A case for a dongle/adaptor

[Eeyore]

You know the thing I mean ?

A plastic case that allows 2 x 25 way D-subs (or a 25 way D and some
other connector) to be mounted 'back-to-back' with enough space to allow
some internal wring and/or circuitry.

Any ideas for a supplier ?

Graham

 

[Ben Jackson]

On 2008-01-01, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

You know the thing I mean ?

A plastic case that allows 2 x 25 way D-subs (or a 25 way D and some

Beware that printer ports are becoming ever more rare. If you seriously
want to make a dongle, look at chips like the FT232R. You can make a
USB dongle with that chip, a connector and a handful of discretes. The
MProg software will let you flash it with a serial number and/or other
secrets and it's verrry easy to access through their driver SDK.

--
Ben Jackson AD7GD
<ben@ben.com>
http://www.ben.com/

 

[Eeyore]

Ben Jackson wrote:

On 2008-01-01, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
You know the thing I mean ?

A plastic case that allows 2 x 25 way D-subs (or a 25 way D and some

Beware that printer ports are becoming ever more rare.

Not on my PCs ! Besides, you can always get a parallel card.

If you seriously want to make a dongle, look at chips like the FT232R.
You can make a
USB dongle with that chip, a connector and a handful of discretes. The
MProg software will let you flash it with a serial number and/or other
secrets and it's verrry easy to access through their driver SDK.

That's not what I want if for thanks.

I'm making an adaptor that works with Atmel's AT89ISP flash programming
software. It uses the parallel port.

Graham

 

[Arlet Ottens]

Eeyore wrote:

Ben Jackson wrote:

On 2008-01-01, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
You know the thing I mean ?

A plastic case that allows 2 x 25 way D-subs (or a 25 way D and some
Beware that printer ports are becoming ever more rare.

Not on my PCs ! Besides, you can always get a parallel card.


If you seriously want to make a dongle, look at chips like the FT232R.
You can make a
USB dongle with that chip, a connector and a handful of discretes. The
MProg software will let you flash it with a serial number and/or other
secrets and it's verrry easy to access through their driver SDK.

That's not what I want if for thanks.

I'm making an adaptor that works with Atmel's AT89ISP flash programming
software. It uses the parallel port.

If you're looking for just one, try googling for "db 25 jumper box".

They usually come with a little PCB inside, but you can toss that.

 

[Eeyore]

Arlet Ottens wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Ben Jackson wrote:
On 2008-01-01, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
You know the thing I mean ?

A plastic case that allows 2 x 25 way D-subs (or a 25 way D and some
Beware that printer ports are becoming ever more rare.

Not on my PCs ! Besides, you can always get a parallel card.


If you seriously want to make a dongle, look at chips like the FT232R.
You can make a
USB dongle with that chip, a connector and a handful of discretes. The
MProg software will let you flash it with a serial number and/or other
secrets and it's verrry easy to access through their driver SDK.

That's not what I want if for thanks.

I'm making an adaptor that works with Atmel's AT89ISP flash programming
software. It uses the parallel port.

If you're looking for just one, try googling for "db 25 jumper box".

They usually come with a little PCB inside, but you can toss that.

As ever, it's a question of finding the right search term.

Thanks for that. I found these on ebay for example.
http://cgi.ebay.com/RS232-Jumper-Box-DB25-M-F_W0QQitemZ370007809683QQihZ024QQcategoryZ51170QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m118

http://cgi.ebay.com/RS232-DB25-Jumper-Box-Male-Female-Brand-New_W0QQitemZ150088609081QQihZ005QQcategoryZ162QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m118

Graham

 

[Martin Griffith]

On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 10:38:32 +0000, in sci.electronics.design Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

Ben Jackson wrote:

On 2008-01-01, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
You know the thing I mean ?

A plastic case that allows 2 x 25 way D-subs (or a 25 way D and some

Beware that printer ports are becoming ever more rare.

Not on my PCs ! Besides, you can always get a parallel card.


If you seriously want to make a dongle, look at chips like the FT232R.
You can make a
USB dongle with that chip, a connector and a handful of discretes. The
MProg software will let you flash it with a serial number and/or other
secrets and it's verrry easy to access through their driver SDK.

That's not what I want if for thanks.

I'm making an adaptor that works with Atmel's AT89ISP flash programming
software. It uses the parallel port.

Graham
What circuit are you using?

I couldn't find atmel isp cable dongle circuit anywhere

HNY etc


martin

 

[Eeyore]

Martin Griffith wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Ben Jackson wrote:
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
You know the thing I mean ?

A plastic case that allows 2 x 25 way D-subs (or a 25 way D and some

Beware that printer ports are becoming ever more rare.

