Agilent LogicWave OS Compatibility

[mkaras]

I have an Agilent LogicWave PC hosted logic analyzer. The device and
its software are very nice and useful. However I have found that the
Host software cannot properly connect and operate the logic analyzer
device when the host OS is Win2K or WinXP? (It always worked great
under Win98).

Does anyone here have any knowlwdge or experience with this device as
to whether there is ever a chance to see it operate with the newer
operating systems? I would like to try to amortize my $3200 investment
in this thing over a few more years.

- mkaras

 

[Keyser Soze]

"mkaras" <mkaras@CarouselDesign.com> wrote in message news:1159818683.071365.289040@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

I have an Agilent LogicWave PC hosted logic analyzer. The device and
its software are very nice and useful. However I have found that the
Host software cannot properly connect and operate the logic analyzer
device when the host OS is Win2K or WinXP? (It always worked great
under Win98).

Does anyone here have any knowlwdge or experience with this device as
to whether there is ever a chance to see it operate with the newer
operating systems? I would like to try to amortize my $3200 investment
in this thing over a few more years.

- mkaras

Try version 1.21 of the E9340A LogicWave Application software.

Web page (very long link):

http://www.home.agilent.com/agilent/editorial.jspx?cc=US&lc=eng&ckey=1000000223:epsg:sud&nid=-536902557.536880599.02&id=1000000223:epsg:sud

File (very long link):

http://www.home.agilent.com/agilent/redirector.jspx?action=doc&lc=eng&cc=US&id=1000000223-1%3Aepsg%3Asud&ltype=External%20File

 

[mkaras]

Keyser Soze wrote:

"mkaras" <mkaras@CarouselDesign.com> wrote in message news:1159818683.071365.289040@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I have an Agilent LogicWave PC hosted logic analyzer. The device and
its software are very nice and useful. However I have found that the
Host software cannot properly connect and operate the logic analyzer
device when the host OS is Win2K or WinXP? (It always worked great
under Win98).

Does anyone here have any knowlwdge or experience with this device as
to whether there is ever a chance to see it operate with the newer
operating systems? I would like to try to amortize my $3200 investment
in this thing over a few more years.

- mkaras


Try version 1.21 of the E9340A LogicWave Application software.

Web page (very long link):

http://www.home.agilent.com/agilent/editorial.jspx?cc=US&lc=eng&ckey=1000000223:epsg:sud&nid=-536902557.536880599.02&id=1000000223:epsg:sud

File (very long link):

http://www.home.agilent.com/agilent/redirector.jspx?action=doc&lc=eng&cc=US&id=1000000223-1%3Aepsg%3Asud&ltype=External%20File

Version 1.21 is the version I have tried again and again for a long
while now.

- mkaras

 

[Keyser Soze]

"mkaras" <mkaras@CarouselDesign.com> wrote in message news:1159821912.848206.299790@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...

Keyser Soze wrote:
"mkaras" <mkaras@CarouselDesign.com> wrote in message news:1159818683.071365.289040@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I have an Agilent LogicWave PC hosted logic analyzer. The device and
its software are very nice and useful. However I have found that the
Host software cannot properly connect and operate the logic analyzer
device when the host OS is Win2K or WinXP? (It always worked great
under Win98).

Does anyone here have any knowlwdge or experience with this device as
to whether there is ever a chance to see it operate with the newer
operating systems? I would like to try to amortize my $3200 investment
in this thing over a few more years.

- mkaras


Try version 1.21 of the E9340A LogicWave Application software.

Web page (very long link):

http://www.home.agilent.com/agilent/editorial.jspx?cc=US&lc=eng&ckey=1000000223:epsg:sud&nid=-536902557.536880599.02&id=1000000223:epsg:sud

File (very long link):

http://www.home.agilent.com/agilent/redirector.jspx?action=doc&lc=eng&cc=US&id=1000000223-1%3Aepsg%3Asud&ltype=External%20File

Version 1.21 is the version I have tried again and again for a long
while now.

- mkaras

The E9340A uses only the parallel port to communicate with the desktop.

From my experience not all desktop or laptop parallel ports work correctly with all combinations of operating systems and drivers.

One system I have, a Compaq Presario desktop, the port works great in Win98 but will not work with NT, 2K, or XP. To get it to work
at all with XP I had to add another PCI parallel port card to the system. Now XP will not boot up if I have a parallel cable
attached to the port. Note that I mean just the cable. No device is connected to the other end of the cable.

You may be having the same kind of issue with your parallel port.

The software available on the Agilent web site is version A.01.21.020305.

It this the same version as you are using?

