tabby]

On Monday, 10 July 2023 at 18:40:43 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:

On Sunday, July 9, 2023 at 3:12:32 PM UTC-4, Tabby wrote:
On Sunday, 9 July 2023 at 14:24:45 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 7:25:27 PM UTC-4, Tabby wrote:
On Saturday, 8 July 2023 at 00:34:45 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:

Totally powered by rooftop solar, which has to be high efficiency..

The electrical is only half the story. The other half is amazing materials and building technology:

\"The Vessel system is 100% electric; solar panels affixed to the rooftop deliver all of the power required for occupants. With the company’s aim for sustainability, Vessel uses no paint and instead utilizes a proprietary recyclable wall panel system. According to Vessel, its facade system is also twice as energy efficient as built-to-code alternatives.\"

\"The software—utilizing the company’s own operating system, vOS—acts as a virtual “super” that monitors the building’s hardware, energy demands, and water usage. Additionally, the system includes hundreds of sensors and electro-mechanical devices to manage a unit’s temperature, air quality, security, lighting, and entertainment systems, according to Vessel.\"

https://www.bdcnetwork.com/lennar-mastry-ventures-make-multi-million-dollar-investment-net-zero-prefab-homes
So it has a mass of extra automation gizmos and a costly PV system, yes is more affordable? Is that credible?

\"The company’s building materials are sustainable, fire-resistant, \"

so not fireproof, ie flammable.
\"The software—utilizing the company’s own operating system, vOS—
so the whole thing, which should last a century or more, is dependant on an OS owned by one company that odds are will vanish without trace. Not loving that.
\"acts as a virtual “super” that monitors the building’s hardware, energy demands, and water usage. Additionally, the system includes hundreds of sensors and electro-mechanical devices to manage a unit’s temperature, air quality, security, lighting, \"
ok, if the programming is sensible, which is very often not the case. Until it fails. Then what?
\"and entertainment systems, according to Vessel.\"
it\'s going to mess with our entertainment? No thanks.
I like the self-sufficient energy generation since these are probably being built in areas with rolling blackouts.
Either it\'s a far more reliable setup than a power station, which is most unlikely & excessively expensive, or it will create its own rolling blackouts.
As for the supervisor environmental control, which I assume adjusts parameters like heat, cooling, humidity, air quality filtration and \"healthy\" air levels, security/ emergency (fire) monitoring, I suspect it is a collection of off the shelf sensors (Honeywell), and the total control is merely a smart thermostat with cell phone internet. There are many businesses that provide these kinds of monitoring and control services, and there doesn\'t seem to be an epidemic of abandonment.
who knows if that\'s what it is. If it is, would you expect a system of that ind made 40 or 50 years ago to still be working? And thus will this one keep working? It borders on impossible.
Fireproofing is rarely attained in building. The main goal is to achieve fire resistance, by which they mean the material suppresses spread and provides the occupants ample time to evacuate before the fire spreads. Time frame of such materials can be hours.
Sure. So no upside there
The whole set of claims is just unrealistic.
The architects were obviously adherents to the minimal sustainability material usage principle of ~600sf living space per occupant, and as a result the interior layouts are somewhat cramped compared to what most people are used to. No hallways for examples, traversing from point A to point B involves going through room to room. I\'m seeing this kind of thing more and more now.
You\'re being overly cynical.

no, just pointing the semi-obvious

> these people want their business to be successful, and that means happy customers.

really it means investment & sales, hence all the bs claimed

> The staff probably has many decades of combined experience in the industry, and they know what works and what doesn\'t work.

and they know to a fair extent how unrealistic their sales spiel is. But they\'re not going to tell you. This is business basics. Construction basics can establish there is pork flying.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 6:58:24 PM UTC-4, Tabby wrote:

On Monday, 10 July 2023 at 18:40:43 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Sunday, July 9, 2023 at 3:12:32 PM UTC-4, Tabby wrote:
On Sunday, 9 July 2023 at 14:24:45 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 7:25:27 PM UTC-4, Tabby wrote:
On Saturday, 8 July 2023 at 00:34:45 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:

Totally powered by rooftop solar, which has to be high efficiency.

