A looming El Niño could give us a preview of life a t 1.5C of warming...

[Fred Bloggs]

The El Nino is long overdo, making its occurrence in the near future more probable.

The hotter weather pattern might push the Earth into unprecedented territory next year.

https://grist.org/science/el-nino-tipping-points-amazon-great-barrier-reef/

NOAA review of el nino and la nina ( they really need to find better names for these things):

https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/ninonina.html

West coast always catches hell whichever one they get, and global warming makes everything more intense.

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 10:46:07 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

The El Nino is long overdo, making its occurrence in the near future more probable.

The hotter weather pattern might push the Earth into unprecedented territory next year.

https://grist.org/science/el-nino-tipping-points-amazon-great-barrier-reef/

That\'s silly shrieking. Earth has lots of stabilizing feedbacks.

NOAA review of el nino and la nina ( they really need to find better names for these things):

https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/ninonina.html

West coast always catches hell whichever one they get, and global warming makes everything more intense.

The west coast is beautiful and the climate is mild. It\'s 43F now
(brutally cold by local standards) and raining; the plants love it and
there is a green explosion.

Find something new to panic about.

 

[boB]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 11:24:17 -0800, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 10:46:07 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

The El Nino is long overdo, making its occurrence in the near future more probable.

The hotter weather pattern might push the Earth into unprecedented territory next year.

https://grist.org/science/el-nino-tipping-points-amazon-great-barrier-reef/

That\'s silly shrieking. Earth has lots of stabilizing feedbacks.


NOAA review of el nino and la nina ( they really need to find better names for these things):

https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/ninonina.html

West coast always catches hell whichever one they get, and global warming makes everything more intense.

The west coast is beautiful and the climate is mild. It\'s 43F now
(brutally cold by local standards) and raining; the plants love it and
there is a green explosion.

Find something new to panic about.

John, you an I are lucky.

We both are able to enjoy the warming weather now. I come south to
Arizona to work during the winter and go back to the pacific northwest
during the HOT summer.

We won\'t be around when our descendants have to toil in the remnants
of this global issue that is coming and that \'could\' be avoided. I
agree it might be too hard at this point but I don\'t know ?

So, let\'s just enjoy our last 20 years or so on this warm earth and
screw our kids and the rest of humanity.

But no worries ! We just have to make sure we have the parts to stuff
in our boards and other materials so that we can stay in business and
thrive.

boB

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 15:01:25 -0700, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote:

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 11:24:17 -0800, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 10:46:07 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

The El Nino is long overdo, making its occurrence in the near future more probable.

The hotter weather pattern might push the Earth into unprecedented territory next year.

https://grist.org/science/el-nino-tipping-points-amazon-great-barrier-reef/

That\'s silly shrieking. Earth has lots of stabilizing feedbacks.


NOAA review of el nino and la nina ( they really need to find better names for these things):

https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/ninonina.html

West coast always catches hell whichever one they get, and global warming makes everything more intense.

The west coast is beautiful and the climate is mild. It\'s 43F now
(brutally cold by local standards) and raining; the plants love it and
there is a green explosion.

Find something new to panic about.


John, you an I are lucky.

We both are able to enjoy the warming weather now. I come south to
Arizona to work during the winter and go back to the pacific northwest
during the HOT summer.

We won\'t be around when our descendants have to toil in the remnants
of this global issue that is coming and that \'could\' be avoided. I
agree it might be too hard at this point but I don\'t know ?

So, let\'s just enjoy our last 20 years or so on this warm earth and
screw our kids and the rest of humanity.

But no worries ! We just have to make sure we have the parts to stuff
in our boards and other materials so that we can stay in business and
thrive.

boB

Earth is greening. People are living better and longer.

Fear mongering has always been a profitable industry.

We have 20 years left? That\'s an improvement; 30 years ago, we only
had 12 left.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 2:24:33 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 10:46:07 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

The El Nino is long overdo, making its occurrence in the near future more probable.

The hotter weather pattern might push the Earth into unprecedented territory next year.

https://grist.org/science/el-nino-tipping-points-amazon-great-barrier-reef/
That\'s silly shrieking. Earth has lots of stabilizing feedbacks.

Those would be feedbacks that stabilize a new steady state that chokes mankind out of existence.

NOAA review of el nino and la nina ( they really need to find better names for these things):

https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/ninonina.html

West coast always catches hell whichever one they get, and global warming makes everything more intense.
The west coast is beautiful and the climate is mild. It\'s 43F now
(brutally cold by local standards) and raining; the plants love it and
there is a green explosion.

You have a gazillion dead trees and innumerable species of lifeforms going extinct that think otherwise.

You don\'t have any water, your roads are buckling under the heat and becoming impassible, you trains are jumping off the tracks warped by heat, and every little bit of vegetation around you that can burn, does. Plus you\'re being poisoned by long term exposure to all the airborne toxic burn product particulates. What\'s not to like?