Not on my PCs ! Besides, you can always get a parallel card.


If you seriously want to make a dongle, look at chips like the FT232R.
You can make a
USB dongle with that chip, a connector and a handful of discretes. The
MProg software will let you flash it with a serial number and/or other
secrets and it's verrry easy to access through their driver SDK.

That's not what I want if for thanks.

I'm making an adaptor that works with Atmel's AT89ISP flash programming
software. It uses the parallel port.


What circuit are you using?
I couldn't find atmel isp cable dongle circuit anywhere

It DOES exist but is well hidden on Atmel's site. I forget how I found it now
but there was a link at 8052.com IIRC.

It's *horribly* presented too and doesn't even use the right 89S52 etc signal
names for the ISP header. It gave me a right headache redrafting it.

I'll post it in a.b.s.e

Graham

 

[Martin Griffith]

On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 13:27:00 +0000, in sci.electronics.design Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

Martin Griffith wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Ben Jackson wrote:
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
You know the thing I mean ?

A plastic case that allows 2 x 25 way D-subs (or a 25 way D and some

Beware that printer ports are becoming ever more rare.

Not on my PCs ! Besides, you can always get a parallel card.


If you seriously want to make a dongle, look at chips like the FT232R.
You can make a
USB dongle with that chip, a connector and a handful of discretes. The
MProg software will let you flash it with a serial number and/or other
secrets and it's verrry easy to access through their driver SDK.

That's not what I want if for thanks.

I'm making an adaptor that works with Atmel's AT89ISP flash programming
software. It uses the parallel port.


What circuit are you using?
I couldn't find atmel isp cable dongle circuit anywhere

It DOES exist but is well hidden on Atmel's site. I forget how I found it now
but there was a link at 8052.com IIRC.

It's *horribly* presented too and doesn't even use the right 89S52 etc signal
names for the ISP header. It gave me a right headache redrafting it.

I'll post it in a.b.s.e

Graham

Ta-da found this
http://www.btc.pl/pdf/zl9prg.pdf



martin

 

[Eeyore]

Martin Griffith wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Martin Griffith wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
Ben Jackson wrote:
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
You know the thing I mean ?

A plastic case that allows 2 x 25 way D-subs (or a 25 way D and some

Beware that printer ports are becoming ever more rare.

Not on my PCs ! Besides, you can always get a parallel card.


If you seriously want to make a dongle, look at chips like the FT232R.
You can make a
USB dongle with that chip, a connector and a handful of discretes. The
MProg software will let you flash it with a serial number and/or other
secrets and it's verrry easy to access through their driver SDK.

That's not what I want if for thanks.

I'm making an adaptor that works with Atmel's AT89ISP flash programming
software. It uses the parallel port.


What circuit are you using?
I couldn't find atmel isp cable dongle circuit anywhere

It DOES exist but is well hidden on Atmel's site. I forget how I found it now
but there was a link at 8052.com IIRC.

It's *horribly* presented too and doesn't even use the right 89S52 etc signal
names for the ISP header. It gave me a right headache redrafting it.

I'll post it in a.b.s.e

Graham

Ta-da found this
http://www.btc.pl/pdf/zl9prg.pdf

Looks different to me.

Every man and his dog seems to make a version that WON'T work with the ** ATMEL **
programming software.

e.g. ........
http://www.ikalogic.com/isp.php

http://elm-chan.org/works/avrx/stk200.png

http://www.kmitl.ac.th/~kswichit/ISP-Pgm3v0/ISP-Pgm3v0.html

http://elm-chan.org/works/avrx/report_e.html

http://www.equinox-tech.com/products/details.asp?ID=360
http://www.equinox-tech.com/products/details.asp?ID=361

http://www.kmitl.ac.th/~kswichit%20/STK300/Stk300.html

Note also that the AVR, Atmega and logic array programmers from Atmel all seem to
have small but subtle differences, so I've implemented strictly the one for the
AT89ISP spec.

Graham

 

[mpm]

On Jan 1, 7:01�am, Martin Griffith <mart_in_medina@ya___.es> wrote:

I couldn't find atmel isp cable dongle circuit anywhere

What cable?
The one that connects to the PC, or the one that connects to the
target board?
The target one you can make yourself, no big deal.

Digikey has the whole thing for about $30 US.
http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail?name=AT89ISP-ND

Or at least they did when I bought mine.
Right now they show zero stock, but check the other usual sources.
Atmel part# is "AT89ISP"

-mpm

 

[Eeyore]

mpm wrote:

Martin Griffith <mart_in_medina@ya___.es> wrote:

I couldn't find atmel isp cable dongle circuit anywhere

What cable?
The one that connects to the PC, or the one that connects to the
target board?
The target one you can make yourself, no big deal.

