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Exploring the origins of life
A new model helps to understand the self-organization of molecules into living structures
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/08/230804123715.htm
On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 12:34:42?AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Exploring the origins of life
A new model helps to understand the self-organization of molecules into living structures
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/08/230804123715.htm
Very nascent field of research about which absolutely nothing is known. But with the very clever and imaginative people at Max Planck Institute, it won\'t stay that way much longer. Lots and lots of legacy observations to give very strong clues about how what people always knew to be true will proceed.
On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 09:39:54 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 12:34:42?AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Exploring the origins of life
A new model helps to understand the self-organization of molecules into living structures
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/08/230804123715.htm
Very nascent field of research about which absolutely nothing is known. But with the very clever and imaginative people at Max Planck Institute, it won\'t stay that way much longer. Lots and lots of legacy observations to give very strong clues about how what people always knew to be true will proceed.
The problem with explaining life is the irreducable
complexity of even the simplest self-replicating DNA-based
cell. It all has to work before any of it can work.
On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 09:39:54 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 12:34:42?AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Exploring the origins of life
A new model helps to understand the self-organization of molecules into living structures
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/08/230804123715.htm
Very nascent field of research about which absolutely nothing is known. But with the very clever and imaginative people at Max
Planck Institute, it won\'t stay that way much longer. Lots and lots of legacy observations to give very strong clues about how
what people always knew to be true will proceed.
The problem with explaining life is the irreducable
complexity of even the simplest self-replicating DNA-based
cell. It all has to work before any of it can work.
On a sunny day (Sat, 05 Aug 2023 13:23:32 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkinsnipsnip2highlandtechnology.com@> wrote in
cjbtci11e55r1mrod...@4ax.com>:
On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 09:39:54 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 12:34:42?AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Exploring the origins of life
A new model helps to understand the self-organization of molecules into living structures
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/08/230804123715.htm
Very nascent field of research about which absolutely nothing is known. But with the very clever and imaginative people at Max
Planck Institute, it won\'t stay that way much longer. Lots and lots of legacy observations to give very strong clues about how
what people always knew to be true will proceed.
The problem with explaining life is the irreducable
complexity of even the simplest self-replicating DNA-based
cell. It all has to work before any of it can work.
Look at it like the modern cell-phone
Very complex, self-assembled from atoms over time
we are part of the mechanism
Its simple.
What\'s next?
On a sunny day (Sat, 05 Aug 2023 13:23:32 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkinsnipsnip2highlandtechnology.com@> wrote in
cjbtci11e55r1mrodtgh5esqngvp78tlve@4ax.com>:
On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 09:39:54 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 12:34:42?AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Exploring the origins of life
A new model helps to understand the self-organization of molecules into living structures
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/08/230804123715.htm
Very nascent field of research about which absolutely nothing is known. But with the very clever and imaginative people at Max
Planck Institute, it won\'t stay that way much longer. Lots and lots of legacy observations to give very strong clues about how
what people always knew to be true will proceed.
The problem with explaining life is the irreducable
complexity of even the simplest self-replicating DNA-based
cell. It all has to work before any of it can work.
Look at it like the modern cell-phone
Very complex, self-assembled from atoms over time
On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 1:42:18?AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Sat, 05 Aug 2023 13:23:32 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkinsnipsnip2highlandtechnology.com@> wrote in
cjbtci11e55r1mrod...@4ax.com>:
On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 09:39:54 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 12:34:42?AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Exploring the origins of life
A new model helps to understand the self-organization of molecules into living structures
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/08/230804123715.htm
Very nascent field of research about which absolutely nothing is known. But with the very clever and imaginative people at Max
Planck Institute, it won\'t stay that way much longer. Lots and lots of legacy observations to give very strong clues about how
what people always knew to be true will proceed.
The problem with explaining life is the irreducable
complexity of even the simplest self-replicating DNA-based
cell. It all has to work before any of it can work.
Look at it like the modern cell-phone
Very complex, self-assembled from atoms over time
we are part of the mechanism
Its simple.
What\'s next?
They still have a long way to go. Here is one example of just how complex it gets:
This [brain] circuit detects inflammation in the blood and organizes and regulates the immune response.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/07/230725123050.htm
Also hints at scientific underpinnings of the placebo effect, as well as pointing out the possible dangers of pharmaceutical alteration of brain function, especially as regards all the various types of blockers, inhibitors, and agonists.
