A Complete Idiot Tries To Question A Self Evident Truth

Genius isn't necessary to admit to a self evident truth but only a
complete moron would try to deny one.

Problem with that is it's often complete morons who subscribe to what
they think are self-evident truths.

Well? Don't keep us settin' on the edges of our chairs.

We're waiting for you to try to question -- not refute, not find a
counter example, only question -- the following self evident truth:

"Freedom of speech is a precondition of each and every free trade."

Try your best too clever by half word games and I'll milk them like
cows.



Bret Cahill

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:58:55 -0700 (PDT), BretCahill@peoplepc.com
wrote:

Genius isn't necessary to admit to a self evident truth but only a
complete moron would try to deny one.

Problem with that is it's often complete morons who subscribe to what
they think are self-evident truths.

Well? Don't keep us settin' on the edges of our chairs.

We're waiting for you to try to question -- not refute, not find a
counter example, only question -- the following self evident truth:

"Freedom of speech is a precondition of each and every free trade."

Try your best too clever by half word games and I'll milk them like
cows.



Bret Cahill

Do you ever do anything useful?

John

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:55:59 -0700 (PDT), BretCahill@peoplepc.com
wrote:

Genius isn't necessary to admit to a self evident truth but only a
complete moron would try to deny one.

Problem with that is it's often complete morons who subscribe to what
they think are self-evident truths.

Well? ?Don't keep us settin' on the edges of our chairs.

We're waiting for you to try to question -- not refute, not find a
counter example, only question -- the following self evident truth:

"Freedom of speech is a precondition of each and every free trade."

Try your best too clever by half word games and I'll milk them like
cows.

Do you ever do anything useful?

You don't think logic is useful?

Not unless it's applied to something.

What's your day job?

John

 

[John Fields]

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:58:55 -0700 (PDT), BretCahill@peoplepc.com
wrote:

Genius isn't necessary to admit to a self evident truth but only a
complete moron would try to deny one.

Problem with that is it's often complete morons who subscribe to what
they think are self-evident truths.

Well? Don't keep us settin' on the edges of our chairs.

We're waiting for you to try to question -- not refute, not find a
counter example, only question -- the following self evident truth:

"Freedom of speech is a precondition of each and every free trade."

Try your best too clever by half word games and I'll milk them like
cows.

---
After I dragged your dick in the dirt with that simple little charge
current VS discharge current VS time during the electric tractor
debacle you still want to pretend you know something about farming?

'Fraid you've been unhorsed again, Little Beaver.

JF

 

[bigfletch8@gmail.com]

On Aug 23, 1:58 am, BretCah...@peoplepc.com wrote:

Genius isn't necessary to admit to a self evident truth but only a
complete moron would try to deny one.
Problem with that is it's often complete morons who subscribe to what
they think are self-evident truths.

Well?  Don't keep us settin' on the edges of our chairs.

We're waiting for you to try to question -- not refute, not find a
counter example, only question -- the following self evident truth:

"Freedom of speech is a precondition of each and every free trade."

Try your best too clever by half word games and I'll milk them like
cows.

Bret Cahill

There is no past.There is no future.

Life exists now. Ever remember being alive other than now?

Thinking about the past or future is just the mind projecting, but
still happens now.

Become conscious of this, and you can leave the milking to the dairy
farmers, because all truth will become self evident.

BOfL

 

Genius isn't necessary to admit to a self evident truth but only a
complete moron would try to deny one.

Problem with that is it's often complete morons who subscribe to what
they think are self-evident truths.

Well? �Don't keep us settin' on the edges of our chairs.

We're waiting for you to try to question -- not refute, not find a
counter example, only question -- the following self evident truth:

"Freedom of speech is a precondition of each and every free trade."

Try your best too clever by half word games and I'll milk them like
cows.

Do you ever do anything useful?

You don't think logic is useful?

I think we've finally identified the problem.


Bret Cahill


"To say philosophy hinges on science is to stand Truth Herself on Her
head."

-- Nietzsche

 

On Aug 22, 8:58 am, BretCah...@peoplepc.com wrote:

Genius isn't necessary to admit to a self evident truth but only a
complete moron would try to deny one.
Problem with that is it's often complete morons who subscribe to what
they think are self-evident truths.

Well?  Don't keep us settin' on the edges of our chairs.

We're waiting for you to try to question -- not refute, not find a
counter example, only question -- the following self evident truth:

"Freedom of speech is a precondition of each and every free trade."

Are there any free trades in Singapore?

Try your best too clever by half word games and I'll milk them like
cows.

Bret Cahill

 

[John Fields]

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:49:37 -0700 (PDT), BretCahill@peoplepc.com
wrote:

Genius isn't necessary to admit to a self evident truth but only a
complete moron would try to deny one.

Problem with that is it's often complete morons who subscribe to what
they think are self-evident truths.

