all this spam

[Bob Monsen]

I've been off doing other things for a year or two, and have recently been
monitoring this group again. The spam problem is much worse than it was.
Does anybody have a good algorithm for marking it, or a suggestion for a
program to do that without generating too many false positives? It makes the
group much harder to read.

Thanks,
Bob Monsen

 

[JeffM]

Bob Monsen wrote:
Nope. It's a manual process--but there's hope:

Kill off the entire IP range that includes the offending IP address
(which will also get any dynamically-assigned dial-up IPs).
That will block the domains of ignorant/lazy/greedy/rogue providers
from China, India, Pakistan, Indonesia, Yugoslavia, Malaysia,
Mexico, Cuba, Israel...
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.arch.embedded/browse_frm/thread/ac0b76c26c8fda35/b700072ba8f516aa?q=*-*-Posting-Host-header+zz+*-*-*-*-*-site-with-better-filters+zz-zz+delete-those+*-*-more-than-a-threshold-*
news:fjeim7$74n$1@eskinews.eskimo.com

That's the easiest part (and the bulk of the for-profit junk)
--and you might spite your face in the process.

....then you have to filter out the specific IPs of those assholes
using ignorant/lazy/greedy/rogue First-World providers
(Verizon, Comcast, RoadRunner, etc.)
--without nuking the guys you still want to read.

 

[Eeyore]

Bob Monsen wrote:

I've been off doing other things for a year or two, and have recently been
monitoring this group again. The spam problem is much worse than it was.

Really ?

There's hardly any IMHO. Almost all of it comes through Google Groups btw.

Graham

 

[Rich Webb]

Eeyore wrote:

Bob Monsen wrote:

I've been off doing other things for a year or two, and have recently been
monitoring this group again. The spam problem is much worse than it was.

Really ?

There's hardly any IMHO. Almost all of it comes through Google Groups btw.

A lot of the groups are being bombarded by hundreds of sporged postings,
which makes it damned difficult to see the real traffic.

It seems, from the discussions I've seen, that many (most?) ISP-hosted
news servers just pipe their incoming feeds to their usenet trees
without any filtering and some (many? most?) commercial usenet
providers take more care with their product and *do* takes measures
to de-sporge the contents.

So depending on how you get the group, you may get several hundred
forged postings every day (or hour!) or you may not see any.

See http://www.warezfaq.com/dealing_with_sporge.htm for a discussion
of sporgery and a pointer to an app that can be installed as a local
news filter if one's current client's filtering could use some help.

--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA

 

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 04:13:44 GMT, "Bob Monsen" <rcmonsen@gmail.com>
wrote:

I've been off doing other things for a year or two, and have recently been
monitoring this group again. The spam problem is much worse than it was.
Does anybody have a good algorithm for marking it, or a suggestion for a
program to do that without generating too many false positives? It makes the
group much harder to read.

Thanks,
Bob Monsen

Do you see a lot of spam? I don't. I use Supernews, and they seem to
nuke the spam pretty well.

John

 

[radiosrfun]

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
news:04jpp31g00tfrv1b5khb10fmtvgnd302tr@4ax.com...

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 04:13:44 GMT, "Bob Monsen" <rcmonsen@gmail.com
wrote:

I've been off doing other things for a year or two, and have recently been
monitoring this group again. The spam problem is much worse than it was.
Does anybody have a good algorithm for marking it, or a suggestion for a
program to do that without generating too many false positives? It makes
the
group much harder to read.

Thanks,
Bob Monsen



Do you see a lot of spam? I don't. I use Supernews, and they seem to
nuke the spam pretty well.

John

An ISP I used to be with - carryed News Groups - for a while, then said it
cost him over $2000 per year to do so - making it non profitable for him.
However - before he cut them out - and I dropped him due to that and price -
I often engaged in "News Groups" - as I have in the recent past. Oddly
enough - some dick reported me to him for "creating an issue" - which was
nothing more than an opinion - much as I've posted anywhere - here or in
other groups - lately. Then this dick calls me to say he's coming to my
house - which I was waiting for. I welcomed his visit. Smith and Wesson love
company! He didn't have the balls to show up. That same asshole was causing
trouble for many others (locally) in the group. Maybe someone else took care
of him!

So - the ISP writes ME to say he doesn't care about the "news groups" one
way or another - he knew the troublesome people who could be found there -
but tells me to cool it anyway. That was about 5 months or so before he
dropped them.

I called around for another ISP who covered News Groups. The one I'm with -
said they didn't - even though their ad stated such - but yet here I am!
Anyway - they have decent service - so - so be it. Filtering - well - being
they said they don't "cover" the "News Groups" - they'll probably not give
any "filtering" either. I just block the assholes when they get to be a
pain.

So - some ISPs apparently DO filter - some don't. It is a pain in the ass to
see all those Chinese and so on - knock off ads - but like a news paper - I
change pages - when nothing appears interesting.

I've never delved into "complete" filtering - maybe sometime I'll do that.
Til then, block as needed.

I do see - that a very irritating spammer - M15 or whoever - has seemingly
disappeared!

 

[radiosrfun]

"radiosrfun" <radiosrfun@radiosrfun.com> wrote in message:

An ISP I used to be with - carryed News Groups - for a while, then said it
cost him over $2000 per year to do so - making it non profitable for him.
as needed.

Ooops - my bad - carryed shoud be "carried"!

 

[Bob Monsen]

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
news:04jpp31g00tfrv1b5khb10fmtvgnd302tr@4ax.com...

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 04:13:44 GMT, "Bob Monsen" <rcmonsen@gmail.com
wrote:

I've been off doing other things for a year or two, and have recently been
monitoring this group again. The spam problem is much worse than it was.
Does anybody have a good algorithm for marking it, or a suggestion for a
program to do that without generating too many false positives? It makes
the
group much harder to read.

Thanks,
Bob Monsen



Do you see a lot of spam? I don't. I use Supernews, and they seem to
nuke the spam pretty well.

John

I'm getting it through sbcglobal.net now. There is quite a bit.

Regards,
Bob Monsen