 

[mkaras]

Keyser Soze wrote:

"mkaras" <mkaras@CarouselDesign.com> wrote in message news:1159821912.848206.299790@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...

Keyser Soze wrote:
"mkaras" <mkaras@CarouselDesign.com> wrote in message news:1159818683.071365.289040@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I have an Agilent LogicWave PC hosted logic analyzer. The device and
its software are very nice and useful. However I have found that the
Host software cannot properly connect and operate the logic analyzer
device when the host OS is Win2K or WinXP? (It always worked great
under Win98).

Does anyone here have any knowlwdge or experience with this device as
to whether there is ever a chance to see it operate with the newer
operating systems? I would like to try to amortize my $3200 investment
in this thing over a few more years.

- mkaras


Try version 1.21 of the E9340A LogicWave Application software.

Web page (very long link):

http://www.home.agilent.com/agilent/editorial.jspx?cc=US&lc=eng&ckey=1000000223:epsg:sud&nid=-536902557.536880599.02&id=1000000223:epsg:sud

File (very long link):

http://www.home.agilent.com/agilent/redirector.jspx?action=doc&lc=eng&cc=US&id=1000000223-1%3Aepsg%3Asud&ltype=External%20File

Version 1.21 is the version I have tried again and again for a long
while now.

- mkaras

The E9340A uses only the parallel port to communicate with the desktop.

From my experience not all desktop or laptop parallel ports work correctly with all combinations of operating systems and drivers.

One system I have, a Compaq Presario desktop, the port works great in Win98 but will not work with NT, 2K, or XP. To get it to work
at all with XP I had to add another PCI parallel port card to the system. Now XP will not boot up if I have a parallel cable
attached to the port. Note that I mean just the cable. No device is connected to the other end of the cable.

You may be having the same kind of issue with your parallel port.

The software available on the Agilent web site is version A.01.21.020305.

It this the same version as you are using?

My software installation on this WinXP machine is the same exact
version that you have mentioned as available from the Agilent web site.
(i.e. A.01.21.020305).

You have not directly stated whether you are actually using the
LogicWave unit with WinXP. Instead you talk about the parallel port
itself being functional or not. Could you please clarify this point?

I have tried this LogicWave thing on three desktop computers and a
notebook under Win98 and had all of them work correctly. When I updated
computers and resident OS's in recent years to years to Win2K & XP the
LogicWave compatibility was lost. One Gateway desktop actually worked
with LogicWave with Win98 installed and then quit working when Win2K
was installed. For a while, when that computer was still in service, I
had it setup in a dual-boot configuration just so it could be used for
LogicWave. As it stands today my three lab computers are running Win2K
and WinXP and LogicWave has been unavailable for use for a long while
now.

I posted this note to hopefully find somwone else who has a LogicWave
and has maybe seen it work successfully with these newer OS platforms.
If there is some chance then I could take steps to figure out how to
make it work. Otherwise I might as well list the unit for sale on eBay.

- mkaras

 

[Keyser Soze]

"mkaras" <mkaras@CarouselDesign.com> wrote in message news:1159830701.118026.324400@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Keyser Soze wrote:
"mkaras" <mkaras@CarouselDesign.com> wrote in message news:1159821912.848206.299790@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...

Keyser Soze wrote:
"mkaras" <mkaras@CarouselDesign.com> wrote in message news:1159818683.071365.289040@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I have an Agilent LogicWave PC hosted logic analyzer. The device and
its software are very nice and useful. However I have found that the
Host software cannot properly connect and operate the logic analyzer
device when the host OS is Win2K or WinXP? (It always worked great
under Win98).

Does anyone here have any knowlwdge or experience with this device as
to whether there is ever a chance to see it operate with the newer
operating systems? I would like to try to amortize my $3200 investment
in this thing over a few more years.

- mkaras


Try version 1.21 of the E9340A LogicWave Application software.

Web page (very long link):

http://www.home.agilent.com/agilent/editorial.jspx?cc=US&lc=eng&ckey=1000000223:epsg:sud&nid=-536902557.536880599.02&id=1000000223:epsg:sud

File (very long link):

http://www.home.agilent.com/agilent/redirector.jspx?action=doc&lc=eng&cc=US&id=1000000223-1%3Aepsg%3Asud&ltype=External%20File

Version 1.21 is the version I have tried again and again for a long
while now.

- mkaras

The E9340A uses only the parallel port to communicate with the desktop.

From my experience not all desktop or laptop parallel ports work correctly with all combinations of operating systems and
drivers.

