Active-HDL 6.1 pricing

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Allan Herriman

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Hi,

Does anyone know how much Aldec Active-HDL 6.1 costs?
I emailed Aldec, but they didn't bother to reply.

Regards,
Allan.
 
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:24:06 +1100, Allan Herriman
<allan.herriman.hates.spam@ctam.com.au.invalid> wrote:

Hi,

Does anyone know how much Aldec Active-HDL 6.1 costs?
I emailed Aldec, but they didn't bother to reply.
haha! http://www.eedesign.com/story/OEG20031022S0026

"Active-HDL pricing starts at $5,900."
 
In article <q1chrvkpa2kejv3ttbidg2fv3ach5hd9bu@4ax.com>, Allan
Herriman <allan.herriman.hates.spam@ctam.com.au.invalid> writes
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:24:06 +1100, Allan Herriman
allan.herriman.hates.spam@ctam.com.au.invalid> wrote:

Hi,

Does anyone know how much Aldec Active-HDL 6.1 costs?
I emailed Aldec, but they didn't bother to reply.

haha! http://www.eedesign.com/story/OEG20031022S0026

"Active-HDL pricing starts at $5,900."

Was about to give you a link to the UK distis, but then noticed you're no
longer there. Couldn't really imagine agilent jumping ship from Modelsim
anyway ;-)
--
fred
 
Would you mind me asking why considering Aldec?

"Allan Herriman" <allan.herriman.hates.spam@ctam.com.au.invalid> wrote in
message news:q1chrvkpa2kejv3ttbidg2fv3ach5hd9bu@4ax.com...
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:24:06 +1100, Allan Herriman
allan.herriman.hates.spam@ctam.com.au.invalid> wrote:

Hi,

Does anyone know how much Aldec Active-HDL 6.1 costs?
I emailed Aldec, but they didn't bother to reply.

haha! http://www.eedesign.com/story/OEG20031022S0026

"Active-HDL pricing starts at $5,900."
 
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:26:39 GMT, "Stratus Engineer"
<mjd03003@yahoo.com> wrote:

Would you mind me asking why considering Aldec?
I'm looking for a simulation tool that (1) works and (2) handles the
current version of Verilog (& pref. VHDL as well) and (3) doesn't have
a size limit (or crippled simulation speed) and (4) doesn't cost too
much.

There's not as much choice as I had first hoped.

I'm currently using Icarus (which fails on points 1 and 2).
I've considered various versions of Modelsim (which fail on either
point 3 or point 4).
I've considered Riviera (which fails on point 4).

Aldec seems like a logical next step. Any other suggestions?

Regards,
Allan.
 
Allan Herriman wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:26:39 GMT, "Stratus Engineer"
mjd03003@yahoo.com> wrote:

Would you mind me asking why considering Aldec?

I'm looking for a simulation tool that (1) works and (2) handles the
current version of Verilog (& pref. VHDL as well) and (3) doesn't have
a size limit (or crippled simulation speed) and (4) doesn't cost too
much.

There's not as much choice as I had first hoped.

I'm currently using Icarus (which fails on points 1 and 2).
I've considered various versions of Modelsim (which fail on either
point 3 or point 4).
I've considered Riviera (which fails on point 4).

Aldec seems like a logical next step. Any other suggestions?

Regards,
Allan.
I have used ModelSim in a couple of jobs as well as part of the low cost
or free tools that X and A offer(ed). I contacted Aldec about their
simulator since I expected it to be much cheaper. Sadly, it is not and
in fact is a bit more expensive. So if ModelSim fails on point 4, then
Aldec will too (along with most of the others).

On the other hand, many of the simulations I do run just fine with the
speed crippling, so I am ok for the moment.

Have you looked at any of the open source tools? Is that what Icarus
is? I am not familiar with them, but I know they exist.

--

Rick "rickman" Collins

rick.collins@XYarius.com
Ignore the reply address. To email me use the above address with the XY
removed.

Arius - A Signal Processing Solutions Company
Specializing in DSP and FPGA design URL http://www.arius.com
4 King Ave 301-682-7772 Voice
Frederick, MD 21701-3110 301-682-7666 FAX
 
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:27:22 -0500, rickman <spamgoeshere4@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Have you looked at any of the open source tools? Is that what Icarus
is? I am not familiar with them, but I know they exist.
Yes, I am looking at commercial software because I am currently using
an open source tool (Icarus).

My experience is that "open source" isn't necessarily the same as
"good quality" when applied to EDA tools - both the developer and the
user communities are just too small to achieve quality comparable with
commercial EDA tools (or Linux, for that matter).

I wish that someone could prove me wrong!

Regards,
Allan.
 