Well? ?Don't keep us settin' on the edges of our chairs.

We're waiting for you to try to question -- not refute, not find a
counter example, only question -- the following self evident truth:

"Freedom of speech is a precondition of each and every free trade."

Try your best too clever by half word games and I'll milk them like
cows.

Do you ever do anything useful?

You don't think logic is useful?

Not unless it's applied to something.

If a customer orders a "black box" do you think every vendor /
designer always demands to know how it's going to be used?

What's your day job?

Can you demonstrate some ability to focus on issues and be
functionally logical?

Here, we'll try again:

We're waiting for you to try to question -- not refute, not find a
counter example, only question -- the following self evident truth:

"Freedom of speech is a precondition of each and every free trade."

This time no dodgin'.

---
Speakin' of dodgin', what's your day job?

JF

 

[John Fields]

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:36:51 -0700 (PDT), BretCahill@peoplepc.com
wrote:

Genius isn't necessary to admit to a self evident truth but only a
complete moron would try to deny one.

Problem with that is it's often complete morons who subscribe to what
they think are self-evident truths.

Well? ?Don't keep us settin' on the edges of our chairs.

We're waiting for you to try to question -- not refute, not find a
counter example, only question -- the following self evident truth:

"Freedom of speech is a precondition of each and every free trade."

Try your best too clever by half word games and I'll milk them like
cows.

Here, we'll try again:

---
"we'll"???
---

We're waiting for you to try to question -- not refute, not find a
counter example, only question -- the following self evident truth:

---
"We're"???

I sure don't see great hordes of "Cahill's Rangers" coming to your
rescue while you wheeze your sorry life away.
---

"Freedom of speech is a precondition of each and every free trade."

This time no dodgin' 'n dodgin'.

---
Snippety-snip isn't dodging, you cur coprolite?

Besides, Shrikeback pretty much nailed it with:

"Are there any free trades in Singapore?"

Sit back and lick your wounds, you've been emasculated.


---
JF

 

[John Fields]

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:49:37 -0700 (PDT), BretCahill@peoplepc.com
wrote:

Genius isn't necessary to admit to a self evident truth but only a
complete moron would try to deny one.

Problem with that is it's often complete morons who subscribe to what
they think are self-evident truths.

Well? ?Don't keep us settin' on the edges of our chairs.

We're waiting for you to try to question -- not refute, not find a
counter example, only question -- the following self evident truth:

"Freedom of speech is a precondition of each and every free trade."

Try your best too clever by half word games and I'll milk them like
cows.

Do you ever do anything useful?

You don't think logic is useful?

Not unless it's applied to something.

If a customer orders a "black box" do you think every vendor /
designer always demands to know how it's going to be used?

---
Red herring.
---

What's your day job?

Can you demonstrate some ability to focus on issues and be
functionally logical?

---
Red Herring
---

Here, we'll try again:

---
Why do you refer to yourself in the plural?
---

We're

---
Again, why do you refer to yourself in the plural?

There's no Bret Cahill Brigade for whom you speak, there's just you
which, in truth, is fairly close to zero.
---

waiting for you to try to question -- not refute, not find a
counter example, only question -- the following self evident truth:

"Freedom of speech is a precondition of each and every free trade."

---
Definitely: "Come into my parlor, said the spider to the fly.", but
your parlor is disordered and dirty, and your proposition nonsensical,
so that's not an attractive offer.
---

This time no dodgin'.

---
"Do as I say, not as I do." ???

JF

 

Genius isn't necessary to admit to a self evident truth but only a
complete moron would try to deny one.

Problem with that is it's often complete morons who subscribe to what
they think are self-evident truths.

Well? �Don't keep us settin' on the edges of our chairs.

We're waiting for you to try to question -- not refute, not find a
counter example, only question -- the following self evident truth:

"Freedom of speech is a precondition of each and every free trade."

Try your best too clever by half word games and I'll milk them like
cows.

Here, we'll try again:

We're waiting for you to try to question -- not refute, not find a
counter example, only question -- the following self evident truth:

"Freedom of speech is a precondition of each and every free trade."

This time no dodgin' 'n dodgin'.


Bret Cahill

 

Genius isn't necessary to admit to a self evident truth but only a
complete moron would try to deny one.
Problem with that is it's often complete morons who subscribe to what
they think are self-evident truths.

Well? �Don't keep us settin' on the edges of our chairs.

We're waiting for you to try to question -- not refute, not find a
counter example, only question -- the following self evident truth:

"Freedom of speech is a precondition of each and every free trade."

Are there any free trades in Singapore?

Is there any censorship of economic information in Singapore?


Bret Cahill

 

On Aug 22, 1:51 pm, BretCah...@peoplepc.com wrote:

Genius isn't necessary to admit to a self evident truth but only a
complete moron would try to deny one.
Problem with that is it's often complete morons who subscribe to what
they think are self-evident truths.
Well? Don't keep us settin' on the edges of our chairs.
We're waiting for you to try to question -- not refute, not find a
counter example, only question -- the following self evident truth:
"Freedom of speech is a precondition of each and every free trade."
Are there any free trades in Singapore?

Is there any censorship of economic information in Singapore?

That depends on what your definition of "economic
information" is. Clearly, Singapore does not have
freedom of speech, in any case. So, back to the
question (and no dodging this time):

Are there any free trades in Singapore?

 

[bigfletch8@gmail.com]

On Aug 23, 2:41 am, retrogro...@comcast.net wrote:

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:15:59 -0700 (PDT), "bigflet...@gmail.com"

bigflet...@gmail.com> wrote:
Become conscious of this, and you can leave the milking to the dairy
farmers, because all truth will become self evident.

And if the dairy farmers do it?

 

[bigfletch8@gmail.com]

On Aug 23, 2:41 am, retrogro...@comcast.net wrote:

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:15:59 -0700 (PDT), "bigflet...@gmail.com"

bigflet...@gmail.com> wrote:
Become conscious of this, and you can leave the milking to the dairy
farmers, because all truth will become self evident.

And if the dairy farmers do it?

We were discussing 'self' evident. Thats all there is.

BOfL

 

[ZerkonX]

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:58:55 -0700, BretCahill wrote:

We're waiting for you to try to question -- not refute, not find a
counter example, only question -- the following self evident truth:

"Freedom of speech is a precondition of each and every free trade."
Try your best too clever by half word games and I'll milk them like
cows.

Does this hold true if speech itself is not a precondition for each and
every trade?

If action, which must take place in any trade, implies speech then
wouldn't it be more accurate to say that it is 'freedom of action' that
is the precondition but isn't the act of trading done under given and
agreed upon restrictions?

If actions are willingly restricted would this mean that it is 'free
will' that is the basic precondition to 'free trade'?

Since willingly restricting action is done for a reason, doesn't being
able to reason freely a precondition also and since trade is a social
activity, reason not only has to be free but also be rational. Can a
trade take place without the precondition of rationality?

More milking.

If a rationale given in a trade is, for instance, "Cars love Shell
gasoline", obviously an irrational statement, yet a trade is still done,
doesn't this removing rational thought as a given precondition? Can a
rational trade take place based upon irrational reasoning? Is an
irrational trade a "free trade"?

Another bucket?

 

[alexy]

BretCahill@peoplepc.com wrote:

Do you ever do anything useful?

You don't think logic is useful?

The question was whether you do anything useful. What does that have
to do with logic?
--
Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently.

 

[Robert Monsen]

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:58:55 -0700 (PDT), BretCahill@peoplepc.com
wrote:

Genius isn't necessary to admit to a self evident truth but only a
complete moron would try to deny one.

Problem with that is it's often complete morons who subscribe to what
they think are self-evident truths.

Well? Don't keep us settin' on the edges of our chairs.

We're waiting for you to try to question -- not refute, not find a
counter example, only question -- the following self evident truth:

"Freedom of speech is a precondition of each and every free trade."

Try your best too clever by half word games and I'll milk them like
cows.



Bret Cahill

Counterexample: china.

Regards,
Bob Monsen

 

[Stray Dog]

On Sat, 23 Aug 2008, alexy wrote:

Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 12:42:08 -0400
From: alexy <nospam@asbry.net
Newsgroups: alt.philosophy, sci.econ, sci.energy, sci.electronics.basics,
alt.politics.economics
Subject: Re: A Complete Idiot Tries To Question A Self Evident Truth

BretCahill@peoplepc.com wrote:


Do you ever do anything useful?

You don't think logic is useful?

The question was whether you do anything useful.

I am sure that you, alexy, consider everything you do as being useful. The
question might be whether very many other people consider what you do as
being useful.

What does that have

to do with logic?

All depends on your definition of logic, and I see that you did not define
the word in this context. However, I am sure that if you don't understand
someone (else) then you will call them "illogical".

And, for anyone else reading this thread, I assert that "alexy" is a
machine that operates with levers, gears, hydraulic fluid, and not flesh
and blood (his hydraulic fluid is cold), and has a cash register for a
brain. No heart.

You could also call him a "money vampire" that sucks up money like a
vacuum cleaner and doesn't worry about poor people, laid off people,
offshored jobs...nothing like that...as long as he gets his dividends from
Walmart, ROI on the stock market, and such things as helping CEOs screw
their underlings.

--
Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently.

 

[John Fields]

On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 01:25:27 +0200, noway@jose.com (PeterBP) wrote:

John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

Speakin' of dodgin', what's your day job?

JF

Do you enjoy trying to engage turnstiles in conversation?

Just askin'.

---
Sometimes.

JF