Digikey has the whole thing for about $30 US.
http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail?name=AT89ISP-ND

Or at least they did when I bought mine.
Right now they show zero stock, but check the other usual sources.
Atmel part# is "AT89ISP"

RoHS *non-compliant * I see.

Graham

 

[Martin Griffith]

On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 14:20:01 +0000, in sci.electronics.design Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

Martin Griffith wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Martin Griffith wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
Ben Jackson wrote:
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
You know the thing I mean ?

A plastic case that allows 2 x 25 way D-subs (or a 25 way D and some

Beware that printer ports are becoming ever more rare.

Not on my PCs ! Besides, you can always get a parallel card.


If you seriously want to make a dongle, look at chips like the FT232R.
You can make a
USB dongle with that chip, a connector and a handful of discretes. The
MProg software will let you flash it with a serial number and/or other
secrets and it's verrry easy to access through their driver SDK.

That's not what I want if for thanks.

I'm making an adaptor that works with Atmel's AT89ISP flash programming
software. It uses the parallel port.


What circuit are you using?
I couldn't find atmel isp cable dongle circuit anywhere

It DOES exist but is well hidden on Atmel's site. I forget how I found it now
but there was a link at 8052.com IIRC.

It's *horribly* presented too and doesn't even use the right 89S52 etc signal
names for the ISP header. It gave me a right headache redrafting it.

I'll post it in a.b.s.e

Graham

Ta-da found this
http://www.btc.pl/pdf/zl9prg.pdf

Looks different to me.

Every man and his dog seems to make a version that WON'T work with the ** ATMEL **
programming software.

e.g. ........
http://www.ikalogic.com/isp.php

http://elm-chan.org/works/avrx/stk200.png

http://www.kmitl.ac.th/~kswichit/ISP-Pgm3v0/ISP-Pgm3v0.html

http://elm-chan.org/works/avrx/report_e.html

http://www.equinox-tech.com/products/details.asp?ID=360
http://www.equinox-tech.com/products/details.asp?ID=361

http://www.kmitl.ac.th/~kswichit%20/STK300/Stk300.html

Note also that the AVR, Atmega and logic array programmers from Atmel all seem to
have small but subtle differences, so I've implemented strictly the one for the
AT89ISP spec.

Graham


Hmm, I seem to recognise all those URL's :-(

I'll stick with 89c51 for the moment then get the atmel cable /dongle
from farnell. 18 quid last time I looked.
I wish the 89S series used the serial port and the chips's uart like
the 89C, they put MISO/MOSI etc in the 89S, but it only works for
programming, silly buggers



martin

 

[Eeyore]

Martin Griffith wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Martin Griffith wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
Martin Griffith wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
Ben Jackson wrote:
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
You know the thing I mean ?

A plastic case that allows 2 x 25 way D-subs (or a 25 way D and some

Beware that printer ports are becoming ever more rare.

Not on my PCs ! Besides, you can always get a parallel card.


If you seriously want to make a dongle, look at chips like the FT232R.
You can make a
USB dongle with that chip, a connector and a handful of discretes. The
MProg software will let you flash it with a serial number and/or other
secrets and it's verrry easy to access through their driver SDK.

That's not what I want if for thanks.

I'm making an adaptor that works with Atmel's AT89ISP flash programming
software. It uses the parallel port.


What circuit are you using?
I couldn't find atmel isp cable dongle circuit anywhere

It DOES exist but is well hidden on Atmel's site. I forget how I found it now
but there was a link at 8052.com IIRC.

It's *horribly* presented too and doesn't even use the right 89S52 etc signal
names for the ISP header. It gave me a right headache redrafting it.

I'll post it in a.b.s.e

Graham

Ta-da found this
http://www.btc.pl/pdf/zl9prg.pdf

Looks different to me.

Every man and his dog seems to make a version that WON'T work with the ** ATMEL **
programming software.

e.g. ........
http://www.ikalogic.com/isp.php

http://elm-chan.org/works/avrx/stk200.png

http://www.kmitl.ac.th/~kswichit/ISP-Pgm3v0/ISP-Pgm3v0.html

http://elm-chan.org/works/avrx/report_e.html

http://www.equinox-tech.com/products/details.asp?ID=360
http://www.equinox-tech.com/products/details.asp?ID=361

http://www.kmitl.ac.th/~kswichit%20/STK300/Stk300.html

Note also that the AVR, Atmega and logic array programmers from Atmel all seem to
have small but subtle differences, so I've implemented strictly the one for the
AT89ISP spec.