Hi Allan,

Have you looked at Symphony EDA? It is 10% of Aldec's cost. I use
Aldec, but Symphony looks promising to me (I started using it a week
ago). It's interface is very similar, but it does not have all the
bells and whistles of Active-HDL.

-- Pete

Allan Herriman <allan.herriman.hates.spam@ctam.com.au.invalid> wrote in message news:<g62jrvopslpsj5tpdfmi978imnp7cuo9s2@4ax.com>...
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:27:22 -0500, rickman <spamgoeshere4@yahoo.com
wrote:

Have you looked at any of the open source tools? Is that what Icarus
is? I am not familiar with them, but I know they exist.

Yes, I am looking at commercial software because I am currently using
an open source tool (Icarus).

My experience is that "open source" isn't necessarily the same as
"good quality" when applied to EDA tools - both the developer and the
user communities are just too small to achieve quality comparable with
commercial EDA tools (or Linux, for that matter).

I wish that someone could prove me wrong!

Regards,
Allan.
 
Oops, looking through the thread I see you want a Verilog sim.
Symphony is only VHDL.

-- Pete

Allan Herriman <allan.herriman.hates.spam@ctam.com.au.invalid> wrote in message news:<g62jrvopslpsj5tpdfmi978imnp7cuo9s2@4ax.com>...
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:27:22 -0500, rickman <spamgoeshere4@yahoo.com
wrote:

Have you looked at any of the open source tools? Is that what Icarus
is? I am not familiar with them, but I know they exist.

Yes, I am looking at commercial software because I am currently using
an open source tool (Icarus).

My experience is that "open source" isn't necessarily the same as
"good quality" when applied to EDA tools - both the developer and the
user communities are just too small to achieve quality comparable with
commercial EDA tools (or Linux, for that matter).

I wish that someone could prove me wrong!

Regards,
Allan.
 
Downlad a trial from Altec. This prevents you from ascking stupd questions.
 
On 18 Nov 2003 07:53:10 -0800, petersommerfeld@hotmail.com (Peter
Sommerfeld) wrote:

Oops, looking through the thread I see you want a Verilog sim.
Symphony is only VHDL.
Symphony is a good example though.

A one-year node-locked license of the "Standard" version costs US$199.
There doesn't seem to be any comparable Verilog simulator in that
price range.

Regards,
Allan.
 
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:02:59 +0200, "Valentin Tihomirov"
<valentin@abelectron.com> wrote:

Downlad a trial from Altec. This prevents you from ascking stupd questions.
Was that directed at me or Rick? Which questions were "stupd" ?

Allan.
 
"Allan Herriman" <allan.herriman.hates.spam@ctam.com.au.invalid> wrote in
message news:h2klrvs2rsdl9r2s3co2slnmp0kh7kvl66@4ax.com...
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:02:59 +0200, "Valentin Tihomirov"
valentin@abelectron.com> wrote:

Downlad a trial from Altec. This prevents you from ascking stupd
questions.

Was that directed at me or Rick? Which questions were "stupd" ?

Allan.
Hi Allan,

Your thread is quite informative. Don't pay attention to such rough letters.

Valeri.
 
There are plenty of us who would like to use a nice low cost tool such
as this, if it works well. Please keep us informed of any issues you
find.


Peter Sommerfeld wrote:
Hi Allan,

Have you looked at Symphony EDA? It is 10% of Aldec's cost. I use
Aldec, but Symphony looks promising to me (I started using it a week
ago). It's interface is very similar, but it does not have all the
bells and whistles of Active-HDL.

-- Pete

Allan Herriman <allan.herriman.hates.spam@ctam.com.au.invalid> wrote in message news:<g62jrvopslpsj5tpdfmi978imnp7cuo9s2@4ax.com>...
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:27:22 -0500, rickman <spamgoeshere4@yahoo.com
wrote:

Have you looked at any of the open source tools? Is that what Icarus
is? I am not familiar with them, but I know they exist.

Yes, I am looking at commercial software because I am currently using
an open source tool (Icarus).

My experience is that "open source" isn't necessarily the same as
"good quality" when applied to EDA tools - both the developer and the
user communities are just too small to achieve quality comparable with
commercial EDA tools (or Linux, for that matter).

I wish that someone could prove me wrong!

Regards,
Allan.
--

Rick "rickman" Collins

rick.collins@XYarius.com
Ignore the reply address. To email me use the above address with the XY
removed.

Arius - A Signal Processing Solutions Company
Specializing in DSP and FPGA design URL http://www.arius.com
4 King Ave 301-682-7772 Voice
Frederick, MD 21701-3110 301-682-7666 FAX
 

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