Alternator Question

[Tsunami]

If hooked up to a high speed (hopefully quiete) electric motor (12v)
would/should a standard car alternator normally be able to run itself + some
extra amperage (hopefully 20a)?

 

[Grog]

"Tsunami" <glenoriley@yahoo.despam.com.au> wrote in message
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If hooked up to a high speed (hopefully quiete) electric motor (12v)
would/should a standard car alternator normally be able to run itself +
some
extra amperage (hopefully 20a)?

 

[Trevor Wilson]

"Tsunami" <glenoriley@yahoo.despam.com.au> wrote in message
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If hooked up to a high speed (hopefully quiete) electric motor (12v)
would/should a standard car alternator normally be able to run itself +
some
extra amperage (hopefully 20a)?

**Not in this universe.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

 

[Russ]

Tsunami wrote:

If hooked up to a high speed (hopefully quiete) electric motor (12v)
would/should a standard car alternator normally be able to run itself
+ some extra amperage (hopefully 20a)?

Sure, but only if it's a *really* fast motor, which probably won't be very
quiet unfortunately - you might be able to wrap it in foam, or some
newspapers perhaps.

The alternator will need to be a 24v unit from a truck or similar so you
have some volts left over from driving the motor.

Good luck!

 

[Trevor Wilson]

"Russ" <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Tsunami wrote:
If hooked up to a high speed (hopefully quiete) electric motor (12v)
would/should a standard car alternator normally be able to run itself
+ some extra amperage (hopefully 20a)?

Sure, but only if it's a *really* fast motor, which probably won't be very
quiet unfortunately - you might be able to wrap it in foam, or some
newspapers perhaps.

The alternator will need to be a 24v unit from a truck or similar so you
have some volts left over from driving the motor.

Good luck!

**I don't see a smiley anywhere. I can only conclude that you are as stupid
as the original poster.

Take your idea down to the patent office. See how far you get.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

 

[Gregory Toomey]

Tsunami wrote:

If hooked up to a high speed (hopefully quiete) electric motor (12v)
would/should a standard car alternator normally be able to run itself +
some extra amperage (hopefully 20a)?

12V X 20A = 240 Watts. Try using a small petrol-powered generator instead.

gtoomey

 

[John_H]

Tsunami wrote:

If hooked up to a high speed (hopefully quiete) electric motor (12v)
would/should a standard car alternator normally be able to run itself + some
extra amperage (hopefully 20a)?

Should handle it easily, but you'll need to run the motor backwards
for at least 15 minutes every hour -- depending on the conversion
efficiency. Assuming of course that the motor is powered by an
accumulator (car battery for example).

A chain drive with pedals attached might be the way to go.

--
John H

 

[Marty Wallace]

"Tsunami" <glenoriley@yahoo.despam.com.au> wrote in message
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If hooked up to a high speed (hopefully quiete) electric motor (12v)
would/should a standard car alternator normally be able to run itself +
some
extra amperage (hopefully 20a)?

Have a look at the data plate if it has one. It should have a current rating
on it. Or you could find the manual for the car that it came from.
20 Amps doesn't sound excessive for a car alternator.

Marty

 

[Ken Taylor]

"Marty Wallace" <mart@geo.net.au> wrote in message
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"Tsunami" <glenoriley@yahoo.despam.com.au> wrote in message
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If hooked up to a high speed (hopefully quiete) electric motor (12v)
would/should a standard car alternator normally be able to run itself +
some
extra amperage (hopefully 20a)?



Have a look at the data plate if it has one. It should have a current
rating
on it. Or you could find the manual for the car that it came from.
20 Amps doesn't sound excessive for a car alternator.

Marty


Read the OP again. He actually wants to make a perpetual motion machine. An

admirable goal, albeit pointless.

Ken

 

[atec]

Tsunami wrote:

If hooked up to a high speed (hopefully quiete) electric motor (12v)
would/should a standard car alternator normally be able to run itself + some
extra amperage (hopefully 20a)?
No , what comes out requires more to go in , input 2kw = output depends

on efficiency but maybe 1500 watts.. sorry not going to be perpetual .

--
X-No-Archive: Yes

 

[Marty Wallace]

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"Marty Wallace" <mart@geo.net.au> wrote in message
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"Tsunami" <glenoriley@yahoo.despam.com.au> wrote in message
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If hooked up to a high speed (hopefully quiete) electric motor (12v)
would/should a standard car alternator normally be able to run itself
+
some
extra amperage (hopefully 20a)?



Have a look at the data plate if it has one. It should have a current
rating
on it. Or you could find the manual for the car that it came from.
20 Amps doesn't sound excessive for a car alternator.

Marty


Read the OP again. He actually wants to make a perpetual motion machine.
An
admirable goal, albeit pointless.

Ken


Ahh. Ok.

I thought he had just badly worded the question and assumed he wanted to run
a alternator off a motor.

A simple way to generate endless energy is to ask a silly question on a news
group and watch the hot heads burn perpetually. If anything the argument
increases exponentialy and snowballs.

Marty again.

 

[GM]

Ken Taylor wrote:

"Marty Wallace" <mart@geo.net.au> wrote in message
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"Tsunami" <glenoriley@yahoo.despam.com.au> wrote in message
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If hooked up to a high speed (hopefully quiete) electric motor (12v)
would/should a standard car alternator normally be able to run itself +

some

extra amperage (hopefully 20a)?



Have a look at the data plate if it has one. It should have a current

rating

on it. Or you could find the manual for the car that it came from.
20 Amps doesn't sound excessive for a car alternator.

Marty



Read the OP again. He actually wants to make a perpetual motion machine. An
admirable goal, albeit pointless.

Ken

"IN THIS HOUSE WE OBEY THE LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS!!!!!"

Couldn't reist -
Homer Simpson on Lisa's perpetual motion machine.

Cheers
Giles

 

[Russ]

Trevor Wilson wrote:

"Russ" <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Tsunami wrote:
If hooked up to a high speed (hopefully quiete) electric motor (12v)
would/should a standard car alternator normally be able to run
itself + some extra amperage (hopefully 20a)?

Sure, but only if it's a *really* fast motor, which probably won't
be very quiet unfortunately - you might be able to wrap it in foam,
or some newspapers perhaps.

The alternator will need to be a 24v unit from a truck or similar so
you have some volts left over from driving the motor.

Good luck!

**I don't see a smiley anywhere. I can only conclude that you are as
stupid as the original poster.

Take your idea down to the patent office. See how far you get.

If he does make lots of money, and the universe doesn't explode 'cause he
buggered up the conservation of energy thing, I want my cut of the dosh for
my truck alternator idea.

 

[Albm&ctd]

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 00:37:27 +1000, "Tsunami"
<glenoriley@yahoo.despam.com.au> wrote:

If hooked up to a high speed (hopefully quiete) electric motor (12v)
would/should a standard car alternator normally be able to run itself + some
extra amperage (hopefully 20a)?

If you used a 12v motor that was big enough to run an alternator, say

35 amp alternator and use the output to charge the battery powering
the 12v motor, you would invent a rapid battery flattening device.

Perhaps you should get into wind power if you have a brother called
typhoon.

Al
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