Acing lacing

Spehro Pefhany · May 13, 2004

This skill used to be a lot more common. It doesn't take long to do an
entire harness if you are good at it. (from another newsgroup):

http://www.tpub.com/neets/book4/12p.htm

http://www.tecratools.com/pages/tecalert/cable_lacing.html

http://www.dairiki.org/hammond/cable-lacing-howto

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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CFoley1064 · May 13, 2004

Subject: Acing lacing
From: Spehro Pefhany speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat
Date: 5/13/2004 7:20 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id: <ecq6a0h6tc827tp3ntfhf7opg8m4f222f6@4ax.com

This skill used to be a lot more common. It doesn't take long to do an
entire harness if you are good at it. (from another newsgroup):

http://www.tpub.com/neets/book4/12p.htm

http://www.tecratools.com/pages/tecalert/cable_lacing.html

http://www.dairiki.org/hammond/cable-lacing-howto

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

From the Tecra Tools link...

"Too much time was spent on the install leaving no time for the aesthetic
pleasure of creating these shapely yet time intensive organized bundles."

Waxing (!) poetic about lacing! ROTFL! I wish I could say my fingers were
laughing, too. They still remember, and they don't think it's funny at all.

Thanks
Chris

Richard Henry · May 13, 2004

"Spehro Pefhany" <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote in message
news:ecq6a0h6tc827tp3ntfhf7opg8m4f222f6@4ax.com...

This skill used to be a lot more common. It doesn't take long to do an
entire harness if you are good at it. (from another newsgroup):

http://www.tpub.com/neets/book4/12p.htm

http://www.tecratools.com/pages/tecalert/cable_lacing.html

http://www.dairiki.org/hammond/cable-lacing-howto

This was still being taught to USN electronics techs when I went through "A"
school in 1969. By the time I got out to a Fleet assignement, it was
quickly replaced by nylon zip-ties.

Active8 · May 13, 2004

On Thu, 13 May 2004 12:20:55 GMT, Spehro Pefhany wrote:

This skill used to be a lot more common. It doesn't take long to do an
entire harness if you are good at it. (from another newsgroup):

http://www.tpub.com/neets/book4/12p.htm

http://www.tecratools.com/pages/tecalert/cable_lacing.html

http://www.dairiki.org/hammond/cable-lacing-howto

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Absolutely beautiful! The one link even names the knots. I like
knots and knotty pines.

I know a guy who did boy scouts and 4 in the Navy and can't name his
knots or tie a proper square knot. Pretty lame IMO.
--
Best Regards,
Mike

Don Pearce · May 13, 2004

On Thu, 13 May 2004 12:20:55 GMT, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

This skill used to be a lot more common. It doesn't take long to do an
entire harness if you are good at it. (from another newsgroup):

http://www.tpub.com/neets/book4/12p.htm

http://www.tecratools.com/pages/tecalert/cable_lacing.html

http://www.dairiki.org/hammond/cable-lacing-howto

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

I still have a large reel of waxed lacing cord in my toolbox! Haven't
used it for a very long time, though.

d

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http://www.pearce.uk.com

Jim Thompson · May 13, 2004

On Thu, 13 May 2004 17:05:13 +0100, Don Pearce <complete@nonsense.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 13 May 2004 12:20:55 GMT, Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

This skill used to be a lot more common. It doesn't take long to do an
entire harness if you are good at it. (from another newsgroup):

http://www.tpub.com/neets/book4/12p.htm

http://www.tecratools.com/pages/tecalert/cable_lacing.html

http://www.dairiki.org/hammond/cable-lacing-howto

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

I still have a large reel of waxed lacing cord in my toolbox! Haven't
used it for a very long time, though.

d

I have been known to _plait_ bundles of three or four ;-)

My wife worked (1960-61) at Honeywell Datamatic in the Boston area
making harnesses. Used to come every night fuming about dumb-ass
Tufts engineers who couldn't measure right, harness didn't fit, so
they'd have her make it over to _exactly_the_same_dimensions_ ;-)

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Greg Neff · May 13, 2004

On Thu, 13 May 2004 12:20:55 GMT, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