On Sun, 06 Aug 2023 05:42:10 GMT, Jan Panteltje
al...@comet.invalid> wrote:
On a sunny day (Sat, 05 Aug 2023 13:23:32 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkinsnipsnip2highlandtechnology.com@> wrote in
cjbtci11e55r1mrod...@4ax.com>:
On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 09:39:54 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 12:34:42?AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Exploring the origins of life
A new model helps to understand the self-organization of molecules into living structures
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/08/230804123715.htm
Very nascent field of research about which absolutely nothing is known.. But with the very clever and imaginative people at Max
Planck Institute, it won\'t stay that way much longer. Lots and lots of legacy observations to give very strong clues about how
what people always knew to be true will proceed.
The problem with explaining life is the irreducable complexity of even the simplest self-replicating DNA-based cell. It all has to work before any of it can work.
Look at it like the modern cell-phone
Very complex, self-assembled from atoms over time
Cell phones don\'t design or assemble themselves. They evolved, but under deliberate intelligent direction.
No muddy puddle will deliver a living cell or a cell phone by itself.
On Sun, 06 Aug 2023 05:42:10 GMT, Jan Panteltje
alien@comet.invalid> wrote:
On a sunny day (Sat, 05 Aug 2023 13:23:32 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkinsnipsnip2highlandtechnology.com@> wrote in
cjbtci11e55r1mrodtgh5esqngvp78tlve@4ax.com>:
On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 09:39:54 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 12:34:42?AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Exploring the origins of life
A new model helps to understand the self-organization of molecules into living structures
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/08/230804123715.htm
Very nascent field of research about which absolutely nothing is known. But with the very clever and imaginative people at
Max
Planck Institute, it won\'t stay that way much longer. Lots and lots of legacy observations to give very strong clues about
how
what people always knew to be true will proceed.
The problem with explaining life is the irreducable
complexity of even the simplest self-replicating DNA-based
cell. It all has to work before any of it can work.
Look at it like the modern cell-phone
Very complex, self-assembled from atoms over time
Cell phones don\'t design or assemble themselves. They
evolved, but under deliberate intelligent direction.
No muddy puddle will deliver a living cell or a cell phone
by itself.
On a sunny day (Sun, 06 Aug 2023 07:06:44 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkinsnipsnip2highlandtechnology.com@> wrote in
r2avci9cbg6c2c8mjafiusac7v8ib94p1b@4ax.com>:
On Sun, 06 Aug 2023 05:42:10 GMT, Jan Panteltje
alien@comet.invalid> wrote:
On a sunny day (Sat, 05 Aug 2023 13:23:32 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkinsnipsnip2highlandtechnology.com@> wrote in
cjbtci11e55r1mrodtgh5esqngvp78tlve@4ax.com>:
On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 09:39:54 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 12:34:42?AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Exploring the origins of life
A new model helps to understand the self-organization of molecules into living structures
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/08/230804123715.htm
Very nascent field of research about which absolutely nothing is known. But with the very clever and imaginative people at
Max
Planck Institute, it won\'t stay that way much longer. Lots and lots of legacy observations to give very strong clues about
how
what people always knew to be true will proceed.
The problem with explaining life is the irreducable
complexity of even the simplest self-replicating DNA-based
cell. It all has to work before any of it can work.
Look at it like the modern cell-phone
Very complex, self-assembled from atoms over time
Cell phones don\'t design or assemble themselves. They
evolved, but under deliberate intelligent direction.
No muddy puddle will deliver a living cell or a cell phone
by itself.
You do not get it,
here step by step (AFAWK)
quarks (if starting smaller ask CERN)
protons, neutrons, electrons SELF assemble into atoms
it is a fixed structure, periodic table shows:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periodic_table
Chemical reactions happen with those atoms, molecules, to create energy, new materials, and living cells.
Living cells SELF assemble into all sorts of life forms.
Lifeforms SELF discover all sort of things / make those like cellphones,
All things organize.. communicate, are coupled..
Its simple.
No religion needed, no hocus pocus.
And it is likely universally everywhere (life) where it can be.
On Sun, 06 Aug 2023 15:19:32 GMT, Jan Panteltje
al...@comet.invalid> wrote:
On a sunny day (Sun, 06 Aug 2023 07:06:44 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkinsnipsnip2highlandtechnology.com@> wrote in
r2avci9cbg6c2c8mj...@4ax.com>:
On Sun, 06 Aug 2023 05:42:10 GMT, Jan Panteltje
al...@comet.invalid> wrote:
On a sunny day (Sat, 05 Aug 2023 13:23:32 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkinsnipsnip2highlandtechnology.com@> wrote in
cjbtci11e55r1mrod...@4ax.com>:
On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 09:39:54 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 12:34:42?AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Exploring the origins of life
A new model helps to understand the self-organization of molecules into living structures
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/08/230804123715.htm
Very nascent field of research about which absolutely nothing is known. But with the very clever and imaginative people at
Max
Planck Institute, it won\'t stay that way much longer. Lots and lots of legacy observations to give very strong clues about
how
what people always knew to be true will proceed.