The electrical is only half the story. The other half is amazing materials and building technology:

\"The Vessel system is 100% electric; solar panels affixed to the rooftop deliver all of the power required for occupants. With the company’s aim for sustainability, Vessel uses no paint and instead utilizes a proprietary recyclable wall panel system. According to Vessel, its facade system is also twice as energy efficient as built-to-code alternatives.\"

\"The software—utilizing the company’s own operating system, vOS—acts as a virtual “super” that monitors the building’s hardware, energy demands, and water usage. Additionally, the system includes hundreds of sensors and electro-mechanical devices to manage a unit’s temperature, air quality, security, lighting, and entertainment systems, according to Vessel.\"

https://www.bdcnetwork.com/lennar-mastry-ventures-make-multi-million-dollar-investment-net-zero-prefab-homes
So it has a mass of extra automation gizmos and a costly PV system, yes is more affordable? Is that credible?

\"The company’s building materials are sustainable, fire-resistant, \"

so not fireproof, ie flammable.
\"The software—utilizing the company’s own operating system, vOS—
so the whole thing, which should last a century or more, is dependant on an OS owned by one company that odds are will vanish without trace. Not loving that.
\"acts as a virtual “super” that monitors the building’s hardware, energy demands, and water usage. Additionally, the system includes hundreds of sensors and electro-mechanical devices to manage a unit’s temperature, air quality, security, lighting, \"
ok, if the programming is sensible, which is very often not the case. Until it fails. Then what?
\"and entertainment systems, according to Vessel.\"
it\'s going to mess with our entertainment? No thanks.
I like the self-sufficient energy generation since these are probably being built in areas with rolling blackouts.
Either it\'s a far more reliable setup than a power station, which is most unlikely & excessively expensive, or it will create its own rolling blackouts.
As for the supervisor environmental control, which I assume adjusts parameters like heat, cooling, humidity, air quality filtration and \"healthy\" air levels, security/ emergency (fire) monitoring, I suspect it is a collection of off the shelf sensors (Honeywell), and the total control is merely a smart thermostat with cell phone internet. There are many businesses that provide these kinds of monitoring and control services, and there doesn\'t seem to be an epidemic of abandonment.
who knows if that\'s what it is. If it is, would you expect a system of that ind made 40 or 50 years ago to still be working? And thus will this one keep working? It borders on impossible.
Fireproofing is rarely attained in building. The main goal is to achieve fire resistance, by which they mean the material suppresses spread and provides the occupants ample time to evacuate before the fire spreads. Time frame of such materials can be hours.
Sure. So no upside there
The whole set of claims is just unrealistic.
The architects were obviously adherents to the minimal sustainability material usage principle of ~600sf living space per occupant, and as a result the interior layouts are somewhat cramped compared to what most people are used to. No hallways for examples, traversing from point A to point B involves going through room to room. I\'m seeing this kind of thing more and more now.
You\'re being overly cynical.
no, just pointing the semi-obvious
these people want their business to be successful, and that means happy customers.
really it means investment & sales, hence all the bs claimed
The staff probably has many decades of combined experience in the industry, and they know what works and what doesn\'t work.
and they know to a fair extent how unrealistic their sales spiel is. But they\'re not going to tell you. This is business basics. Construction basics can establish there is pork flying.

Their designs look pretty custom to me. They\'re going for what\'s called urban infill. That means they\'re most likely genuine. You might have a case if it was some mass production scale sell for big developer speculative construction. This one is not of that type.

 

[a a]

On Saturday, 8 July 2023 at 02:09:00 UTC+2, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 16:34:40 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

Totally powered by rooftop solar, which has to be high efficiency.

The electrical is only half the story. The other half is amazing materials and building technology:

\"The Vessel system is 100% electric; solar panels affixed to the rooftop deliver all of the power required for occupants. With the company’s aim for sustainability, Vessel uses no paint and instead utilizes a proprietary recyclable wall panel system. According to Vessel, its facade system is also twice as energy efficient as built-to-code alternatives.\"

\"The software—utilizing the company’s own operating system, vOS—acts as a virtual “super” that monitors the building’s hardware, energy demands, and water usage. Additionally, the system includes hundreds of sensors and electro-mechanical devices to manage a unit’s temperature, air quality, security, lighting, and entertainment systems, according to Vessel.\"

https://www.bdcnetwork.com/lennar-mastry-ventures-make-multi-million-dollar-investment-net-zero-prefab-homes
Does it snow in Connecticut?

--\"The Vessel system is 100% electric; solar panels affixed to the rooftop deliver all of the power required for occupants

marketing fake

in the winter time, efficiency of solar panels is reduced by 80% to 20%
delivering only a fraction of power required by the occupants

 

[a a]

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