One system I have, a Compaq Presario desktop, the port works great in Win98 but will not work with NT, 2K, or XP. To get it to
work
at all with XP I had to add another PCI parallel port card to the system. Now XP will not boot up if I have a parallel cable
attached to the port. Note that I mean just the cable. No device is connected to the other end of the cable.

You may be having the same kind of issue with your parallel port.

The software available on the Agilent web site is version A.01.21.020305.

It this the same version as you are using?

My software installation on this WinXP machine is the same exact
version that you have mentioned as available from the Agilent web site.
(i.e. A.01.21.020305).

You have not directly stated whether you are actually using the
LogicWave unit with WinXP. Instead you talk about the parallel port
itself being functional or not. Could you please clarify this point?

I have tried this LogicWave thing on three desktop computers and a
notebook under Win98 and had all of them work correctly. When I updated
computers and resident OS's in recent years to years to Win2K & XP the
LogicWave compatibility was lost. One Gateway desktop actually worked
with LogicWave with Win98 installed and then quit working when Win2K
was installed. For a while, when that computer was still in service, I
had it setup in a dual-boot configuration just so it could be used for
LogicWave. As it stands today my three lab computers are running Win2K
and WinXP and LogicWave has been unavailable for use for a long while
now.

I posted this note to hopefully find somwone else who has a LogicWave
and has maybe seen it work successfully with these newer OS platforms.
If there is some chance then I could take steps to figure out how to
make it work. Otherwise I might as well list the unit for sale on eBay.

- mkaras

I do not have the LogicWave anymore and cannot remember if I ever got it to work with 2K or XP.

A legacy parallel port driver may have issues with an OS like 2K or XP.

In any case the Agilent web site claims support is available until 2009. They may have some better information on how to get it to
work with XP.

I have gotten some legacy applications to work better in XP by launching then from a full screen setup of the CMD shell.

Also check to be certain that XP sees the parallel port as ECP, or Standard. If XP recognized the parallel port as EPP then you will
have problems.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I just found this document on the Agilent web site:

http://www.home.agilent.com/upload/cmc_upload/All/LogicWave.pdf

This seems to have some very useful tips on gettint the parallel port to work.

It appears the LogicWave needs and IRQ associated with the parallel port.

Windows XP does not normally enable interrupts for parallel ports.

 

[mkaras]

Keyser Soze wrote:

I just found this document on the Agilent web site:

http://www.home.agilent.com/upload/cmc_upload/All/LogicWave.pdf

This seems to have some very useful tips on gettint the parallel port to work.

It appears the LogicWave needs and IRQ associated with the parallel port.

Windows XP does not normally enable interrupts for parallel ports.

Thanks for referring to the PDF support and Diagnostic checklist for
LogicWave. I will try out some of the things there and see if I can get
the thing to wake up on my newest computers.

I'll report back with progress later.

- mkaras

BTW...did you have the LogicWave through work at a former job or
something? If it was yours may I ask why you unloaded it?

I have always and forever been disappointed with Agilent because of
their back tracking on promises to provide USB support for this
product. I was promised that it would be available a few months after I
purchased the unit and guess what...It never happened.

- mkaras

 

[Keyser Soze]

"mkaras" <mkaras@CarouselDesign.com> wrote in message
news:1159846421.997601.239450@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Keyser Soze wrote:
I just found this document on the Agilent web site:

http://www.home.agilent.com/upload/cmc_upload/All/LogicWave.pdf

This seems to have some very useful tips on gettint the parallel port to
work.

It appears the LogicWave needs and IRQ associated with the parallel port.

Windows XP does not normally enable interrupts for parallel ports.

Thanks for referring to the PDF support and Diagnostic checklist for
LogicWave. I will try out some of the things there and see if I can get
the thing to wake up on my newest computers.

I'll report back with progress later.

- mkaras

BTW...did you have the LogicWave through work at a former job or
something? If it was yours may I ask why you unloaded it?

I have always and forever been disappointed with Agilent because of
their back tracking on promises to provide USB support for this
product. I was promised that it would be available a few months after I
purchased the unit and guess what...It never happened.

- mkaras

We got the LogicWave as a rental and it was good enough for the first

project we used it on. The next project required significantly more than 34
channels so we sent it back to the rental company.

I suspect that the LogicWave got caught in a turf battle at Agilent. The
portable guys (1670 and 1680) saw it encroaching on the low end and the
marketing guys saw that other products were taking shots at the 34 channel
USB interfaced niche at a much lower price point. There's one now at $389
from Intronix.

See: http://www.pctestinstruments.com/iindex.htm

So maybe Agilent decided to abandoned the low end because the "perceived
value" had been moved too low.

