555 timer circuit

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Hello,I made a simple astable 555 timer circuit the same as the one on
the 555 web site,but im having trouble working out the values of the
two resistors and the capacitor so it will turn on for 3 minuts and off
for 5 minuts.Could someone please point me in the right direction as i
found the data sheet a bit confusing.thankyou in advance
 
In article <1104319351.333874.44970@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
<burtonfamily@dodo.com.au> wrote:
Hello,I made a simple astable 555 timer circuit the same as the one on
the 555 web site,but im having trouble working out the values of the
two resistors and the capacitor so it will turn on for 3 minuts and off
for 5 minuts.Could someone please point me in the right direction as i
found the data sheet a bit confusing.thankyou in advance
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Frankly a 555 is a bad choice for such long delays. The precise timing
depends on the values of the caps and resistors of the circuit and at
200-300 second delays, the tolerances will be off by tens of seconds
every cycle.

A better solution is to count smaller more presice cycles. If you have wall
power available, an AC wall wart, along with a zener diode and a resistor
makes for a nearly dead accurate 60HZ reference that can easily be counted.

My belief is that microcontrollers are the 555 of the 21st century. A
single microcontroller like a PIC 12F629 could easily handle your
requirements with or without the 60 HZ reference.

BAJ

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burtonfamily@dodo.com.au wrote:
Hello,I made a simple astable 555 timer circuit the same as the one
on
the 555 web site,but im having trouble working out the values of the
two resistors and the capacitor so it will turn on for 3 minuts and
off
for 5 minuts.Could someone please point me in the right direction as
i
found the data sheet a bit confusing.thankyou in advance
Click to expand...
There is a 555 calculator on my site that will work out
times based on components entered. But in operation
the times will be a litte longer due to the capacitor
leakage. Probably get about 10% additional time for 3 minutes
calculated.
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Bill_Bowden/555.htm

-Bill
 
On 29 Dec 2004 burtonfamily@dodo.com.au wrote:

Hello,I made a simple astable 555 timer circuit the same as the one on
the 555 web site,but im having trouble working out the values of the
two resistors and the capacitor so it will turn on for 3 minuts and off
for 5 minuts.Could someone please point me in the right direction as i
found the data sheet a bit confusing.thankyou in advance
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You seem to be asking for a 3 / (3 + 5) = 37.5% duty cycle. Most
555 example circuits, etc do not use such low duty cycle, but this is
possible. Also, most examples do not show such low frequencies, but I
have managed this with the 555, and you can ultimately find examples.
I am very sure you can do exactly what you are wanting with a 555.

I found good and bad ways to accomplish the task you are now attempting.
There are two books by two different aithors: Walter Jung and another by
Howard M. Berlin. I own the latter book and it shows some simple circuits to
accomplish this. The basic concept in the circuit I am most familiar with manages
this using a couple of diodes in parellel, but in opposing polarities,
that connect to the timing cap. There are also two separate potentiometers,
either both or only one in series with each diode. The diodes and pots are
connected between pins 6 and 7. The circuit allows independent control over
the charge and discharge intervals. If you can find the Berlin book "The
555 timer applications sourcebook with experiments", have a look at
the chapter on the astable configuration, and particularly figures 3-8
and 3-9. These allow control over the frequency AND duty cycle. I suspect
you can achieve exactly what you are wanting from those examples.

Dominic
 
On 29 Dec 2004 03:22:31 -0800, burtonfamily@dodo.com.au wrote:

Hello,I made a simple astable 555 timer circuit the same as the one on
the 555 web site,but im having trouble working out the values of the
two resistors and the capacitor so it will turn on for 3 minuts and off
for 5 minuts.Could someone please point me in the right direction as i
found the data sheet a bit confusing.thankyou in advance
Click to expand...

Try the following values:

R1 = 430K
R2 = 630K
C = 1000uf

T1= about 300 sec
T2 = about 180 sec

Total = about 8 mins (because of component tolerances, it is difficult
to obtain precisian with long durations)

Use single transistor to invert logic levels for T1 & T2

A good 555 tutorial may be found at

http://www.uoguelph.ca/~antoon/gadgets/555/555.html


Cheers
 
Bill Bowden wrote:
burtonfamily@dodo.com.au wrote:
Hello,I made a simple astable 555 timer circuit the same as the one
on
the 555 web site,but im having trouble working out the values of
the
two resistors and the capacitor so it will turn on for 3 minuts and
off
for 5 minuts.Could someone please point me in the right direction
as
i
found the data sheet a bit confusing.thankyou in advance

There is a 555 calculator on my site that will work out
times based on components entered. But in operation
the times will be a litte longer due to the capacitor
leakage. Probably get about 10% additional time for 3 minutes
calculated.
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Bill_Bowden/555.htm

-Bill
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Thankyou for all your help,i`ll try all your ideas and see how i go,it
doesn`t worry me if it`s not real precise as im only using it to turn
on a bilge pump on a boat.I guess i`ll have to put a smoothing
capacitor in there somewhere to.cheers,
Paul
 
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004, Brian Lyons wrote:

On 29 Dec 2004 03:22:31 -0800, burtonfamily@dodo.com.au wrote:

Hello,I made a simple astable 555 timer circuit the same as the one on
the 555 web site,but im having trouble working out the values of the
two resistors and the capacitor so it will turn on for 3 minuts and off
for 5 minuts.Could someone please point me in the right direction as i
found the data sheet a bit confusing.thankyou in advance


Try the following values:

R1 = 430K
R2 = 630K
C = 1000uf

T1= about 300 sec
T2 = about 180 sec

Total = about 8 mins (because of component tolerances, it is difficult
to obtain precisian with long durations)

Use single transistor to invert logic levels for T1 & T2

A good 555 tutorial may be found at

http://www.uoguelph.ca/~antoon/gadgets/555/555.html
Click to expand...

Hmmmm,

Maybe this, together with one or more Johnson counters (4017) so that a
higher frequency cap can be used? Also, maybe still higher values of
R1 and R2 could be used (4.3 and 6.3 MOhm) with a 100 uF cap?

Dominic
 
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 17:15:51 +0100, Dominic-Luc Webb <dlwebb@canit.se>
wrote:

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004, Brian Lyons wrote:

On 29 Dec 2004 03:22:31 -0800, burtonfamily@dodo.com.au wrote:

Hello,I made a simple astable 555 timer circuit the same as the one on
the 555 web site,but im having trouble working out the values of the
two resistors and the capacitor so it will turn on for 3 minuts and off
for 5 minuts.Could someone please point me in the right direction as i
found the data sheet a bit confusing.thankyou in advance


Try the following values:

R1 = 430K
R2 = 630K
C = 1000uf

T1= about 300 sec
T2 = about 180 sec

Total = about 8 mins (because of component tolerances, it is difficult
to obtain precisian with long durations)

Use single transistor to invert logic levels for T1 & T2

A good 555 tutorial may be found at

http://www.uoguelph.ca/~antoon/gadgets/555/555.html


Hmmmm,

Maybe this, together with one or more Johnson counters (4017) so that a
higher frequency cap can be used? Also, maybe still higher values of
R1 and R2 could be used (4.3 and 6.3 MOhm) with a 100 uF cap?
Click to expand...
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How would you propose to arrange for the 38% duty cycle with a 4017?

--
John Fields
 
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