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DOE told me hybrid technology was expensive because the generators cost
about
$5,000.00.
Copper wire costs < $1/lb. WHAT IS MAKING THESE ALTERNATORS SO EXPENSIVE?
Bret Cahill
They be the ones.Message-id: <Hdzhb.69726$lp5.3481690@phobos.telenet-ops.be> writes:
What do you mean by hybrid? Are you are refering to a hybrid
electric/regular gas car?
.. . .If the electricity is generated by a hydrogen fuel cell then thats probably
the "generator" they are refering to.
Fuel cells use a lot of copper wire?Copper wire costs < $1/lb.
cost a little to make but they cost a lot to design. Fuel cells aren't usedCopper wire costs < $1/lb.
Fuel cells use a lot of copper wire?
No. They use much more exotic materials than copper. In theory they only
.. . .Message-id: <wHRhb.71270$dg5.3317898@phobos.telenet-ops.be> writes:
Not such a big problem. Fleet and farmThe problem is they use Hydrogen. Nobody will buy a car that runs on
Hydrogen until they can fill it up easily, and no gas station owner will
invest in Hydrogen storage tanks until there are lots of Hydrogen powered
cars on the road. So we are stuck. The only people who can use Hydrogen are
delivery lorries and busses that have a central base they can return to in
order to fill up.
The problem is nuclear power. The power plants got fuel from Hanford,"BretCahill" <bretcahill@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031011005540.07836.00000135@mb-m16.aol.com...
Copper wire costs < $1/lb.
Fuel cells use a lot of copper wire?
No. They use much more exotic materials than copper. In theory they only
cost a little to make but they cost a lot to design. Fuel cells aren't used
in large quantities yet which means to fund that research the cost of each
cell must be high.
This article explains how they work...
http://science.howstuffworks.com/fuel-cell1.htm
The problem is they use Hydrogen. Nobody will buy a car that runs on
Hydrogen until they can fill it up easily, and no gas station owner will
invest in Hydrogen storage tanks until there are lots of Hydrogen powered
cars on the road. So we are stuck. The only people who can use Hydrogen are
delivery lorries and busses that have a central base they can return to in
order to fill up. One day when oil is in short supply and it becomes very
expensive something will change. Either governments will put in some initial
investment or perhaps a car manufacturer will decide to do a deal with an
oil company that owns lots of gas stations, who knows. Perhaps there will
even be a war and some countries that don't have oil won't be able to buy it
anymore from the countries that do? Anyway whatever happens way we need
something to happen to make the change over worth doing.
The US government is already looking at building more nuclear power plants
because one way to make hydrogen is to use electricity from Nuclear power to
make it from water....
http://www.mpr.com/pubs/profile/pf9_hydrogen.html
Although this approach isn't popular with everyone...
http://www.nirs.org/factsheets/Hydrogenproductionbynuclearpower.htm
--Colin
It's already built; it's called Hanford. That's where there's"CWatters" <colin.watters@pandora.be> in
Message-id: <wHRhb.71270$dg5.3317898@phobos.telenet-ops.be> writes:
. . .
The problem is they use Hydrogen. Nobody will buy a car that runs on
Hydrogen until they can fill it up easily, and no gas station owner will
invest in Hydrogen storage tanks until there are lots of Hydrogen powered
cars on the road. So we are stuck. The only people who can use Hydrogen are
delivery lorries and busses that have a central base they can return to in
order to fill up.
Not such a big problem. Fleet and farm
vehicles can help get H2 started. That's
how diesel became available in the U.S.
Also, BMW has a two fuel vehicle. You
can use H2 when possible, gas when
necessary.
The real problem is getting the H2.
I understand the U. S. DoE is building a
huge nuke waste facility in Washington.
Bret Cahill
Maybe the cost of development? After all, if it's run by software, itDOE told me hybrid technology was expensive because the generators cost about
$5,000.00.
Copper wire costs < $1/lb. WHAT IS MAKING THESE ALTERNATORS SO EXPENSIVE?
Bret Cahill