Graham


Hmm, I seem to recognise all those URL's :-(

I'll stick with 89c51 for the moment then get the atmel cable /dongle
from farnell. 18 quid last time I looked.

Farnell do it ?

Could have saved myself a few hours there.

I wish the 89S series used the serial port and the chips's uart like
the 89C, they put MISO/MOSI etc in the 89S, but it only works for
programming, silly buggers

Never used ISP with the 89Cs. Do they work like the Philips ones that you can program
with Flash Magic ? Or is it another proprietary 'standard' ?

Thing is, that way you have to convert your (whatever non-standard level these days)
RS-232 to 5V / whatever. I see no advantage.

Graham

 

[Jamie]

Eeyore wrote:

You know the thing I mean ?

A plastic case that allows 2 x 25 way D-subs (or a 25 way D and some
other connector) to be mounted 'back-to-back' with enough space to allow
some internal wring and/or circuitry.

Any ideas for a supplier ?

Graham



http://www.mhconnectors.com/ShowDetails.asp?id=133

--
"I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy"


http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5"

 

[Martin Griffith]

On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 14:49:47 +0000, in sci.electronics.design Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

snip

I'll stick with 89c51 for the moment then get the atmel cable /dongle
from farnell. 18 quid last time I looked.

Farnell do it ?
Manufacturer: ATMEL

Order Code: 1095733

Manufacturer Part No: AT89ISP

Could have saved myself a few hours there.


I wish the 89S series used the serial port and the chips's uart like
the 89C, they put MISO/MOSI etc in the 89S, but it only works for
programming, silly buggers

Never used ISP with the 89Cs. Do they work like the Philips ones that you can program
with Flash Magic ? Or is it another proprietary 'standard' ?

Thing is, that way you have to convert your (whatever non-standard level these days)
RS-232 to 5V / whatever. I see no advantage.

Graham


Never used firrips 51's, I just sort of got used to atmel doc, so I

stuck with them.
Might go over to the 8515 AVR, as it has the same pinout as 51, for
faster stuff


martin

 

[Eeyore]

Martin Griffith wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
snip

I'll stick with 89c51 for the moment then get the atmel cable /dongle
from farnell. 18 quid last time I looked.

Farnell do it ?
Manufacturer: ATMEL

Order Code: 1095733

Manufacturer Part No: AT89ISP

Yeah, I found it after you mentioned it. I could have saved myself several hours work ! I
made a nice PCB too. Unfortunately Atmel seem to hide away lots of information about this
ISP tool

Graham

 

[Nico Coesel]

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

You know the thing I mean ?

A plastic case that allows 2 x 25 way D-subs (or a 25 way D and some
other connector) to be mounted 'back-to-back' with enough space to allow
some internal wring and/or circuitry.

Any ideas for a supplier ?

These used to be quite common. Many years ago I bought them in a store
around the corner. I suppose they can be found at Digikey, Farnell,
Mouser, RS, et al.

--
Reply to nico@nctdevpuntnl (punt=.)
Bedrijven en winkels vindt U op www.adresboekje.nl

 

[Tom Twist]

On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 10:14:34 +0000, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

You know the thing I mean ?

A plastic case that allows 2 x 25 way D-subs (or a 25 way D and some
other connector) to be mounted 'back-to-back' with enough space to allow
some internal wring and/or circuitry.

Any ideas for a supplier ?

Try Pactec :
http://www.pactecenclosures.com/Electrical-Connector-Enclosures.html

Farnell has some of them.

I have also bought some from Elfa:
www.elfa.se

Tom

 

[Rich Grise]

On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 10:38:32 +0000, Eeyore wrote:

Ben Jackson wrote:
On 2008-01-01, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
You know the thing I mean ?

A plastic case that allows 2 x 25 way D-subs (or a 25 way D and some

Beware that printer ports are becoming ever more rare.

Not on my PCs ! Besides, you can always get a parallel card.

If you seriously want to make a dongle, look at chips like the FT232R.
You can make a
USB dongle with that chip, a connector and a handful of discretes. The
MProg software will let you flash it with a serial number and/or other
secrets and it's verrry easy to access through their driver SDK.

That's not what I want if for thanks.

I'm making an adaptor that works with Atmel's AT89ISP flash programming
software. It uses the parallel port.

How "professional" does it have to be? You could get a pair of DB-25s,
put your circuitry between them, hold them together, but spaced, with
a couple of 2" (or whatever) 4-40 screws, and wrap duct tape around it.

If it's for market, then instead of the duct tape, you'd pot it.

Probably for production you'd use a PCB and 90 degree PCB connectors
rather than solder pots and wires.

Good Luck
Rich