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Is this possible?

My friend tells me that using AA batteries for his digital camera he
gets the following results;

First situation:
Rechargeable batteries rated 1.2 volts after charging the batteries
he reads : 1.359 volts Is this normal?


Second situation:
With regular AA batteries there is no voltage indicated on the
batteries;

but at one point his camera will tell to change the batteries; he
checks the voltage and he gets a reading of 3.389 volts
How is this possible?

Den
 
In article <1ddirvovi0q0tn1gkpsldu361mg3mhmjct@4ax.com>,
nomail@nomail.com says...
Is this possible?

My friend tells me that using AA batteries for his digital camera he
gets the following results;

First situation:
Rechargeable batteries rated 1.2 volts after charging the batteries
he reads : 1.359 volts Is this normal?
Click to expand...
Sure, though he's likely over-charging them with a dumb charger.

Second situation:
With regular AA batteries there is no voltage indicated on the
batteries;
Click to expand...
Define "regular". Define the circumstances. No, this is not
normal.

but at one point his camera will tell to change the batteries; he
checks the voltage and he gets a reading of 3.389 volts
How is this possible?
Click to expand...
The internal resistance of a battery will climb as it discharges.
At some point a "regular" battery will not be able to supply the
load. However, when it's taken out of the camera (and has no
load), the voltage from its intrinsic chemistry may be evident.

Testing batteries without a load is a usually waste of time. You
might be able to find a shorted cell, but rarely weak ones.

--
Keith
 
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:16:33 -0500, Keith R. Williams
<krw@attglobal.net> wrote:


The internal resistance of a battery will climb as it discharges.
At some point a "regular" battery will not be able to supply the
load. However, when it's taken out of the camera (and has no
load), the voltage from its intrinsic chemistry may be evident.
Click to expand...
Thanks for the explanation Keith;
Testing batteries without a load is a usually waste of time. You
might be able to find a shorted cell, but rarely weak ones.
Click to expand...
Does that mean that those little batterie testers
are useless?


Den
 
In article <vsekrvoh5f66qufeoun95ceihdc7g7fa4r@4ax.com>,
nomail@nomail.com says...
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:16:33 -0500, Keith R. Williams
krw@attglobal.net> wrote:



The internal resistance of a battery will climb as it discharges.
At some point a "regular" battery will not be able to supply the
load. However, when it's taken out of the camera (and has no
load), the voltage from its intrinsic chemistry may be evident.

Thanks for the explanation Keith;

Testing batteries without a load is a usually waste of time. You
might be able to find a shorted cell, but rarely weak ones.

Does that mean that those little batterie testers
are useless?
Click to expand...
Battery testers come in all sorts. If they load the battery, they're
useful, particularly if they have a differing load for each battery
type/size. If they're simply a voltmeter they're next to useless.

--
Keith
 
With regular AA batteries there is no voltage indicated on the
batteries;
...he gets a reading of 3.389 volts
Click to expand...
Maybe these AA batteries aren't "regular"? I've seen 6V batteries that look
like AA batteries before...

Andrew Howard
 
In article <MPG.1a234b07f5e47a1098a8cd@enews.newsguy.com>,
krw@attglobal.net mentioned...
In article <1ddirvovi0q0tn1gkpsldu361mg3mhmjct@4ax.com>,
nomail@nomail.com says...
Is this possible?

My friend tells me that using AA batteries for his digital camera he
gets the following results;

First situation:
Rechargeable batteries rated 1.2 volts after charging the batteries
he reads : 1.359 volts Is this normal?

Sure, though he's likely over-charging them with a dumb charger.
Click to expand...
It's normal for a Ni-MH to measure about 1.4V at full charge.

Second situation:
With regular AA batteries there is no voltage indicated on the
batteries;

Define "regular". Define the circumstances. No, this is not
normal.

but at one point his camera will tell to change the batteries; he
checks the voltage and he gets a reading of 3.389 volts
How is this possible?

The internal resistance of a battery will climb as it discharges.
At some point a "regular" battery will not be able to supply the
load. However, when it's taken out of the camera (and has no
load), the voltage from its intrinsic chemistry may be evident.

Testing batteries without a load is a usually waste of time. You
might be able to find a shorted cell, but rarely weak ones.
Click to expand...
The normal AA alkaline cell will measure about 1.3 to 1.4V when it's
getting low. It's easy to tell a fresh cell from a used cell by
measuring it with a DMM on the 2V range.


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In article <MPG.1a2410f9bbd3b80a989af9@enews.newsguy.com>,
krw@attglobal.net mentioned...
In article <vsekrvoh5f66qufeoun95ceihdc7g7fa4r@4ax.com>,
nomail@nomail.com says...
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:16:33 -0500, Keith R. Williams
krw@attglobal.net> wrote:



The internal resistance of a battery will climb as it discharges.
At some point a "regular" battery will not be able to supply the
load. However, when it's taken out of the camera (and has no
load), the voltage from its intrinsic chemistry may be evident.

Thanks for the explanation Keith;

Testing batteries without a load is a usually waste of time. You
might be able to find a shorted cell, but rarely weak ones.

Does that mean that those little batterie testers
are useless?

Battery testers come in all sorts. If they load the battery, they're
useful, particularly if they have a differing load for each battery
type/size. If they're simply a voltmeter they're next to useless.
Click to expand...
Not true. See other post.

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###Got a Question about ELECTRONICS? Check HERE First:###
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My email address is whitelisted. *All* email sent to it
goes directly to the trash unless you add NOSPAM in the
Subject: line with other stuff. alondra101 <at> hotmail.com
Don't be ripped off by the big book dealers. Go to the URL
that will give you a choice and save you money(up to half).
http://www.everybookstore.com You'll be glad you did!
Just when you thought you had all this figured out, the gov't
changed it: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html
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In article <MPG.1a29306bd6b69512989952@news.dslextreme.com>,
Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, Dark Remover" <alondra101@hotmail.com>
says...
In article <MPG.1a2410f9bbd3b80a989af9@enews.newsguy.com>,
krw@attglobal.net mentioned...
In article <vsekrvoh5f66qufeoun95ceihdc7g7fa4r@4ax.com>,
nomail@nomail.com says...
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:16:33 -0500, Keith R. Williams
krw@attglobal.net> wrote:



The internal resistance of a battery will climb as it discharges.
At some point a "regular" battery will not be able to supply the
load. However, when it's taken out of the camera (and has no
load), the voltage from its intrinsic chemistry may be evident.

Thanks for the explanation Keith;

Testing batteries without a load is a usually waste of time. You
might be able to find a shorted cell, but rarely weak ones.

Does that mean that those little batterie testers
are useless?

Battery testers come in all sorts. If they load the battery, they're
useful, particularly if they have a differing load for each battery
type/size. If they're simply a voltmeter they're next to useless.

Not true. See other post.
Click to expand...
I disagree. See other post.

--
Keith
 
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