Find something new to panic about.

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 15:54:39 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 2:24:33?PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 10:46:07 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

The El Nino is long overdo, making its occurrence in the near future more probable.

The hotter weather pattern might push the Earth into unprecedented territory next year.

https://grist.org/science/el-nino-tipping-points-amazon-great-barrier-reef/
That\'s silly shrieking. Earth has lots of stabilizing feedbacks.

Those would be feedbacks that stabilize a new steady state that chokes mankind out of existence.


NOAA review of el nino and la nina ( they really need to find better names for these things):

https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/ninonina.html

West coast always catches hell whichever one they get, and global warming makes everything more intense.
The west coast is beautiful and the climate is mild. It\'s 43F now
(brutally cold by local standards) and raining; the plants love it and
there is a green explosion.

You have a gazillion dead trees and innumerable species of lifeforms going extinct that think otherwise.

You don\'t have any water, your roads are buckling under the heat and becoming impassible, you trains are jumping off the tracks warped by heat, and every little bit of vegetation around you that can burn, does. Plus you\'re being poisoned by long term exposure to all the airborne toxic burn product particulates. What\'s not to like?

Were you always so afraid? Or maybe had some traumatic experience?

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 12:47:45 PM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 15:54:39 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 2:24:33?PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 10:46:07 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>

West coast always catches hell whichever one they get, and global warming makes everything more intense.
The west coast is beautiful and the climate is mild. It\'s 43F now
(brutally cold by local standards) and raining; the plants love it and
there is a green explosion.

You have a gazillion dead trees and innumerable species of lifeforms going extinct that think otherwise.

You don\'t have any water, your roads are buckling under the heat and becoming impassible, you trains are jumping off the tracks warped by heat, and every little bit of vegetation around you that can burn, does. Plus you\'re being poisoned by long term exposure to all the airborne toxic burn product particulates. What\'s not to like?

Were you always so afraid? Or maybe had some traumatic experience?

John Larkin claims not to feel fear. It\'s an intellectual defect - possibly congenital or he might have been dropped on his head as a kid.

It make him fool-hardy, but he likes to think that he is brave, rather than incompetent and ill-informed.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[whit3rd]

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 11:24:33 AM UTC-8, John Larkin wrote:

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 10:46:07 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

https://grist.org/science/el-nino-tipping-points-amazon-great-barrier-reef/
That\'s silly shrieking. Earth has lots of stabilizing feedbacks.

it\'s not silly, nor shrieking. Learn to use the S-word \"science\" where appropriate.

The west coast is beautiful and the climate is mild. It\'s 43F now
(brutally cold by local standards) and raining; the plants love it and
there is a green explosion.

Yeah, and that\'s bad news. Not only will remediation have to remove the observed excess CO2 from the
atmosphere, but the ~10% effect of increased plantlife uptake will vanish when we do so:
that makes the goalpost move, it retreats 10% further away. That \'stabilizing\' feedback
is just an added cost.

> Find something new to panic about.

Panic is neurotic fear, of the omnipresent Pan. Global climate is virtually omnipresent, so
\'panic\' is entirely appropriate to the situation, for all us non-neurotics. Newness is not required.

 

[boB]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 14:51:26 -0800, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 15:01:25 -0700, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote:

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 11:24:17 -0800, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 10:46:07 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

The El Nino is long overdo, making its occurrence in the near future more probable.

The hotter weather pattern might push the Earth into unprecedented territory next year.

https://grist.org/science/el-nino-tipping-points-amazon-great-barrier-reef/

That\'s silly shrieking. Earth has lots of stabilizing feedbacks.


NOAA review of el nino and la nina ( they really need to find better names for these things):

https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/ninonina.html

West coast always catches hell whichever one they get, and global warming makes everything more intense.

The west coast is beautiful and the climate is mild. It\'s 43F now
(brutally cold by local standards) and raining; the plants love it and
there is a green explosion.

Find something new to panic about.


John, you an I are lucky.

We both are able to enjoy the warming weather now. I come south to
Arizona to work during the winter and go back to the pacific northwest
during the HOT summer.

We won\'t be around when our descendants have to toil in the remnants
of this global issue that is coming and that \'could\' be avoided. I
agree it might be too hard at this point but I don\'t know ?

So, let\'s just enjoy our last 20 years or so on this warm earth and
screw our kids and the rest of humanity.

But no worries ! We just have to make sure we have the parts to stuff
in our boards and other materials so that we can stay in business and
thrive.

boB

Earth is greening. People are living better and longer.

Fear mongering has always been a profitable industry.

We have 20 years left? That\'s an improvement; 30 years ago, we only
had 12 left.

Yes, well, I figure that if I\'m around in 20+ years, then I\'ll be in
extended play mode for a while.