The problem with explaining life is the irreducable
complexity of even the simplest self-replicating DNA-based
cell. It all has to work before any of it can work.
Look at it like the modern cell-phone
Very complex, self-assembled from atoms over time
Cell phones don\'t design or assemble themselves. They
evolved, but under deliberate intelligent direction.
No muddy puddle will deliver a living cell or a cell phone by itself.
You do not get it,
Hand-waving about incremental mutation and selection can\'t create an incredibly complex self-reproducing cell.
here step by step (AFAWK)
quarks (if starting smaller ask CERN)
protons, neutrons, electrons SELF assemble into atoms
it is a fixed structure, periodic table shows:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periodic_table
Chemical reactions happen with those atoms, molecules, to create energy, new materials, and living cells.
Living cells SELF assemble into all sorts of life forms.
Lifeforms SELF discover all sort of things / make those like cellphones,
All things organize.. communicate, are coupled..
Its simple.
No religion needed, no hocus pocus.
And it is likely universally everywhere (life) where it can be.
If life spontaneously evolves, it evolved in other places
billions of years before Earth formed and cooled off.
On Sun, 06 Aug 2023 15:19:32 GMT, Jan Panteltje
alien@comet.invalid> wrote:
On a sunny day (Sun, 06 Aug 2023 07:06:44 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkinsnipsnip2highlandtechnology.com@> wrote in
r2avci9cbg6c2c8mjafiusac7v8ib94p1b@4ax.com>:
On Sun, 06 Aug 2023 05:42:10 GMT, Jan Panteltje
alien@comet.invalid> wrote:
On a sunny day (Sat, 05 Aug 2023 13:23:32 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkinsnipsnip2highlandtechnology.com@> wrote in
cjbtci11e55r1mrodtgh5esqngvp78tlve@4ax.com>:
On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 09:39:54 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 12:34:42?AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Exploring the origins of life
A new model helps to understand the self-organization of molecules into living structures
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/08/230804123715.htm
Very nascent field of research about which absolutely nothing is known. But with the very clever and imaginative people at
Max
Planck Institute, it won\'t stay that way much longer. Lots and lots of legacy observations to give very strong clues about
how
what people always knew to be true will proceed.
The problem with explaining life is the irreducable
complexity of even the simplest self-replicating DNA-based
cell. It all has to work before any of it can work.
Look at it like the modern cell-phone
Very complex, self-assembled from atoms over time
Cell phones don\'t design or assemble themselves. They
evolved, but under deliberate intelligent direction.
No muddy puddle will deliver a living cell or a cell phone
by itself.
You do not get it,
Hand-waving about incremental mutation and selection can\'t
create an incredibly complex self-reproducing cell. People
have tried to conjecture a path without success.
here step by step (AFAWK)
quarks (if starting smaller ask CERN)
protons, neutrons, electrons SELF assemble into atoms
it is a fixed structure, periodic table shows:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periodic_table
Chemical reactions happen with those atoms, molecules, to create energy, new materials, and living cells.
Living cells SELF assemble into all sorts of life forms.
Lifeforms SELF discover all sort of things / make those like cellphones,
All things organize.. communicate, are coupled..
Its simple.
No religion needed, no hocus pocus.
And it is likely universally everywhere (life) where it can be.
If life spontaneously evolves, it evolved in other places
billions of years before Earth formed and cooled off.
On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 1:42:18â¯AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Sat, 05 Aug 2023 13:23:32 -0700) it happened John Larkin=
jjlarkinsnipsnip2highlandtechnology.com@> wrote in
cjbtci11e55r1mrod...@4ax.com>:
On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 09:39:54 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 12:34:42?AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:=
Exploring the origins of life
A new model helps to understand the self-organization of molecules in=
to living structures
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/08/230804123715.htm
Very nascent field of research about which absolutely nothing is known.=
But with the very clever and imaginative people at Max
Planck Institute, it won\'t stay that way much longer. Lots and lots of =
legacy observations to give very strong clues about how
what people always knew to be true will proceed.
The problem with explaining life is the irreducable
complexity of even the simplest self-replicating DNA-based
cell. It all has to work before any of it can work.
Look at it like the modern cell-phone
Very complex, self-assembled from atoms over time
we are part of the mechanism
Its simple.
What\'s next?
They still have a long way to go. Here is one example of just how complex it gets: