A company called Indigo is paying farmers to trap carbon in their soils....

[Fred Bloggs]

Sounds like a plan, and just because a bunch of Colorado civil service academics can\'t get a handle on it, doesn\'t mean it can\'t be made workable. It takes private industry pursuing profits to get the right kind of people working on it.

NO2 is a killer:

\"Even harder to measure are emissions of nitrous oxide (N2O), a potent greenhouse gas released by soil microbes digesting nitrogen fertilizer that accounts for about 6% of total climate warming. \"

The global warming potential of N2O is almost 300x that of CO2 of the same mass, and it persists in the atmosphere for 100 years. That\'s a pretty good reason to minimize fertilizer use, something JL thinks can be used with reckless abandon.

The methane is the compost/ decomposition product well-known for its death toll.

Eventually, satellite data in combination with an AI- assist will tame this challenge.

https://www.science.org/content/article/farmers-paid-millions-trap-carbon-soils-will-it-actually-help-planet

 

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[John Larkin]

On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 09:23:52 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

Sounds like a plan, and just because a bunch of Colorado civil service academics can\'t get a handle on it, doesn\'t mean it can\'t be made workable. It takes private industry pursuing profits to get the right kind of people working on it.

NO2 is a killer:

\"Even harder to measure are emissions of nitrous oxide (N2O), a potent greenhouse gas released by soil microbes digesting nitrogen fertilizer that accounts for about 6% of total climate warming. \"

The global warming potential of N2O is almost 300x that of CO2 of the same mass, and it persists in the atmosphere for 100 years. That\'s a pretty good reason to minimize fertilizer use, something JL thinks can be used with reckless abandon.

8 billion people need to eat. Fertilizer keeps us alive.

The methane is the compost/ decomposition product well-known for its death toll.

Starvation is better known for its death toll.

Eventually, satellite data in combination with an AI- assist will tame this challenge.

https://www.science.org/content/article/farmers-paid-millions-trap-carbon-soils-will-it-actually-help-planet

 

[whit3rd]

On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 1:36:23 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 09:23:52 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

The global warming potential of N2O is almost 300x that of CO2 of the same mass, and it persists in the atmosphere for 100 years. That\'s a pretty good reason to minimize fertilizer use, something JL thinks can be used with reckless abandon.

8 billion people need to eat. Fertilizer keeps us alive.

That\'s a gross oversimplification, as usual.
Fertilizer in the water doesn\'t help, either. 8 billion people need to get their seafood
from farther out at sea if the local waters are polluted by agriculture runoff (Chesapeake
Bay being a good example).

 

[Don Y]

On 7/28/2023 3:00 PM, whit3rd wrote:

That\'s a gross oversimplification, as usual.
Fertilizer in the water doesn\'t help, either. 8 billion people need to get their seafood
from farther out at sea if the local waters are polluted by agriculture runoff (Chesapeake
Bay being a good example).

Antibiotics kill nasty bugs. Let\'s put antibiotics in EVERYTHING
and that way we won\'t have to worry about nasty bugs! More is
ALWAYS better!

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 4:36:23 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 09:23:52 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sounds like a plan, and just because a bunch of Colorado civil service academics can\'t get a handle on it, doesn\'t mean it can\'t be made workable. It takes private industry pursuing profits to get the right kind of people working on it.

NO2 is a killer:

\"Even harder to measure are emissions of nitrous oxide (N2O), a potent greenhouse gas released by soil microbes digesting nitrogen fertilizer that accounts for about 6% of total climate warming. \"

The global warming potential of N2O is almost 300x that of CO2 of the same mass, and it persists in the atmosphere for 100 years. That\'s a pretty good reason to minimize fertilizer use, something JL thinks can be used with reckless abandon.
8 billion people need to eat. Fertilizer keeps us alive.

It\'s not fertilizer versus no fertilizer. It\'s about using only enough to produce satisfactory yields. A lot of less educated people are of the more is better mentality.

When the plant takes up the fertilizer nitrogen, it\'s no longer available for microbe digestion and N2O respiration. So it sounds like N2O pollution is a function of excess N fertilizer application.

The methane is the compost/ decomposition product well-known for its death toll.
Starvation is better known for its death toll.

Starvation is caused by loss of access to food, and that can happen for any number of reasons, mostly affecting production. That would be droughts, excessive heat, floods, pestilence by invasion of alien species due to global warming...

Minimizing fertilizer is not real high on the list of dangerous things to do.

Eventually, satellite data in combination with an AI- assist will tame this challenge.

https://www.science.org/content/article/farmers-paid-millions-trap-carbon-soils-will-it-actually-help-planet

 

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Darius the Dumb has posted yet one more #veryStupidByLowIQaa article.

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 15:55:46 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 4:36:23?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 09:23:52 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sounds like a plan, and just because a bunch of Colorado civil service academics can\'t get a handle on it, doesn\'t mean it can\'t be made workable. It takes private industry pursuing profits to get the right kind of people working on it.

NO2 is a killer:

\"Even harder to measure are emissions of nitrous oxide (N2O), a potent greenhouse gas released by soil microbes digesting nitrogen fertilizer that accounts for about 6% of total climate warming. \"

The global warming potential of N2O is almost 300x that of CO2 of the same mass, and it persists in the atmosphere for 100 years. That\'s a pretty good reason to minimize fertilizer use, something JL thinks can be used with reckless abandon.
8 billion people need to eat. Fertilizer keeps us alive.

It\'s not fertilizer versus no fertilizer. It\'s about using only enough to produce satisfactory yields. A lot of less educated people are of the more is better mentality.

How is your farm doing?

And your electronic designs?

 

[Ricky]

On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 8:11:01 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 15:55:46 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
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On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 4:36:23?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 09:23:52 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sounds like a plan, and just because a bunch of Colorado civil service academics can\'t get a handle on it, doesn\'t mean it can\'t be made workable. It takes private industry pursuing profits to get the right kind of people working on it.

NO2 is a killer:

\"Even harder to measure are emissions of nitrous oxide (N2O), a potent greenhouse gas released by soil microbes digesting nitrogen fertilizer that accounts for about 6% of total climate warming. \"

The global warming potential of N2O is almost 300x that of CO2 of the same mass, and it persists in the atmosphere for 100 years. That\'s a pretty good reason to minimize fertilizer use, something JL thinks can be used with reckless abandon.
8 billion people need to eat. Fertilizer keeps us alive.

It\'s not fertilizer versus no fertilizer. It\'s about using only enough to produce satisfactory yields. A lot of less educated people are of the more is better mentality.
How is your farm doing?

And your electronic designs?

The irony is too much. Larkin is giving someone crap for having an opinion on a topic he is not an expert in. That is just so rich!!!

Why does anyone respond to Larkin and his crap?

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