This skill used to be a lot more common. It doesn't take long to do an
entire harness if you are good at it. (from another newsgroup):

http://www.tpub.com/neets/book4/12p.htm

http://www.tecratools.com/pages/tecalert/cable_lacing.html

http://www.dairiki.org/hammond/cable-lacing-howto

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Lacing cord has not been completely displaced by tie wraps, so lacing
is still a good skill to learn. Another application: DIP ICs mounted
in sockets must be restrained in transportation applications. Nylon
tie wraps are prohibited because they are stiff enough to potentially
damage plastic IC packages. Some lacing cord and a reef knot does the
job.

What can you do when you live in a shoe?
Move to a boot and get laced.

================================

Greg Neff
VP Engineering
*Microsym* Computers Inc.
greg@guesswhichwordgoeshere.com

Andrew VK3BFA · May 13, 2004

Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote in message news:<ecq6a0h6tc827tp3ntfhf7opg8m4f222f6@4ax.com>...

This skill used to be a lot more common. It doesn't take long to do an
entire harness if you are good at it. (from another newsgroup):

http://www.tpub.com/neets/book4/12p.htm

http://www.tecratools.com/pages/tecalert/cable_lacing.html

http://www.dairiki.org/hammond/cable-lacing-howto

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Yep, its a beautiful thing to do to complete a job - a real
aesthetic(sp) process. Trubble is, it caused heaps of problems with
plastic insulated cable - a process known as "cold flow" where the
lacing twine displaced the conductor insulation. So the waxed twine
was banned (its fine for lead cables...). There was a solid core PVC
material twine, but havent seen any for years - and it too depends on
the skill of the lacee (new word?) not to do it too tight.

The same applies to nylon cable ties - reef them up too tight and you
do the same, particularly trubblesome if you are securing against a
metal bracket....

73 de VK3BFA Andrew

PS - I was taught lacing at trade school, spent dozens of hours
learning a now redundant skill ( along with wiping lead cable and
paper twist jointing...)

Richard Henry · May 14, 2004

"Andrew VK3BFA" <ablight@alphalink.com.au> wrote in message
news:1fc7b362.0405131611.5cc5eeff@posting.google.com...

Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote in message
news:<ecq6a0h6tc827tp3ntfhf7opg8m4f222f6@4ax.com>...
This skill used to be a lot more common. It doesn't take long to do an
entire harness if you are good at it. (from another newsgroup):

http://www.tpub.com/neets/book4/12p.htm

http://www.tecratools.com/pages/tecalert/cable_lacing.html

http://www.dairiki.org/hammond/cable-lacing-howto

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Yep, its a beautiful thing to do to complete a job - a real
aesthetic(sp) process. Trubble is, it caused heaps of problems with
plastic insulated cable - a process known as "cold flow" where the
lacing twine displaced the conductor insulation. So the waxed twine
was banned (its fine for lead cables...). There was a solid core PVC
material twine, but havent seen any for years - and it too depends on
the skill of the lacee (new word?) not to do it too tight.

That would be lacer. Lacee is the wire bundle.

N. Thornton · May 14, 2004

ablight@alphalink.com.au (Andrew VK3BFA) wrote in message news:<1fc7b362.0405131611.5cc5eeff@posting.google.com>...

PS - I was taught lacing at trade school, spent dozens of hours
learning a now redundant skill ( along with wiping lead cable and
paper twist jointing...)

I always thought lacing was a real time wasting way to do things, but
if the spec says do it you have to do it.

Now whats paper twist jointing?

Regards, NT

Andrew VK3BFA · May 14, 2004

"Richard Henry" <rphenry@home.com> wrote in message news:<ZLVoc.29167$fE.23226@fed1read02>...

"Andrew VK3BFA" <ablight@alphalink.com.au> wrote in message
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Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote in message
news:<ecq6a0h6tc827tp3ntfhf7opg8m4f222f6@4ax.com>...
This skill used to be a lot more common. It doesn't take long to do an
entire harness if you are good at it. (from another newsgroup):

http://www.tpub.com/neets/book4/12p.htm

http://www.tecratools.com/pages/tecalert/cable_lacing.html

http://www.dairiki.org/hammond/cable-lacing-howto

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Yep, its a beautiful thing to do to complete a job - a real
aesthetic(sp) process. Trubble is, it caused heaps of problems with
plastic insulated cable - a process known as "cold flow" where the
lacing twine displaced the conductor insulation. So the waxed twine
was banned (its fine for lead cables...). There was a solid core PVC
material twine, but havent seen any for years - and it too depends on
the skill of the lacee (new word?) not to do it too tight.

That would be lacer. Lacee is the wire bundle.

Thank you for the correction - my life is so much more richer for knowing this.

Andrew VK3BFA

Rich Grise · May 14, 2004

"CFoley1064" <cfoley1064@aol.com> wrote in message
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Subject: Acing lacing
From: Spehro Pefhany speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat
Date: 5/13/2004 7:20 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id: <ecq6a0h6tc827tp3ntfhf7opg8m4f222f6@4ax.com

This skill used to be a lot more common. It doesn't take long to do an
entire harness if you are good at it. (from another newsgroup):

http://www.tpub.com/neets/book4/12p.htm

http://www.tecratools.com/pages/tecalert/cable_lacing.html

http://www.dairiki.org/hammond/cable-lacing-howto

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

From the Tecra Tools link...

"Too much time was spent on the install leaving no time for the aesthetic
pleasure of creating these shapely yet time intensive organized bundles."

Waxing (!) poetic about lacing! ROTFL! I wish I could say my fingers
were
laughing, too. They still remember, and they don't think it's funny at
all.

One time I was lacing a bundle in a particularly dirty environment,

and couldn't get a good grip on that waxed lacing cord, so I dripped a
little "liquid flux" (rosin dissolved in solvent) to make my fingers
sticky.

It worked!

Cheers!
Rich

Don Pearce · May 14, 2004

On Fri, 14 May 2004 13:54:47 GMT, "Rich Grise" <null@example.net>
wrote:

One time I was lacing a bundle in a particularly dirty environment,
and couldn't get a good grip on that waxed lacing cord, so I dripped a
little "liquid flux" (rosin dissolved in solvent) to make my fingers
sticky.

It worked!

Cheers!
Rich

Guitarists use something like this to keep a good hold of a plectrum
even with a light grip. It is called "Gorilla snot".

d

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Richard Henry · May 14, 2004

"Andrew VK3BFA" <ablight@alphalink.com.au> wrote in message
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"Richard Henry" <rphenry@home.com> wrote in message
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"Andrew VK3BFA" <ablight@alphalink.com.au> wrote in message
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Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote in message
news:<ecq6a0h6tc827tp3ntfhf7opg8m4f222f6@4ax.com>...
This skill used to be a lot more common. It doesn't take long to do
an
entire harness if you are good at it. (from another newsgroup):

http://www.tpub.com/neets/book4/12p.htm

http://www.tecratools.com/pages/tecalert/cable_lacing.html

http://www.dairiki.org/hammond/cable-lacing-howto

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Yep, its a beautiful thing to do to complete a job - a real
aesthetic(sp) process. Trubble is, it caused heaps of problems with
plastic insulated cable - a process known as "cold flow" where the
lacing twine displaced the conductor insulation. So the waxed twine
was banned (its fine for lead cables...). There was a solid core PVC
material twine, but havent seen any for years - and it too depends on
the skill of the lacee (new word?) not to do it too tight.

That would be lacer. Lacee is the wire bundle.

Thank you for the correction - my life is so much more richer for knowing
this.

That should be "my life is so much richer for knowing this."

John Fields · May 14, 2004

On Fri, 14 May 2004 07:21:09 -0700, "Richard Henry" <rphenry@home.com>
wrote:

That should be "my life is so much richer for knowing this."

That should be: "That should be: "my life is so much richer for
knowing this." ".