 

[mkaras]

Keyser Soze wrote:

"mkaras" <mkaras@CarouselDesign.com> wrote in message
news:1159846421.997601.239450@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Keyser Soze wrote:
I just found this document on the Agilent web site:

http://www.home.agilent.com/upload/cmc_upload/All/LogicWave.pdf

This seems to have some very useful tips on gettint the parallel port to
work.

It appears the LogicWave needs and IRQ associated with the parallel port.

Windows XP does not normally enable interrupts for parallel ports.

Thanks for referring to the PDF support and Diagnostic checklist for
LogicWave. I will try out some of the things there and see if I can get
the thing to wake up on my newest computers.

I'll report back with progress later.

- mkaras

BTW...did you have the LogicWave through work at a former job or
something? If it was yours may I ask why you unloaded it?

I have always and forever been disappointed with Agilent because of
their back tracking on promises to provide USB support for this
product. I was promised that it would be available a few months after I
purchased the unit and guess what...It never happened.

- mkaras

We got the LogicWave as a rental and it was good enough for the first
project we used it on. The next project required significantly more than 34
channels so we sent it back to the rental company.

I suspect that the LogicWave got caught in a turf battle at Agilent. The
portable guys (1670 and 1680) saw it encroaching on the low end and the
marketing guys saw that other products were taking shots at the 34 channel
USB interfaced niche at a much lower price point. There's one now at $389
from Intronix.

See: http://www.pctestinstruments.com/iindex.htm

So maybe Agilent decided to abandoned the low end because the "perceived
value" had been moved too low.

Sorry....but that product looks like a hobby toy piece of junk as
compared to the very professional job done by the team at HP/Agilent
that made the LogicWave. Too bad they couldn't keep their creation from
being killed by the market.

Although that "sample compression" feature is a good idea the 2K sample
depth is pathetic. RAM is so cheap and fast these days I wonder why
they dont put at least a mega samples in these things. Many many many
times that I've used the LogicWave even its 128K sample buffer was a
limiting factor.

BTW....following the clues in the Agilent installation notes guide led
to NO success with trying to make my unit work with WinXP. Next I'll
apply the same ideas to a company notebook I have and see if there is
more success with that.

- mkaras

 

[labguy]

You are quite wrong about the product from Intronix
(http://www.pctestinstruments.com).
We went looking for a replacement after realizing, like everyone in
this post, that Agilent
had discontinued support for our LogicWave. We came across the Intronix
LA1034 and like
you we were a bit skeptical. We decided to give it a try because at
$389 it's almost free
compared to a new Agilent product. Much to our delight it turned out to
be quite a fine
product - very high quality, with very professional software (which IS
supported in XP SP2
and even in Vista). The Intronix unit has more sophisticated triggering
and higher
sample rates than the LogicWave. Its small buffer is not the issue you
seem to think.
The compression feature is pretty impressive. We have often captured
millions of samples
in a single acquisition. That's something our old (now defunct) Agilent
LogicWave couldn't
dream of. The point of compression is that much of the time a
traditional analyzer is just
stuffing its buffer with copies of identical data. You can quickly use
up the 128K of memory
in the LogicWave with hardly any useful data captured. The Intronix
product doesn't do that.
It only consumes buffer space when signals change. I think Tektronix
calls that
"Transitional Sampling". We liked the LA1034 so much that we ended up
buying 5 more
for our department. We are still not up to the price of just one new
Agilent product!

Agilent's slogan these days seems to be "Sorry, that's obsolete". Viva
la bean counters!
We are really starting to get annoyed with them. I don't know how you
can call them
"very professional". It seems to me they are leaving the door open to
competition from
small companies who will support their products, and who actually care
about their customers!

James Carr

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[Keyser Soze]

"mkaras" <mkaras@CarouselDesign.com> wrote in message
news:1159846421.997601.239450@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Keyser Soze wrote:
I just found this document on the Agilent web site:

http://www.home.agilent.com/upload/cmc_upload/All/LogicWave.pdf

This seems to have some very useful tips on gettint the parallel port to
work.

It appears the LogicWave needs and IRQ associated with the parallel port.

Windows XP does not normally enable interrupts for parallel ports.

Thanks for referring to the PDF support and Diagnostic checklist for
LogicWave. I will try out some of the things there and see if I can get
the thing to wake up on my newest computers.

I'll report back with progress later.

- mkaras

I was looking around on the Agilent ftp site and found they have released a

new driver for the LogicWave (E9340A).

See of the LogicWave_WinXPSP2.zip at
ftp://ftp.agilent.com/pub/callpub3/ddt/portbls/e9340a does what you need.