;-)

--
John Fields

Spehro Pefhany · May 14, 2004

On Fri, 14 May 2004 14:57:45 +0100, the renowned Don Pearce
<complete@nonsense.com> wrote:

On Fri, 14 May 2004 13:54:47 GMT, "Rich Grise" <null@example.net
wrote:

One time I was lacing a bundle in a particularly dirty environment,
and couldn't get a good grip on that waxed lacing cord, so I dripped a
little "liquid flux" (rosin dissolved in solvent) to make my fingers
sticky.

It worked!

Cheers!
Rich

Guitarists use something like this to keep a good hold of a plectrum
even with a light grip. It is called "Gorilla snot".

There's a tape used in filmmaking that everyone calls "snot tape". I
saw it at friend's company that supplies movie production stuff. I
think the backing peels off leaving just the adhesive. Lots of cool
products are only sold to that industry.

Oh, and here's a mixed drink called "Gorilla snot":

Gorilla Snot

1/5 part Bailey's Irish Cream
Measure the port into a brandy glass, the pour the bailey's in. As the
Bailey's enters the port it will solidify, forming a glob.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

Charles Edmondson · May 14, 2004

Andrew VK3BFA wrote:

Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote in message news:<ecq6a0h6tc827tp3ntfhf7opg8m4f222f6@4ax.com>...

This skill used to be a lot more common. It doesn't take long to do an
entire harness if you are good at it. (from another newsgroup):

http://www.tpub.com/neets/book4/12p.htm

http://www.tecratools.com/pages/tecalert/cable_lacing.html

http://www.dairiki.org/hammond/cable-lacing-howto

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Yep, its a beautiful thing to do to complete a job - a real
aesthetic(sp) process. Trubble is, it caused heaps of problems with
plastic insulated cable - a process known as "cold flow" where the
lacing twine displaced the conductor insulation. So the waxed twine
was banned (its fine for lead cables...). There was a solid core PVC
material twine, but havent seen any for years - and it too depends on
the skill of the lacee (new word?) not to do it too tight.

The same applies to nylon cable ties - reef them up too tight and you
do the same, particularly trubblesome if you are securing against a
metal bracket....

73 de VK3BFA Andrew

PS - I was taught lacing at trade school, spent dozens of hours
learning a now redundant skill ( along with wiping lead cable and
paper twist jointing...)
Ahhh, cable lacing...

Fortunately, I joined the telco just as they were having to REMOVE all
that nicely laced cable to replace it with new, connectorized cable.
They had to put in new cable trays for the new equipment, because
someone actually thought ahead (or maybe, had just be bitten in the a$$
recently) and realized that they would be removing all those nicely
laced down cables as soon as the equipment they connected was removed!
I remembered tears of both joy and sorrow as those installers later
ripped through those laces to recover all those cables for recycling!

Of course, even if using tie-wraps, you can still do a neat job!

--
Charlie
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Edmondson Engineering
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John Fields · May 14, 2004

On Thu, 13 May 2004 12:20:55 GMT, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

This skill used to be a lot more common. It doesn't take long to do an
entire harness if you are good at it.

....

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Rich Grise · May 14, 2004

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 May 2004 07:21:09 -0700, "Richard Henry" <rphenry@home.com
wrote:

That should be "my life is so much richer for knowing this."

That should be: "That should be: "my life is so much richer for
knowing this." ".

That should be: "That should be: "That should be: "My life is so

much richer for knowing this." ". ;-:"

John Fields · May 14, 2004

On Fri, 14 May 2004 21:51:31 GMT, "Rich Grise" <null@example.net>
wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 May 2004 07:21:09 -0700, "Richard Henry" <rphenry@home.com
wrote:

That should be "my life is so much richer for knowing this."

That should be: "That should be: "my life is so much richer for
knowing this." ".

That should be: "That should be: "That should be: "My life is so
much richer for knowing this." ". ;-:"

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The original post used this construct:

"Thank you for the correction - my life is so much more richer for
knowing this." , so I don't think the capital in needed after the
hyphen, since it only seems to indicate a pause, not the full stop and
the mandatory capital a period would have forced. However, an
ellipsis in front of the quotes preceding 'my' to indicate the
contraction would have have been the proper way to do it, though, (I
think) or easier yet, just quoting the whole sentence.

--
John Fields

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